Discussion in 'Sports and Entertainment Center' started by ToyYoda, Nov 7, 2017.
^ Last two weeks.
Rightsizing again. I think a certain something not getting the headline week in and week out may have helped their cause. But, that's for another section of the forum as I don't want to drail a good thread.
Record-setting scoring and number of close games plus big-market teams doing well are more of a factor IMO. The NFL is having a youth movement of sorts of its own right now.
I agree 100% with @FLRacingFan for the reasons the NFL did well this year. Watching Mahomes and Goff plus Barkley, Breeze, Ertz and the kid under center in Baltimore was great fun. The Nick Foles mystique is alive and well again and it was great to see the Chargers do well.
I get as excited about the NHL and NFL as @Revman does about Nascar and that means being fired up!
I think ups and downs are to be expected in sports as long as they balance each other out and are viewed in context.
A dud game, a bad halftime show, and pissed Saints fans led to the lowest TV ratings for the Super Bowl in 11 years.
Put this in the superbowl thread also bud. Thanks.
I enjoyed the game as watching one of the best QB’s and the goat of coaches win again was something to be appreciated, IMO. I really liked the Pats commitment to the running game too. Sean Payton got out coached by the master and Jared Goff wasn’t ready for the big stage, IMO.
Oops! I meant McVay!
I shoulda gone fishing too.
I watched the whole thing, but the game was kind of a dud for me. Prior to Sunday, Super Bowl XXXV between the Ravens and Giants was the worst Super Bowl I’d seen. I think Sunday topped it.
Someone asked If I DVR'd it. The answer was HELL NO.
Only three more games on true national TV available the rest of the year (one next week on TNT, one semifinal on TNT, championship on CBS), but this has to be considered a good start for the AAF. It'll be interesting to see how this holds up at the end of the year after playing mostly on NFL Network and CBS Sports Network the rest of the way.
More football in February is not something I find myself wanting. I'm just not that kind of football fan. I kinda like that it goes away for nearly half the year.
I don't begrudge people who do want more though, and it seems clear there is meaningful demand for a credible spring league.
NBA ratings at the All-Star break...
NBA TV (-17%)
Not just the NBA. Today I read that MLB live attendance last year was at its lowest level since 2003.
However, I've heard the trend of entertainment programming is even weaker. There is still great value in live sports programming, IMO.
North Carolina-Duke: Most-Watched Weeknight Men’s College Basketball Game in ESPN History
College basketball on ESPN is +15% so far.
Sports is at least usually a mixed bag depending on storylines and who happens to be good at certain times. For instance, while NBA viewership is down from 2017-2018 at the moment it's at least still up from 2016-2017. And many RSNs tend to have the highest-rated programming in the market. Scripted/entertainment programming would love to be in the position of a lot of these sports/sports networks.
Getting ready to watch multiple tournament's to see who advances. Gotta get these TV's warmed up for March Madness starting next week.
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Audience Rises For College Hoops Regular Season, With ESPN Up 15%
Been watching NCAABB all afternoon. Just warming up for next week. No dog in the fight but fun to watch none the less.
I don't sub to The Athletic, but it is a pretty well-known albeit taboo topic in baseball that MiLB players are horribly underpaid. It's good to see that at least one team has stepped up and will increase pay around 50% on average, but much of this falls on MLB itself. The lobbying efforts done by MLB to slip some legislation through to maintain the impoverished state of minor leaguers are very poor optics as well.
The F1 number is strong for that start time. I keep waiting for all this big push Liberty Media is going to make into the American market, and nothing meaningful has happened yet. A number like that for a race starting after 1:00 AM Eastern is encouraging, especially given how poor the racing currently is.
I got a PM from Stern confirming that SX ratings are down 20-25% compared to last year on FS1. My response:
"Thanks for the info, that's unfortunate. It had been a sort of fixture on FS1 Saturday nights for several years..To me it feels like NBC hasn't promoted as much, but I'm not tuned into NBCSN that often. It shouldn't be down this much as a sport with a loyal niche following. The racing has been good, but the guys that were supposed to dominate aren't. Perhaps not having an established star winning lots of races is hurting."
I think the key with NBCSN is that they'll always be out of sight, out of mind with most sports fans. NBC obviously has a business plan to cover niche sports in-depth, but their ratings will always be lower than they can be since no one else has any real reason to watch, no one else gets exposed to the network, and no lead-in or lead-out can help catch casual eye balls. I am sure in SX's case that no longer having lead-ins from college basketball or Xfinity races and instead having a lead-in from an event that had more people at the track than watching on TV (Sebring) does no favors whatsoever. But I would agree that I haven't seen much, if any, promotion of SX by NBC either. With FOX seemingly just dropping it outright at the end of last year you have to imagine Feld just took whatever they could get.
I think over time it will also be shown that Disney's offer for IndyCar was better than what NBC offered (very unpopular opinion), in spite of NBC perhaps 'promoting' better. Now that ESPN has established themselves as the F1 rightsholders in America I think we'll see more gains made, although not by a few hundred percent as Australia had.
Sucks to see NHRA viewership is going down, Pro Stock needs a boost.
Also, AAF ratings: Saturday night saw an increase as the AAF game on NFL Network increased to 354,000 viewers with a .21 rating. Sunday night on the NFL Network had a downward trend as the game drew 234,000 viewers with a .06 rating. Both games ranked in the top 150 cable shows for the day.
Numbers many sports would kill for.
I don't understand why the NHL and NBA didn't schedule the start of their postseasons a week later this year. With the Final Four and Masters moving back a bit in the calendar the Masters, NHL playoffs, NBA playoffs will all be on the same weekend next week - seems pretty stupid to me. But I guess the suits know more than I do.
NBC SPORTS’ 2018-19 NHL REGULAR-SEASON COVERAGE DELIVERS VIEWERSHIP INCREASES ACROSS ALL PLATFORMS
NBC's contract is $2 billion over 10 years, and ratings are about what Nascar pulls for Xfinity Series practice or qualifying sessions..
I've been paying attention to a fair amount of sports media coverage over the past few years from figures like Richard Deitsch, John Ourand, and many others. One concept they talk about often in terms of what provides value to the sports networks is "tonnage". As in, the reason why Stephen A. Smith is particularly valuable to ESPN isn't because he attracts huge audience numbers, but because he delivers the desired levels during mid-morning hours for two entire hours every day. This is much more valuable than one of their 30-minute shows that pulls in similar numbers.
Similarly, there are certain sports like baseball and hockey that do not or no longer attract large national audiences during the regular season, but they provide dependable viewership across hundreds and hundreds of hours of programming. Some of it is purely about the challenge of filling the schedule and using it to cross-promote.
It's a lot of inventory as @gnomesayin said - 112 regular season games and still ~85 playoff games still to come, when the big numbers roll in. They averaged 1.45M for all 83 playoff games last year and can reasonably expect about 2M average for the conference finals and 5M average for the Stanley Cup Final. They might get their money's worth on the playoffs alone - NHL was also NBCSN's/VERSUS's bread and butter for some time and is still comfortably up there with NASCAR as their most valuable sports property.
The Vegas Golden Knights just paid 500 million for their franchises and the yet unnamed Seattle expansion franchise will pay 650 million.
For a niche sport the NHL does well but not so much for Nascar. I will say the NHL has good product.
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