Second Las Vegas Cup race

R Clarence said:
Didn't NASCAR drop the Japan show due to lack of interest?
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Probably. That seems like a bad choice of a country for it IMO.
Japan has a very small amount of hardcore motorsport fans.
They have 1 really big national series, which has only 7 races in Japan per year... They get a lot of people at the races, but thats a pretty small season.
They dont have many causal race fans there. Although having Toyota in the series back then would have helped I think...
NASCAR has a lot of fans in Europe and Australia and would do much better there IMO
 
Really sucks to see the Kentucky standalone get moved to Vegas. I don't understand why SMI doesn't bring the Xfinity or Truck Series to Sonoma in June with Cup or for a fall race.
 
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Skoalbandit33 said:
The hottest races I ever have been a part of were Sunday afternoons at Darlington for the original Southern 500. I do my best to stay properly hydrated but I took extra measures prior to heading down to SC on Labor Day.
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That's the primary reason I thought moving the race from Mom's Day in May back to Labor Day was a down-right stupid idea, tradition be damned.
 
RacerrecaR said:
...(if a deal can be worked out with the NFL to not broadcast a game) ...
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Okay, sit down, put your head between your knees, and place this ice pack across the back of your neck. I've called 911 and the paramedics should be here momentarily.
<I don't think he's gonna make it...>


Dude, PRESIDENTS schedule around MNF.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
I think Vegas as the finale would be a disaster for TV. Because of the current contract, you'd have to start the race at like 11am local time. If you want a primetime finish, you pretty much guarantee the race will be on cable. And Saturday night races are a proven disaster for TV ratings -- they just don't draw which is why NASCAR's moving more and more races back to Sunday afternoons.

They should keep the finale in Homestead.
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NASCAR should really have the season finale rotate to different venues each year. The current system rewards someone who is REALLY good at one track.
 
The Nature Boy said:
NASCAR should really have the season finale rotate to different venues each year. The current system rewards someone who is REALLY good at one track.
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They should rotate the whole Chase schedule every year. Use a set sequence and the scheduled could be published a couple of years in advance; plenty of time for tracks, fans, and all others concerned to make plans. Sure, some northern tracks would present a problem, but maybe rotate the first five around, with a second rotation for the last five.

Chase finale from M'ville :D <-- note the tiny brown stains on the ****-eatin' grin.
 
I'd like to see the Championship Round rotate between California, Las Vegas, Phoenix, and Homestead-Miami.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
They should rotate the whole Chase schedule every year. Use a set sequence and the scheduled could be published a couple of years in advance; plenty of time for tracks, fans, and all others concerned to make plans. Sure, some northern tracks would present a problem, but maybe rotate the first five around, with a second rotation for the last five.

Chase finale from M'ville :D <-- note the tiny brown stains on the ****-eatin' grin.
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The funny thing is the football is played outdoors in November with nary a problem. I'm sure that people could sit outside in Charlotte or Bristol or Martinsville in November.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
It's not the people in the stands, it's the snow on the track.
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I'd pay to see that!

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A November show in balmy Loudon would be a great idea. Watch the stands fill with casual as well as hard core fans.

Do it on a Sunday when the World Champion New England Patriots have a home game.
 
The Nature Boy said:
NASCAR should really have the season finale rotate to different venues each year. The current system rewards someone who is REALLY good at one track.
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Homestead is a neutral track though. It's like no other track on the circuit and there isn't a single race there until the finale.
 
Simple Fan said:
Yeah have no interest in international races. I'd say Canada will get a race if they ever get that track Jeff Gordon is helping design up there. Plenty of tracks in the US I like to see NASCAR race on though like Pikes Peak, Portland International, Road America, Memphis, Gatway, or even Milwaukee.
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Only a complete fool or a government entity would build a track capable of holding a cup event now. I don't see the good citizens of Ontario spending a nickel of tax dollars to build a new track or refurbish Mosport.
 
The Nature Boy said:
The funny thing is the football is played outdoors in November with nary a problem. I'm sure that people could sit outside in Charlotte or Bristol or Martinsville in November.
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You would think so but for some reason it seems like a lot of the people that attend Nascar races think 50 degrees is cold.
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
Only a complete fool or a government entity would build a track capable of holding a cup event now. I don't see the good citizens of Ontario spending a nickel of tax dollars to build a new track or refurbish Mosport.
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Refurbish Mosport? It's already a very good track that would bring a decent amount of fans. This Ontario track has been trying to build for 10 years so I'm considering it not happening.
 
