Silly Season 2020

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by StandOnIt, Apr 4, 2019.

  1. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    I think it depends a lot on what sponsors are likely to sign long term for better coin.
     
  2. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    Peeved for the same reason that Bell is like "Nah, I'm cool with waiting another year" in the hope they come to their damn senses with the formula.
     
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  3. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    Would have loved to read the 2017 version of this post where Kenseth is staying as long as he pleases and Suarez is good for a decade minimum and there's room for the whole pipeline over at FRR.

    I'm just playing. ;)
     
  4. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    40+ posts over one guy saying he expects to stay in the same seat. :rolleyes:
     
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  5. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    It’s silly season. Lmao, I myself thought it’s a little early for this but then you get wondering....the Preacher wouldn’t lead Denny to the slaughter house....would he???
     
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  6. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    and you win the lottery. Bets on something is going to happen in Yoder world. Too many Chiefs and not enough horses
     
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  7. Revman

    Revman Stop asking me about the package!

    It will be fine, but the narrative is sure fun for now, isn't it?
     
  8. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Byron fine or Larson fine? :p Personally, I think the one thing that is keeping Bell under the Yota umbrella is the midget and dirt sprint car program. It might keep him in a preacher Xfinity car next year. Unless?
     
  9. Revman

    Revman Stop asking me about the package!

    Naw, the bigger shock was Carl Edwards bailing. Easy to assume that the whole passing out his business card thing was because he had desire. He had desire, but that was more about overalls, a plaid shirt, and God's country.....I guess that's what he is doing....
     
  10. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    I think everybody in this thread totally forgot about XCI Racing 81 car is attempting 2 Cup races with Jeffrey Earnhardt with JGR support & finished top 10 at Texas.
     
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  11. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Sometimes you get what you really did desire, only to find it wasn't what you thought it would be.
     
  12. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner Contributor

    FS1 pre-race coverage just unloaded on Denny that he might get run-off from JGR after this season.

    One of his comebacks was that he'll be "on the couch still getting paid" if that's the case. :D
     
  13. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    could the Jones boy be family?

     
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  14. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

  15. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    I would have asked what are the long term plans for Denny???
     
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  16. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    ^ I wonder what is going through Kyles head listening to that.
     
  17. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Kyle will be just fine until one day the Preacher looks at him with a gleam in his eye. :D:rolleyes:. Now the Jones Boy on the other hand as the season wears on the press will be ruthless because they smell a story. I wouldn't think Kyle or any of them will be jumping for joy if Bell gets a cup ride. Bell has shown that he can wheel a car.
     
  18. Johali

    Johali Team Owner Contributor

    It's simple, he was thinking "why is that old jackass talking about anybody but me".
     
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  19. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    Yup. He never truck me as a cunning driver who could get the most out of a poor car.
    I don't think JGR made any improvement dumping the Mexican.
    Kyle's brand is about #1 in Nascar now, negotiating new contracts could get very expensive very soon and if his compensation makes a big jump, Bell's will also.
    Personally I think Bell should consider being #1 at another top team and that could very well be HMS.
     
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  20. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Kyle has already signed, Truex and Hamlin also if you can believe what Denny said. Eric Jones isn't signed, his contract is up at the end of the season.
     
  21. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Kyle's face looks like the final exam for a taxidermy-by-mail school.
     
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  22. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Nascar turned down the 20 million Monster was paying. Could it be because they were tired of getting screwed around by Monster?
     
  23. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    They just figure they will make more money under the new model and because of that want to get it up and running ASAP. $20M from one partner for one more year or starting getting $20M from multiple partners.

     
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  24. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    Monster wanted out and agreed to stay on one year. Nascar cannot get a deal like it used to have with Sprint so it is going with some fuzzy plan that may or may not come to fruition.
     
  25. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    I would be surprised if this plan pans out. I am definitely from Missouri on this initiative.
     
  26. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    To be replaced by Bell??
    Maybe Jones will go be a partner in the second tear team..................... Again.
     
  27. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    you have your facts if ya can call them that wrong..you are a year off. That was last year. o_O
     
  28. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    I like them trying this system, its been proven to work. Lets just hope it will pan out for them because this could be something great for sport. Its worked previously with other sports, but lets see if it can work for NASCAR.
     
  29. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    Monster did Nascar a solid by hanging around and Nascar would have kept them if they would have signed for longer.
     
