Ryan Newman Has Made It

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For all of the crap I give NASCAR, one thing I will praise them for is all they have done for driver safety since we lost Dale... Many of those safety improvements probably helped save Newman's life..

In addition, the rapid response of the AMR Safety Team is also what did it. They were there basically as soon as Newman's car came to rest...Moving to a traveling safety team was also a great decision as we saw
 
Hopefully he can make a full recovery from whatever his injuries might be.
 
DewChaser988 said:
For all of the crap I give NASCAR, one thing I will praise them for is all they have done for driver safety since we lost Dale... Many of those safety improvements probably helped save Newman's life..

In addition, the rapid response of the AMR Safety Team is also what did it. They were there basically as soon as Newman's car came to rest...Moving to a traveling safety team was also a great decision as we saw
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Dale would’ve likely survived had he been wearing a HANS device.
Kudos to NASCAR for implementing the mandate.
 
I bet that car will be at the R&D center for a long time getting every bar, bolt, weld scrutinized.

IMO Ryan being short helps him here, giving the roof several inches to collapse that wouldn't otherwise be there (See: Back when Michael Waltrip somehow shoehorned in). I'm sure he has some cracked/broken ribs and left arm from the door bars intruding.

My question: Being a mechanical engineer, will Ryan also scrutinize the car himself?
 
Can you really scrutinize anything? The nose of a racecar came through the drivers side window at 200mph... not really sure what you could do to prevent that?

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I glad Ryan is going to survive. I hope and pray he doesn't have a head injury or paralysis. I hope he can at least have a normal life for his girls.

I wouldn't pat Nascar to much on the back. I think the initial reaction of the safety crew tonight was terrible. Just watch the replay it took forever for them to get there. And once there they had to reach into the bed of the truck to get the fire extinguisher. One of the first two safety workers at the car never got their extinguisher working. The TV camera zoomed into the fuel leaking and the fire at the rear of the car. Maybe it is time for the fire crew to come out of the trucks with extinguishers in hand.
But in my opinion. Nascar needs to take a lesson from Indy car on how quick safety teams respond.
 
nitetrain said:
I glad Ryan is going to survive. I hope and pray he doesn't have a head injury or paralysis. I hope he can at least have a normal life for his girls.

I wouldn't pat Nascar to much on the back. I think the initial reaction of the safety crew tonight was terrible. Just watch the replay it took forever for them to get there. And once there they had to reach into the bed of the truck to get the fire extinguisher. One of the first two safety workers at the car never got their extinguisher working. The TV camera zoomed into the fuel leaking and the fire at the rear of the car. Maybe it is time for the fire crew to come out of the trucks with extinguishers in hand.
But in my opinion. Nascar needs to take a lesson from Indy car on how quick safety teams respond.
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Not wrong. Indycar and NHRA have safety on point. NASCAR is lagging behind.

NHRA has a pressurized foam fire tank on the trucks.
 
Magnethead said:
I bet that car will be at the R&D center for a long time getting every bar, bolt, weld scrutinized.

IMO Ryan being short helps him here, giving the roof several inches to collapse that wouldn't otherwise be there (See: Back when Michael Waltrip somehow shoehorned in). I'm sure he has some cracked/broken ribs and left arm from the door bars intruding.

My question: Being a mechanical engineer, will Ryan also scrutinize the car himself?
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They will measure the bending stresses on that particular type of steel and be able to determine the force involved that bent it. They will test the steel to see if it was what it was supposed to be using a hardness scale, find it's bending moment to see if that is on spec, on and on and it takes some pretty sophisticated measuring machinery. He might view the results of the tests, I sure would be interested. The seat is going to get some love too I bet. I hear they are using carbon fiber. I have always wondered how brittle that stuff is, they are always talking about how strong it is, but I see shards flying all over the place in the cars that use it extensively when they wreck.
 
I finished watching the race an hour ago and I'm still shaky over that wreck now knowing Newman is alive. The way all the drivers and reporters were acting had me thinking the worst. Let's just hope NASCAR doesn't overreact to plate racing...this type of wreck can happen anywhere with speeds nearing 200 mph. It was just plain ol' bad luck
 
Magnethead said:
Not wrong. Indycar and NHRA have safety on point. NASCAR is lagging behind.

NHRA has a pressurized foam fire tank on the trucks.
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When they pulled up to Ryan's car I was yelling there is fuel running out under the car, hurry up there is fuel running out. I guess I thought they could hear me.:)
 
harkin said:
I haven’t gone from feeling so bad to feeling so good so fast in I can’t remember.

I hoped but I wasn’t very hopeful the longer it took, if that makes sense.
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yeah I had thoughts that they were notifying next of kin and all of that before they made an announcement, but on the other hand, I knew Nascar uses the AMR safety teams the best in the world and they are very thorough .Probably why I got a headache
 
When I got up this morning I immediately checked this site hoping for the best but honestly expecting the worst.
I am more than relieved now, I hope Newman will be able to recover.
Mike Joy and Jeff Gordon surely also thought they just saw someone get killed when they ended the broadcast
 
Biggreen695 said:
Can you really scrutinize anything? The nose of a racecar came through the drivers side window at 200mph... not really sure what you could do to prevent that?

