See the discussions on where they'd get a charter from. Nobody's ruled it out.
And of course Hamlin recently tweeted that Kurt can have the job as long as he wants it. We are in the Hamlin cluster puck as far as I am concerned.
Absolutely nothing wrong with hating bubba as long as his skin color isn't the reason for the hate.
There are other investors in 23X1?
I think that's completely possible. Sign him now and take 18 months to figure it out. I think it's a deal where you sign talent when its available, then figure out how to utilize it.
I don't call that a conspiracy bud, I call that business.
I thought Denny in his recent episode on the DJR talked of having other partners besides MJ. I am trying to find it with the quick free time here. They talked about building a bigger shop and what not, and having to pause to see how things go with "NASCAR and our 23XI partners" or along those lines.
Kevin Harvick said on Dale Jr's podcast that drivers arnt making what they used to make and that was cause of a beef between him and Jr because Harvick was up for a renegotiation with SHR..... and Jr said in his last year that NASCAR was rightsizing. The clip is here:
Are you 100% sure MJ is using 100% of his own money, I'd like to research more. The way Denny framed it in his interview, it didnt sound like sponsor partners to me, he said he had to talk over the building with them financially and see how things go with the new TV deal.
so if I go on RCR, RFR or HMS.com I can find every equity partner they have?
I think they would be a step up from Petty GMS, Erik Jones is a good option to pursue. Lots of others seem to be reaches or are affiliated with other teams/OEMs already. That would be a hell of an accomplishment, to drive both the 43 and 3.
Eh, Tyler became unaffiliated with Chevy quick enough, and It's what brand is Hemric driving this week. I think a certain brand really lock drivers in but the other two don't seem to as much
should I google it? I have to say I really feel like this is taking a turn to you talking down to me, I mean you can just tell me flat out I am wrong.
Jones would be a good fit at RCR, but here me out if Creed and Hill are not ready for that move...
When have I ever played a victim interacting with you? It doesnt take much? What? Thats some BS. You talk down to people, other people are okay with it. I dont appreciate it much.
the 43 doesn't have speed, if it did Jones would be doing better
25 minutes ago according to the time stamp.
so this is you engaging in a friendly conversation with me?
Yeah, I thought Petty partnering with GMS would help and it has a bit. Jones has two top 5's that he didn't have last year, They are faster it looks like but they have a ways to go
Plenty of drivers have had sponsors because they were perceived to appeal to specific demographics. In my opinion it’s better than having the family business sign the checks.
Right now the #43 is a way station, not a destination.
No, it isn’t. You accused me of talking down to you. I went back and re-read all of our discourse. I know what I was thinking when I made those posts. None of them were intended to impune you or your remarks.
Fair enough, I'll be honest in my time here I've never had a good read with you, I'm sure its because we are on an internet forum and not talking face to face or hearing your voice and I'll also say that has way more to do with me than you. I have had some fiery chats with you in the past up here and one or two in the podium, I always felt you came off as pretentious. I'm sure I didnt come off well either, and I really try hard to get along with everyone here. I probably should stay off of here when Iam frustrated at work, as it leads to misjudgments on my end. I was looking at MJ's involvement with 23XI through a different way in that the articles I have read about him when he invested in those restaurants, the motorcycle team and when he bought the Hornets, I had thought he had investors with him that invested in his name and brand, while yes he was the owner of those other teams he used very little of his own money. Now I cant find research now, as I dont have time but I know I have read that. I was just applying that train of thought to his involvement and ownership of his current race team. Could totally be wrong, and I just might be...but that is how I interpreted it.
and when I say interpret, I thought that was what Denny was talking about on Jr's Download when he referred to "Partners"
I don't see how it matters at all, but I'm pretty sure MJ and DH are *not* the only equity shareholders of 23XI. Recently I read an article somewhere that mentioned a senior executive who is involved with the Charlotte Hornets IIRC, and he was referred to as an equity owner in 23XI, alongside MJ and DH. It wouldn't surprise me if there are others as well.
Of course not.
Wally is the GOAT color commentator for NASCAR.