  30. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    I agree as I want to see if it works for Nascar. I am skeptical but anything is possible.
     
  31. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    I don't guess you can read. Take your beer goggles off.

    .@MonsterEnergy's offer signals that the company remains satisfied with the @NASCAR title sponsorship, which is worth around $20M annually. Monster is now in talks about becoming a lower-level official partner in the new three-tier model, most likely as a second-tier partner.
     
  32. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    hot off the press, nothing concrete just a little debate and what not to break up the monotony around here. Wouldnt be surprised if HMS got rid of Alex, I think it was done as a favor to Jr to get that dude in the car he really didnt show me a whole lot to merit the ride. I think hes a good driver but maybe a reach at Hendrick when they were also going to put Byron in the 24 at the same time. I would have maybe went with a veteran driver/winner for the 88 initially and then decided between Bowman/Byron for the 24. It will be interesting to see who they get to replace Bowman if they go that route, cant help but think Denny Hamlin would be a candidate and maybe just maybe Kurt Busch. But if I was Rick and Jeff I'd be recruiting Kyle Larson 24/7 to come to HMS.
     
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  33. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    IMO Bell knows he is coming to cup and he will get offers, probably already is. All Toyota has at this point are 4 cars and a leftover. Somebody will have to get the knife or a brand new unproven team with big promises opening, compared to an established well run top level team if there are any seats open? He is in a good position is about all I know for sure.
     
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  34. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    My thinking is if Bell has a solid deal from someone and is intent on going to Cup and The Preacher has to lead someone to the slaughter house to keep Bell, itd have to be Denny right? Maybe Erik Jones? Who is more family than the other?
     
  35. hidesert cowboy

    hidesert cowboy Team Owner

    love the fact how everyone seems to be thinking Bell needs to be elevated RIGHT NOW to cup. The real people in the sport know that winning in a gibbs NXS car is not that huge of a deal, its just not. please realize this. There is a huge equipment disparity in that series right now. Gibbs and the people in the know, understand that the hauler driver could win in his car. So calm down and quit hyperventilating that eric jones needs to be fired. put eric in Bell's car and he would win at the same rate as bell is winning right now. So really what is the point of making a driver change? I think JGR knows this already and that is why Eric is looking at a contract extension. people forget that denny hasn't set the world on fire either the last couple years. The 18 has been the one winning all the races in cup while the rest of their cars don't run all that great most of the time. I can't stand denny frankly, but if I wanted to win races I wouldn't fire the guy for some kid that is winning in a lower series with a car that the hauler driver could win in.

    the thing that could hurt eric is he isn't as marketable as Bell is, to me bell seems more sharp, clean cut and a better sell to sponsors. We can't say for sure if he is really actually better or not. but money does drive decisions.
     
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  36. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    good chance for blood letting, walking the plank, or disinheritance from the family. Worse yet, be exiled to Leavine family racing
     
  37. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    so you're saying at age 24 Bell isnt ready for Cup right now? I'd put him in a Cup car right now if I could. and I wasnt saying Erik Jones should be fired, I'd hire him in a second too if I had a Cup car, hes a good driver future champion. I hope Erik keeps his ride.
     
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  38. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    Before everybody writes off Bowman, did you all see the race yesterday? 2nd place from the back with a team that STILL isn't good as it should be. How about the week before? Lest we already forget that Alex was a couple of bad luck finishes away from advancing to the third round of the playoffs last year.
    As far as Hamlin or Busch at HMS, I wouldn't be any more shocked if I woke up with my head sewed to the floor if either of those guys ends up in a HMS car. Even a reformed Kurt Busch isn't really HMS material. Hamlin most certainly is not. Not enough of a "team player" for one thing.
     
  39. 2 Sweet

    2 Sweet Legend

    Agreed.

    The only way Bowman loses that ride is if he's replaced by Larson, IMO.
     
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  40. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    Saying I wouldn't be surprised that Bowman wouldnt be in the 88 in 2020 is not the same as me saying I hope he gets axed. I hope he doesnt. I would say that as an HMS fan like I am, I was scratching my head when Rick went with both Willy B and Bowman at the same time. If I had my way I think I'd launch Ives and see what another crew chief could do before I launched Alex. I did say he didnt show me much before he got the 88 but I dont think he's a bad race car driver. I think hes a good driver that is suffering from Chevy, Ives and HMS being behind the curve.
     
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