Sloppy Chase, Sloppy racing.

ChexOrWrex said:
Oooooo the internet warrior wants me to pm him. Not until you figure out to pull up the OS calculator. :D


Kyle has 1 win this season in the series that he deserves to race in. Ice up son.


Championship hopes = dashed & hasnt been the same since. So no, Ill keep my perky little ass right here. Of course he doesnt care about kahne, he wipes him out all the time. If he cant drive around him he will drive right through him. Or is it driving "through the tight"?? Bowyer's season had been completely snake bitten. From mechanical failures to being in the wrong place @ the wrong time. It hasnt been about speed.
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Hasn't been about speed? You are more polly anna than me. Geez. I'm jealous.
 
Reck said:
Man I forgot to put a disclaimer saying the following: "flaming wars not encouraged." :D

I was just feeling tick off about this lame format and reformatting of the points is all.
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if you are looking thru your rose colored Gordon goggles it has to be a let down from last week, didn't hear much complaining then, just a wank about the "mediocre"small teams that shouldn't be in it to begin with. It isn't looking real great for Gordo right now, but he is in better shape than four others. A couple more races into this round and you will have more company. As we all know misery loves company. Fan is short for fanatic and there is plenty of that around here.
 
Kyle18fan said:
You mentioned Bowyer, I have no idea why but at least you know why karma bit him too. Is there anything else I can help you with or can your buddy "steponit" handle your questions :XXROFL:
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Got all three JGR cars still in the second round with only two wins between all three of em for the whole season and you are acting like a hysterical nit wit for a third place finish? give it a rest man, it is hard to take you serious. Act like you have been here before, I know you haven't, but fake it until you make it ok?
 
StandOnIt said:
if you are looking thru your rose colored Gordon goggles it has to be a let down from last week, didn't hear much complaining then, just a wank about the "mediocre"small teams that shouldn't be in it to begin with. It isn't looking real great for Gordo right now, but he is in better shape than four others. A couple more races into this round and you will have more company. As we all know misery loves company. Fan is short for fanatic and there is plenty of that around here.
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No one is talking about Gordon or any other drivers here. Certainly not me so in the words of the great Andy Marquis, get out of my face.

If you have nothing to add here other than your nonsense, hit the x on your upper right corner.
 
StandOnIt said:
Got all three JGR cars still in the second round with only two wins between all three of em for the whole season and you are acting like a hysterical nit wit for a third place finish? give it a rest man, it is hard to take you serious. Act like you have been here before, I know you haven't, but fake it until you make it ok?
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Back to your normal self I see, I am glad I was worried about you.
If you knew anything about Kyle Busch you would know a third at Kansas is big stuff
 
i still don't know by points how 5th pace on is to be determined...i get 1st thru 4th.....after that :idunno:
 
a first is big stuff in the first race, you get the immunity idol. o_O This sheet is designed to keep us interested and give the media a drama story. It is what it is love it or hate it, you have to accept it..don't have to like it though.
 
pudge said:
i still don't know by points how 5th pace on is to be determined...i get 1st thru 4th.....after that :idunno:
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There are two versions from different media outlets. Drivers out of the chase are saying they can get up to 5th..don't really think any of them will, but what the hay, we all dream. Other version is that when eliminated, Drivers will get some kind of made up Brian points. like 2000 or so. That would make the worst a chaser could get it 16 and the best non chaser 17..I'm getting a headache.
 
pudge said:
i still don't know by points how 5th pace on is to be determined...i get 1st thru 4th.....after that :idunno:
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It's quite simple actually...
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Reck said:
This new chase format has made teams operate under very unnecesary pressure of trying to make a cut only for their great efforts to be undone in the next race since you really cant have a bad race if you dont win that particular race within the round.

Fact checks:

In 4 races a total of 11 on track incidents involving chasers due to a wreck, a failure of some kind or bad luck has occured. Not including pit mishaps. This is a pretty alarming number of incidents given that, these guys are suppose to meet the challenge to compete and yet you can count on half of them to have some sort of issue during the race.

To me, it's all because of pressure. Unnecesary pressure being mounted on these drivers/crews and teams.

Making the chase this way almost makes it not worth the headache. I think you should be able to have fun while also running for a championship. It should never be so tense that you can have a meltdown when your car is making a sound its not suppose to be making.

Look back to last week at Allmendinger and this week's at Harvick. Specially the latter.

Harvick done threw away a good run because his head played a trick on him.

The chase as it was before, if someone got in your way and he cost you a good finish you were, perhaps able to overcome that by being able to race the rest of the races unimpeded by point resets.

