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Landlord is giving me a 10x10 storage building. All wood and will need at minimum shingles or another type of roofing. Hasn't leaked enough to damage floor. Ordered an air powered nail gun today and 50' hose/some couplers. Bought 2 broken Husky compressors last week. Take two and make one. Ordered a 6"vise. Need to build a couple benches. The 10x10 building is too small to work in. It'll be jammed full within couple days. So probably build another 12x16? Waiting for Uncle Joe to send more money! Need to rebuild transmission on my S-10. 4L60E. Still working but 185K. I'd like to build a barn type with loft. Anyone know where I can find plans? Local building supply place wants $2K for a kit. OUCH! I'm not great at carpentry. Dad taught me his worst. He was a great machinist but sucked at building trades.
 

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Shedking.com $16.95 thru PayPal. 32 page download. I'd forgotten about seeing this.
 

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Tool recommendations? Sliding miter saw or chop saw? Radial Arm saw worth having or has everyone gone to finger whacking table saws? Local Pawn shop has $100 table saw. I currently have ZERO saws that aren't run by manual labor. Figuring on dong pawn shop circular & recip (corded). Landlord has a miter saw I purchased for her last summer I can borrow. But I hate borrowing tools. Would like to spend less than $500 for tooling. What's the best bang for the buck? I'm guessing sliding miter, cheap circular and recip. Meh...be nice to have a jig saw for trimming stuff. At some point might be ahead tp hire someone to build it so I don't have to store a bunch of tools I won't really need later. Maybe trade out some mechanic work? Decisions, decisions. I shoulda got married. All the decisions are out of your hands.
 

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Just went and looked at building again. Very likely need to completely remove roof and replace with barn type. Has T-111 siding. Needs good power washing and paint. Some repair at lower extremities. Found this? Former building owner did some intricate wood working. Any idea what this is and is it worth saving. Or just use it to make something else semi-useful?
 

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Interior and home built lathe/shaper/something?
 

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Swear i had more pictures of outside but phone seems to have consumed them.
 

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Just went and looked at building again. Very likely need to completely remove roof and replace with barn type. Has T-111 siding. Needs good power washing and paint. Some repair at lower extremities. Found this? Former building owner did some intricate wood working. Any idea what this is and is it worth saving. Or just use it to make something else semi-useful?
It's a small wood lathe.
 

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Only one I can find. Need to new phone. It seems to have ignition issues.
 

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To be honest...I kind of wish she hadn't given it to me. Would rather have spent the money on building my own. $450 to move it. Gonna take $500 to restore it. Could have bought a kit for a larger building for another 200. YES...I look gift horses in the mouth! ;););)
 

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Do you have a Tuff Shed lot near you? They have financing options. Also, available at Home Depot with financing options. I bought a Tuff shed several years ago.

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Yep. Can buy a kit and build for about 1/2 the cost. Lumber yard is 150 yards away. But that's not considering tool cost and your time or skill needed. I have the time...the skill is questionable? And to be clear I am VERY self-deprecating.
 

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Have you considered a metal building. That's my plan for my next shop. I like the metal look durability cost.
I will probably line the inside with some type of boards to help with hanging some tools etc and lining the inside perimeter with lots of shelving.
 

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This has been laying here for a while. I bet prices have gone up by 30%.
 

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Sounds like you don't have any options at all. How about a tarp? :XXROFL:
You should see my trailer with my toolboxes on it. Three tarps over two sheets of plywood. So...I need SOMETHING that is sealed and can handle the weight of my toolboxes.
 

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Considered enclosing trailer. Just gets really heavy. And there is my old building. Landlord moved it down to sons trailer when I was out-of-state.
 

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If I had a nickel for every time I hit my head on that building I'd still have a concussion.
 

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As much as I hate to think I'll borrow the tools from landlord. But the sliding miter saws make my sticker peck up. Might have to acquire one anyway. At this point, think I'll remove roof and stretch the building & replace roof with barn style.

I WANT a 12x20 or even bigger. But no money for that unless I find the key for my bitcoin...
 

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If you want a loft make sure you put a hip roof on it and 8 foot sidewalls.
After some research, why the hip roof" Seems to complicate things and reduce loft space. Educate me. I can be dense at times.

 

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I'll add that the plywood covering my toolboxes is 3/4' which I use as a work surface under cars when doing mobile work. Makes it less dangerous to use jackstands plus easier to find dropped bolts and tools. I've enclosed a 5x8 trailer before but didn't really get it weatherproofed. Would really need to remove rail around perimeter and build a frame that can seal the floor to walls. Ain't worth it. I suppose could build a really light weight enclosure and use the tarps when parked? Hmmmm? Tempting. Hardest part is nailing the toolboxes down. Have to screw blocks to floor now if transporting very far. Straps stretch and they move.
 

