Sports TV ratings, etc. Random sports talk

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  1. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    Interesting. NBA playoffs were up considerably overall, Finals down with it being an uncompetitive sweep. However, down to a greater extent in the younger demos for a league that has the youngest overall audience. It appears the Cavs / Warriors fatigue set in disproportionately for younger viewers.
     
  2. FLRacingFan

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  3. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Two whole games. Joke



     
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  4. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Yikes.

    NFL punishment is all over the place. No consistency whatsoever IMO.
     
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  6. StandOnIt

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    Yeah I have read about the NFL's drug testing policy or lack of. Surprisingly the MMA's testing program is touted as the best there is and Nascar's is said to be modeled after it.
     
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  7. gnomesayin

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  9. StandOnIt

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    US World Cup ratings down 42 percent without American team
    The 48 group stage telecasts on Fox and FS1 averaged 2,069,000 viewers, according to Nielsen Media Research. That is down 42 percent from the 3.54 million average on ESPN, ESPN2 and ABC four years ago and down 15 percent from the 2,429,000 average on ESPN, ESPN2 and ABC eight years ago.

    Excluding games involving the U.S. team in previous World Cups, the average declined 28 percent from the 2014 tournament in Brazil and was up 1 percent from the 2010 tournament in South Africa.
    https://www.reviewjournal.com/sport...atings-down-42-percent-without-american-team/
     
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  10. StandOnIt

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  11. FLRacingFan

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  12. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Fired up for ratings
    MLB ratings steady, but success of popular teams could bolster second-half numbers

    https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2018/07/16/Research-and-Ratings/MLB-ratings.aspx

     
  13. FLRacingFan

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  14. LewTheShoe

    LewTheShoe Team Owner

    Quite by accident, I stumbled upon a fascinating article about how the Tour de France is seeking to spice up its action in order to maintain its audience. Recommended reading for everyone who participates in the debate about evolution in the world of sports.

    TOUR DE FRANCE SEEKING MORE ACTION FROM INNOVATIVE STAGES

    CARCASSONNE, France (AP) — Tired of watching cycling races where nothing ever seems to happen? The Tour de France thinks it has some solutions to liven up the action: Shorter mountain stages, intermediate bonus sprints, and a Formula One-like grid start.

    "Spectators are becoming more and more demanding and they want to see real excitement," says Luca Guercilena, general manager of the Trek-Segafredo team.

    "Endurance is a big part of cycling. But if we're able to mix the strain of longer stages with shorter legs that allow space for more attacks, a good mix could be the winner."

    While mountain stages in the Tour are traditionally more than 150 kilometers (100 miles) or longer — sometimes beyond 200 kilometers — this Tour features two legs that are relative sprints by comparison...

    "It's not really been done before so it's going to be tough..." says Geraint Thomas, the Team Sky rider wearing the yellow jersey. "I'm sure it will be good to watch, maybe not to race...."

    https://racing.ap.org/article/tour-de-france-seeking-more-action-innovative-stages
     
  15. StandOnIt

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  16. IanMcVittie

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  17. LewTheShoe

    LewTheShoe Team Owner

    NEWS FLASH... San Diego Chargers Los Angeles Chargers mull relocating to St. Louis?? Or maybe Oakland??

    Just kidding, just kidding. I made that up. But seriously, I was gobsmacked to read at ESPN.com that "the viability of the Chargers in Los Angeles was a topic of discussion at the owners meetings" going on this week in New York. The San Diego Chargers reportedly paid $645 million in Jerry Jones blood money relocation fees to their NFL partners to move to Los Angeles last year.

    "The Chargers are currently playing in the StubHub Center in Carson, California. The venue seats about 30,000 people, which makes it about half as big as even the smallest NFL stadiums. Their plan is to move into the new stadium the Rams are building in Inglewood in 2020..."

    According to ESPN sources, "the Chargers are expected to revise their initial Inglewood revenue goal from $400 million down to $150 million" per year. Part of the reason for the steep revenue shortfall appears to be the Chargers slashing ticket prices for the new stadium. ( More info here )
     
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  18. Go Panthers

    Go Panthers Team Owner

    Perhaps the NFL should have tried one team in LA before they relocated 2 teams?
     
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  19. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Car Chief

    I don't know why Dean Spanos didn't take the money the NFL and San Diego offered and remain in the city. At the Stub Hub Center it is hard to know which is the home team as the visiting teams often get loud applause. Fortunately for the Chargers and the NFL there are any number of cities that would love to have them. Maybe they will end up in San Antonio, Portland, OK City or Memphis. The NFL makes blunders but they never over saturate the market.
     
  20. StandOnIt

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  21. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    Those Supercross MEC numbers are unfortunate, especially given that last year's race was relegated to FS2 as well.

    The Los Angeles market as an untapped goldmine for the NFL is still theoretical and unproven. I doubt two teams will find enough support there.

    Meanwhile, it seems like the NFL is TV ratings resurgent this season, with more games showing increases than decreases. I've only watched about three or four games all year, but they seem to have stymied the losses of the past two seasons. As viewership for most entertainment programming continues to dwindle, the NFL is more dominant than ever.

     
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  22. gnomesayin

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  23. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    An expected bump from having two major sports markets and two historical franchises in the World Series is not happening.

     
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  24. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Probably sick and ******* tired of Boston winning sh!t.

    Although to be serious I think the games have been much longer so far.
     