Now, if someone gets in your way and costs you a good finish you cant even make that up because there is no room to do so in 3 races. (1 in which you have zero control over)

Just throwing this out there: NO, being agressive doensn't pay under this system either. Not going for a championship it doesn't.
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StandOnIt said:
There are two versions from different media outlets. Drivers out of the chase are saying they can get up to 5th..don't really think any of them will, but what the hay, we all dream. Other version is that when eliminated, Drivers will get some kind of made up Brian points. like 2000 or so. That would make the worst a chaser could get it 16 and the best non chaser 17..I'm getting a headache.
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when Nascar post any points it shows, the 16th place car 2061 points, and 17th at 859 points, so there's no chance of a driver getting to 5th from 17th. and after today's race, the top 12 reset from 3000 and now 13th thru 16 are stll 2000 point bracket, so playing out wouldn't that make only 4 cars eligible for 5th.
 
A driver can win the 1st. 6 races in a row get beat in points in the next 3 races going into the lasted race can't even run for the championship and win it so that makes it 7 out of 10 chase races he or she wins walks away not the champion how in blue blazes does that happen. The last race is a checkers or wreckers race wrecks get people hurt wrecks kills people this should not be called nascar racing it should be called lottery racing you got 4 drivers going for a lottery championship checkers or wreckers races I hope nascar can deal with the death of a driver when 1 of the 4 drivers going for the championship not thinking causes a wreck and god for bid someone is killed it will be all on nascar
 
pudge said:
when Nascar post any points it shows, the 16th place car 2061 points, and 17th at 859 points, so there's no chance of a driver getting to 5th from 17th. and after today's race, the top 12 reset from 3000 and now 13th thru 16 are stll 2000 point bracket, so playing out wouldn't that make only 4 cars eligible for 5th.
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when they fall out from any round but the last one, they get their points reset to 2000 I believe and they get regular point scoring going back to the start of the chase was one version I read. So that would limit it to 12 going for 5th...come to think of it, it was Almirola who said he could go as high as 5th before the Kansas race.
 
For over 50 to 60 years the way Nascar did there points was good with them why change it Dale Sr. is rolling over in his grave I am all about Dale Jr. I don't think if he could speak his mine with out getting fined $50,00.00 to a 100,00.00 would want to win a championship this way and we all know he wants a championship . It's coming
 
I don't like the new chase format but I think its here to stay. I've said all along that I will just enjoy the races but Nascar doesn't fit a postseason and never will.

The intrest in the sport is still sadly in decline imo. Whether that's tied to the the chase format, the racing or whatever other factor IDK.
 
Reck said:
This new chase format has made teams operate under very unnecesary pressure of trying to make a cut only for their great efforts to be undone in the next race since you really cant have a bad race if you dont win that particular race within the round.

Fact checks:

In 4 races a total of 11 on track incidents involving chasers due to a wreck, a failure of some kind or bad luck has occured. Not including pit mishaps. This is a pretty alarming number of incidents given that, these guys are suppose to meet the challenge to compete and yet you can count on half of them to have some sort of issue during the race.

To me, it's all because of pressure. Unnecesary pressure being mounted on these drivers/crews and teams.

Making the chase this way almost makes it not worth the headache. I think you should be able to have fun while also running for a championship. It should never be so tense that you can have a meltdown when your car is making a sound its not suppose to be making.

Look back to last week at Allmendinger and this week's at Harvick. Specially the latter.

Harvick done threw away a good run because his head played a trick on him.

The chase as it was before, if someone got in your way and he cost you a good finish you were, perhaps able to overcome that by being able to race the rest of the races unimpeded by point resets.

Now, if someone gets in your way and costs you a good finish you cant even make that up because there is no room to do so in 3 races. (1 in which you have zero control over)

Just throwing this out there: NO, being agressive doensn't pay under this system either. Not going for a championship it doesn't.
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unnecessary pressure ?? boo hoo ! boo hoo ! cryin towel time ?
maybe nascar can hire dr. phil for counseling bottom 6 chase drivers/ teams before each race !

sounds like somebody just had a "mediocre " race 4 ta me ! ha!
 
hawg dawg said:
unnecessary pressure ?? boo hoo ! boo hoo ! cryin towel time ?
maybe nascar can hire dr. phil for counseling bottom 6 chase drivers/ teams before each race !

sounds like somebody just had a "mediocre " race 4 ta me ! ha!
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!@#%%^^&&**($#@@$%^&&&***

Was all I got from that post. Trying English.
 