The Nature Boy said:
The funny thing is the football is played outdoors in November with nary a problem. I'm sure that people could sit outside in Charlotte or Bristol or Martinsville in November.
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Yeh ....what happens when there is a cold snap, I don't know about you but sitting in 40 degree weather with 20mph winds watching a race for 3-4 hours isn't my idea of fun.
 
Loudon has been a spiritual epicenter of New England motorsports for over half a century. From my racing days, more than a little blood, skin, sweat, and a few tears have seeped into the Loudon asphalt. My first race was there. My first crash too. And my first win, although there were not so many wins for me. I used to pitch a small tent in the pits to save motel money. There was this diner nearby with awesome homemade pies...

Despite my nostalgia, moving this poorly supported race to Las Vegas is a Nascar upgrade IMO. However, it's important to also change up Charlotte (or Kansas or Chicago) to avoid six 1.5ers in the playoffs.

I hope that Loudon can marshal all its support behind it's remaining date and make it a great event. SMI should twist arms locally to be permitted a night race in July IMO.
 
toledo47 said:
Plenty of other race series go international every year. F1, Indycar, WEC, WTCC, Australia's Supercars, Super GT, etc...
Even NASCAR made the 2 trips to Japan before. Wouldn't be a difficult thing for them to do at all.
I'm sure they would get a great crowd in Europe or Australia, at least the first few times. After a while and the hype has died down, who knows..
If NASCAR's offseason was longer, would be pretty cool to see them do a race overseas in December or January...
But since the off season is nearly non-existent, an international race seems like it would be pretty tough on teams...
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Slow down there , all those series that have travel to different countrys are not doing 39 races a year, so they have the time in between to get their stuff to different countrys that you can not drive too. I know the travel can be a mix of air and ship, but it still takes time.

NASCAR made three trips to Japan,Suzuka 1996/97 and Twin Ring Motegi in 1998 for the last.

The Japan Super GT series has one race out of their 8 race schedule that is not in Japan, and there is a two month time span before that race/one before the next race. The current Indy car Schedule goes to Toronto, that is not same as going from American to Japan. WTCC has about a month break in between races that require travel to another continent.
 
BobbyFord said:
What would be the expense to ship loaded haulers internationally?
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I am sure it is.

Fun fact, when NASCAR went to Japan, they sent everything over in shipping containers , one reason being is the season was still under way when they had to have their race cars/equipment on the ship and headed to Japan , I think it was like a two month lead time( it was mentioned in the race broadcast)
 
toledo47 said:
Probably. That seems like a bad choice of a country for it IMO.
Japan has a very small amount of hardcore motorsport fans.
They have 1 really big national series, which has only 7 races in Japan per year... They get a lot of people at the races, but thats a pretty small season.
They dont have many causal race fans there. Although having Toyota in the series back then would have helped I think...
NASCAR has a lot of fans in Europe and Australia and would do much better there IMO
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Are you kidding, the Japanese LOVED NASCAR when they were there, they ate it up like candy, I think Japan embraces as a whole motorsports better than we do here in the USA, I think they care for it more then we do, but I am not 100% certain, but I can ask some of my Japanese friends that live in Japan if I need to
 
AuzGrams said:
Refurbish Mosport? It's already a very good track that would bring a decent amount of fans. This Ontario track has been trying to build for 10 years so I'm considering it not happening.
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I should have said bring the track into compliance with cup requirements.
 
LewTheShoe said:
Loudon has been a spiritual epicenter of New England motorsports for over half a century. From my racing days, more than a little blood, skin, sweat, and a few tears have seeped into the Loudon asphalt. My first race was there. My first crash too. And my first win, although there were not so many wins for me. I used to pitch a small tent in the pits to save motel money. There was this diner nearby with awesome homemade pies...

Despite my nostalgia, moving this poorly supported race to Las Vegas is a Nascar upgrade IMO. However, it's important to also change up Charlotte (or Kansas or Chicago) to avoid six 1.5ers in the playoffs.

I hope that Loudon can marshal all its support behind it's remaining date and make it a great event. SMI should twist arms locally to be permitted a night race in July IMO.
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I really don't see why Loudon would have an issue getting a night race. It isn't really located near anything so it's not like anything would be disturbed.

I really wish that the Trucks or Xfinity would return to Oxford Plains Speedway. That'd be a hell of a race.
 
Sad to see this. NHIS was one of the more interesting tracks on the circuit imo. A good track to test the driver, car and crew. It's been a track that's been on my bucket list for some time.

The ONLY somewhat "saving grace" is NHIS probably shouldn't have had a second race to begin with. The fact it came at the expense of North Wilkesboro will always bug me.
 
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