  25. StandOnIt

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    That's strange all excuses aside, so much of the stick n ball stuff is tilted or gerrymandered to the larger mo money urban areas.
     
  26. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Always a fan of the Mulvihill figures. This 80% one in particular is just astounding.



    And ESPN’s demise has been greatly exaggerated. NBCSN ahead of FS1 is a little surprising - Olympics bump?

     
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  27. StandOnIt

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    pretty telling that over the air is way ahead and ESPN is available on lower tier plans.
     
  28. LewTheShoe

    LewTheShoe Team Owner

    There is very little difference in homes subscribing to ESPN versus ESPN2, FS1, and NBCSN. Seriously, these are the numbers we were discussing just today in the other thread. The sharply higher viewer numbers for ESPN are due to other factors.

    The one not shown in the Mulvihill tweets is CBS Sports. If CBS keeps it, it will likely be looking to upgrade its sports properties. It lags way behind the others.
     
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  29. StandOnIt

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    Doesn't look like baseball did that well this year
    MLB Attendance Drops to Lowest Average in 15 Years
    MLB attendance has dropped to its lowest average in 15 years, down 6.6% from this time last year and 8.6% overall, according to Stats LLC. The league could see its first season since 2003 with average attendance below 30,000.

    While there are no statistics readily available on how much this drop is actually costing the league, a quick calculation — based on annual league-wide attendance rates, the 2,430 games played each season, and an average price of $76 per ticket — estimates a loss of nearly $355 million on ticket sales alone.

    http://fortune.com/2018/06/15/mlb-attendance-rate-declining/
     
  30. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    This was in June, and attendance climbed back to only a 4% decline YOY after the final half. MLB cited a record number of April games played in sub-50 temperatures (102), as well as the largest number of postponed games since 1989 (54). That taken into account, 4% is probably not too bad.

    They still did reasonably well on TV, as MLB on RSNs dropped only 2%, ESPN -4%, FS1 -8%, FOX +9%, MLB Network +4%. And twelve teams had their RSN games rank as the #1 primetime program in their market.

    https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com...8/Research-and-Ratings/Cardinals-ratings.aspx

     
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  31. StandOnIt

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    Yeah much better, they estimate they only lost 93 million in ticket sales.


    Major League Baseball Teams Lost $93 Million This Season Because No One Is Going to Games
    Major League Baseball attendance dropped 4 percent this year, continuing a steady decline for “America’s Pastime.” It’s the lowest league-wide attendance since 2003 and the largest single-season drop in a decade.

    Poor attendance can also have a ripple effect on team revenue. Assuming each of those missing fans would have purchased two beers and a hot dog during the game, MLB teams lost another $47.2 million in food and beverage sales. That’s a conservative estimate, but MLB teams report attendance as tickets sold, not actual turnstile numbers. Other potential profits, like parking and merchandise sales, were also omitted in these calculations.

    http://time.com/money/5416792/baseball-attendance-continues-slide/
     
  32. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    I didn't say "much better", I said probably not too bad. I'm not quite sure what your hypothesis is either. If it's the usual "baseball is dying" that's been trotted out by mainstream media for well over a decade now, that's not the case. $93M over 30 teams isn't going to make or break the sport.



     
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  33. StandOnIt

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    I wasn't commenting on your post, Much better means instead of losing 355 million on ticket sales they only lost 93 million
     
  34. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Car Chief

    One difference I have noticed between NASCAR and some other sports is the other sports can lose viewers but recapture them again. NASCAR has lost fans for many consecutive years with no bounce back,

    This is not a knock on NASCAR but just something that has occurred for many years.
     
  35. Reck

    Reck Enrique?

    The burnout effect.

    NASCAR or racing in general is not everyones cup of tea. Once they lose interest its hard to get it back. Specially when fans of NASCAR are far and in between.

    I have never met a NASCAR fan in this city in my life. People know of it bu as far as being fans..lol
     
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  36. StandOnIt

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    No help for game three

     
  37. StandOnIt

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    No help


    Boston’s comeback win, which peaked with 16.77 million viewers, was the least-watched Game 4 of the World Series since Royals-Giants in 2014 (10.74M). It topped only Royals-Giants as the least-watched Game 4 on record. Keep in mind that Game 4 did not begin airing on a Saturday night — the least-watched night of the week — until 2014.
     
  38. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Car Chief

    MLB seems to have some of the same issues as NASCAR including an aging fan base, periods of time where the perception is not much is happening and lower TV ratings.

    One thing where MLB differs is there is a possibility of a bounce back where in NASCAR the elevator only goes down.
     
  39. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    MLB is primarily now a regional sport, and there is high engagement at that level with the regional sports networks. While an average of 13 million viewers is not to be minimized, and was far and away the most popular thing the Fox network had to offer its viewers this fall outside of NFL football, these simply aren't the kind of numbers expected from a Boston vs. Los Angeles series.

    It somewhat feels like the NFL and NBA are national sports leagues with national superstars driving interest, and MLB and NHL are regional ones. That Mulvihill MLB / NBA comparison invites a lot of interesting debate though

    How this relates to NASCAR, which is a form of auto racing, is pretty pointless. Same with golf, tennis, the Olympics, you name it that isn't a franchise based league.
     
  40. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Car Chief

    MLB had around 70 million in attendance this year. IDK what NASCAR’s attendance will be for 2018 but I know it will be over 68 million less than MLB so comparing the 2 sports doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.
     

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