Let's just give everyone the freakin trophy and send them home. It's supposed to be tough. Too much pressure? This is NASCAR. There should be pressure. It's not Saturday night @ some local track. Suck it up and go out there and race. A tough week in one of the Chase races should bite the team in the ass. The good thing about this current version is that a driver like Kahne, Keselowski, Earnhardt Jr, and Johnson can rebound over the next two weeks, whether by points or a win. Not an option in the past. More than likely they would have been sitting on the outside looking in. My driver is in that bottom 4 spot right now. He may not get past this round of eliminations but he's going to race his ass off trying to advance. I like it. :cool:
 
SpeedPagan said:
One of the thing I've always hated about the Chase was how much a bad race during The Chase cost you. You could have the perfect regular season, rack up a couple of top wins, many top 5s and top 10s. Basically be a front runner in the regular season. However, have one bad race in The Chase and you're close to being screwed. Honestly, I don't think one bad race should have that much of an impact on a team's season.
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One bad race (Phoenix) ruined Kenseth's chances last year and a win at Homestead wouldn't have guaranteed what it does this year.
 
Reck said:
This new chase format has made teams operate under very unnecesary pressure of trying to make a cut only for their great efforts to be undone in the next race since you really cant have a bad race if you dont win that particular race within the round.

Fact checks:

In 4 races a total of 11 on track incidents involving chasers due to a wreck, a failure of some kind or bad luck has occured. Not including pit mishaps. This is a pretty alarming number of incidents given that, these guys are suppose to meet the challenge to compete and yet you can count on half of them to have some sort of issue during the race.

To me, it's all because of pressure. Unnecesary pressure being mounted on these drivers/crews and teams.

Making the chase this way almost makes it not worth the headache. I think you should be able to have fun while also running for a championship. It should never be so tense that you can have a meltdown when your car is making a sound its not suppose to be making.

Look back to last week at Allmendinger and this week's at Harvick. Specially the latter.

Harvick done threw away a good run because his head played a trick on him.

The chase as it was before, if someone got in your way and he cost you a good finish you were, perhaps able to overcome that by being able to race the rest of the races unimpeded by point resets.

Now, if someone gets in your way and costs you a good finish you cant even make that up because there is no room to do so in 3 races. (1 in which you have zero control over)

Just throwing this out there: NO, being agressive doensn't pay under this system either. Not going for a championship it doesn't.
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If these guys cant handle the pressure then they dont deserve a championship... simple. Why should it be fun running for a championship? I know I'd be ****ting myself every lap knowing its all on the line like it is.. and they do have a shot to come back.. they just have to win.


Not that I have to worry about that :p

This thread wouldn't even exist if Gordon had a good race yesterday.
 
Revman said:
Really? They didn't pit because their cars didn't turn. Trust me....the JGR guys know a thing or two about cars that won't turn. Anybody know if Delana's wife took the blame for **** canning the race? ......because he always does that. Right?
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Probably blamed his crew :rolleyes: lol
 
Can you imagine if all 4 Hendrick teams fall out in this round? That probably won't happen, but HMS does hold 4 of the last 5 spots right now. Might make BF rethink this mess if all his superstars go bye-bye this early.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
He's got new super stars :D
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I do notice that Joey has picked up a lot of fans this year. He's still nowhere near Dale Jr or Gordon status in popularity, but it'll be interesting to see where he ends up in MPD voting this year. I don't think he even cracked the Top 10 last year, but that could change.
 
ToyYoda said:
I do notice that Joey has picked up a lot of fans this year. He's still nowhere near Dale Jr or Gordon status in popularity, but it'll be interesting to see where he ends up in MPD voting this year. I don't think he even cracked the Top 10 last year, but that could change.
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I duno about that... never was really concerned with MPD but I think he's getting up there... I know that on Facebook Im an admin for a Joey Logano Fans group and weve gone from about 350 to about 1100 member this season.
 
[quote="SlicedBread22, post: 847677, member: 7141
If Gordon had a good day yesterday... this thread would not exist.[/quote]
Who are you kidding? It would have existed under another name by someone else.

What happened to those top teams yesterday could have happened under any other format to determine the championship. In every single case it would have been a bad points day and jeopardize their championship hopes. For me, knowing that my driver still has a chance by scoring a win over the next two gives me more hope than to have relied on gaining those points alone.

I like what I'm watching. It's added excitement to each of the races of the post season. That's something that was certainly lacking before.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Who are you kidding? It would have existed under another name by someone else.

What happened to those top teams yesterday could have happened under any other format to determine the championship. In every single case it would have been a bad points day and jeopardize their championship hopes. For me, knowing that my driver still has a chance by scoring a win over the next two gives me more hope than to have relied on gaining those points alone.

I like what I'm watching. It's added excitement to each of the races of the post season. That's something that was certainly lacking before.
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Absolutely.. people are acting like its this points system that is screwing them... no.. its their driver not doing good. The points system is actually pretty much the only thing that can save them at this point... and if they cant be saved... they dont deserve to be.. simple.
 
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