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Maybe nothing, but they can't tell unless they study it. They'll be looking at that fuel cell for a while too, to see why it ruptured and what might be done.
 
donthaveanickname said:
Mike Joy and Jeff Gordon surely also thought they just saw someone get killed when they ended the broadcast
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As did Blaney. I've never seen such white caucasians in my life, as if they had all just seen the most terrifying ghost ever
 
My wife and I were at Homestead when Mike (Dancing Shoes) McLaughlin came off turn 4 during qualifying and backed it into the fence (a lot of that in the old configuration).
We felt the thump and the heat from when the car immediately caught fire, it was nauseating waiting for Mike to get out of the car. Couldn't have been a worse scenario. Car ended up facing the wall, the fuel cell was poring fuel out directly behind the car down the track, the wind was blowing hard that day directly over his car from the rear and whoomp up it went in an instant. Mike finally, after what seemed like forever, bailed out of the flames onto the track. He had not put his gloves on for the qualifying, burned him really bad.
I was at the Sebring 12 hours in the late 60's, a GT-40 coming through the S turns missed his mark went off track and hit a telephone pole dead center, it ruptured the canvas fuel bag located under the hood in the front of the car spreading fuel all over and in the car and instantly went up in flame, I watched that driver sit there and die from the flame, most horrible thing I have ever seen at a race. I have never been back to that race since then.

I was very scared for Ryan last night when I saw the fuel leaking and the flame that close to the leaking fuel, The Lord was with him at that time.
 
Nitro Dude said:
When they pulled up to Ryan's car I was yelling there is fuel running out under the car, hurry up there is fuel running out
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Had visions of Fireball Roberts crash when the keystone cops slowly arrived at Newman's car and the camera was showing the gas running out just a few feet from the fire.
 
Newman's crash reminded me of a pro stock crash at the Texas Motorplex in 2005. These type of crashes show just how important all of the safety rules are needed to allow these drivers to survive these types of crashes. I will tell you before you watch this video that both drivers survived.
 
Biggreen695 said:
Can you really scrutinize anything? The nose of a racecar came through the drivers side window at 200mph... not really sure what you could do to prevent that?

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It isn't about prevention, those things are going to happen on any track anywhere. What is important is to be well prepared for them. What they learned from Kyle's head on crash into the wall led to more engineering (strengthening)in the foot well area for example.They were able to compute the speed and the force and analyze the damage and see what failed. Wholesale changes to the front area of the car mostly around the foot well area came out of that crash. The whole process is called destructive testing. They will be able to strengthen, or change the bracing, or if the damage wasn't that extensive do nothing.
 
what about the bottoms of these cars. What kind of structure is there in the floor area? I know its a rare place to take a hard hit. but it would seem the floor of the car might be one of the weakest points.
 
hidesert cowboy said:
what about the bottoms of these cars. What kind of structure is there in the floor area? I know its a rare place to take a hard hit. but it would seem the floor of the car might be one of the weakest points.
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The driver is pretty much encased in a roll cage, front back, top, side and bottom. other parts of the car are designed to crush so they can spread the period out when there is a crash.
 
It's always amazed me about the speeds guys were racing at say, 50 years ago before most of the kind of safety modifications of the cars today existed. And that goes for series other than NASCAR, such as Indycar.

Also, not that long ago (2013) I saw a Lamborghini promotional race on a runway at Miami Intl. Airport that had been temporarily closed for the race. The objective was to show that street versions of the car could achieve speeds of 200 mph or greater.

The cars were street cars and were all open top. There were no modifications of any type (such as roll bars) to the cars that I could tell. The drivers all wore street clothes and the only safety equipment some drivers wore was a helmet (not all of them did). If I recall correctly, some of the cars even had passengers.

Granted, they were going only in a straight line but I still thought the whole thing was nuts.

Here is a clip of that event:

 
I know more information will come out in the days to come but I’m curious as to what are Newman’s injuries.
The top side of the cage above the window clearly breached the driver area.
That was a helluva sequence after the car came off the wall.
I know NASCAR’s R&D is going to spend a lot of time going over this car.
 
So far all we know about his condition has come from the team, nothing from the docs or hospital. Not wanting to think bad thoughts but that is somewhat troubling to me.
 
Bobw said:
So far all we know about his condition has come from the team, nothing from the docs or hospital. Not wanting to think bad thoughts but that is somewhat troubling to me.
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Docs and hospital aren’t at liberty to publicly discuss patient medical issues.
The fact that he’s awake and with family is awesome.
I wish more information was available for us fans.
 
Nitro Dude said:
Newman's crash reminded me of a pro stock crash at the Texas Motorplex in 2005. These type of crashes show just how important all of the safety rules are needed to allow these drivers to survive these types of crashes. I will tell you before you watch this video that both drivers survived.
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Yes several people thought the same thing.

Dug this up last night too. Ryan might have saved his own life. Turns out, he did scrutinize his own cars after the 2003 and 2009 crashes, and told NASCAR to require extra bars in the windshield and ****pit.

https://www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/mcg-exclusive-2013-nascar-roll-cage/
 
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