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I am currently in a holding pattern myself (refer to epilouge and yes it takes a shameless poster to add a post epilouge).

I am needing to make an old preexisting building worksop work on my property due to some constraints myself. It was an old 24 x 12 cinderblock building that originally had a partition in the middle making two 12 x 12 sections, one closed in and one side was partially open under the same roof system.

I knocked out the middle wall and closed in the open section to make it one 24 x 12 room.
It isn't idea but I have optimized the space. The entire inner perimeter is lined with a tool chest, home built shelves, and a built in wall counter top for the miter saw. There is no empty wall space and only an opening for the door. I painted it white inside for better visability and I removed the ceiling panels to store lighter and less used items overhead.
It still takes sone dedication to prevent cluttering up the center section during projects due to the size.
I think you really need at least a 24 x 24 to freely work.
If I am working on the lawn mowers I just throw a tarp down on the lawn or yard and just use the building for the took storage. I also do most of my cutting outside using sawhorses as a platform.
I built an ugly lean to on the backside with 4x4s to serve as a doghouse for the lawnmower.
I use the cheap circular saw with a laser a lot more than the Miter saw.

Another consideration is heat if your climate has cold winters. I wish I had purchased a bigger propane heater it really isn't big enough to do the job when it's cold. I use a kerosene one most times and the odor is strong.

Epilouge.
My situation is not exactly the same but it has similarties. My home is paid for but the wife and I have thought about buying something bigger and better. A bigger house and about an acre plus for all my toys and whatever I want to pursue including an excuse for a small tractor.

My two conflicts are that my mother lives about five houses away in the neighborhood is 83 and aging. I am also Mr Fix-it for her house and my brothers too. There are honest descent plumbers and electricians around but she has a tendency to hire the cheapest and then live with the awful results. So I just fix her stuff myself.
I just don't have the heart to move while she is still living and this needful stage and final chapters of her life.
I hate making calculations on my mother's mortality but she is on limited time and I want to close out that chapter in a descent an honorable manner.

I have been on the verge of putting down 7k to grade and cement in the back and then build a 36x 36 car garage with additional 12 foot wide patio lean to extension. That would allow me to park cars and then partition a 12 x 36 shop/ mancave and dungeon behind the cars.
I could do all that immediately but I don't want to burn about 20k at the present location and then sale it in two or three years.
 
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Maybe this will make more sense.
Since the new to me needs a roof and even though only 10x10 is sagging in middle, hope to replace with barn style as above. Can store a ton of stuff in the loft. Use 6x6 stringers so it won't fall on my hard head. I've spent myself down to having to wait until Wed before buying anything else. Get my SS 2nd Wed. Have to hang on to money for building mover just in-case it shows up early in week. And yes some of us end up with less than $100 in the bank once a month. That is main reason I want a building. Need to start doing a few jobs a month to supplement. Lost my job in porn. Or at least last job was getting screwed every week. Fine line there.
 

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Have to admit I've owned several circular and recip saws over the years. Eventually sold them due to getting tired of moving them around. Pawn shop junk will have to do unless I can force myself to use landlords. She's 87 & has 2 kinds of cancer. In treatment now. Suppoedly going to deed the place to me but thru her daughter which had liver transplant in 2012/13? I haven't seen them to do what they say. So nervous about depending on heir honesty. I keep her cars on the road. She buys parts I do labor for probably 10 bucks hour. Usually doesn't amount to more than couple hours of my time. Except for the Kia Amanti rack & pinion, firewall side converter, timing belt, water pump, valve cover gaskets, tune-up...yikes! That wasn't much fun on the ground.
 

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Just poking around, can't believe how expensive wood is now. Need to check across the street and see if they have a price list. I'm going to offer the shed mover the option of just dropping the shed and not doing the set-up if that cuts the price. Use a couple 16 foot 2x8 and few pipes to roll it back when it's finished. Can leave it closer to my front door to make it easier to stretch a power cord. Have a 10 foot 12 ga cord. But shorter is always better for the tools. Maybe even pull trailer over and roll toolboxes off in the yard so can use trailer as a work surface. Really need to sell the big box and buy 2 or 3 smaller cheapo's. My old back hates getting down on my prayer bones. Be great if I could find a temp service and connect it to 220 where I added connection for washer/dryer. I'm drawing a blank on what cable I need to run underground. 10/3 maybe? Need probably 25-30 feet. Eventually like to have mig and other tools to build some metal stuff.
 

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Tool recommendations? Sliding miter saw or chop saw? Radial Arm saw worth having or has everyone gone to finger whacking table saws? Local Pawn shop has $100 table saw. I currently have ZERO saws that aren't run by manual labor. Figuring on dong pawn shop circular & recip (corded). Landlord has a miter saw I purchased for her last summer I can borrow. But I hate borrowing tools. Would like to spend less than $500 for tooling. What's the best bang for the buck? I'm guessing sliding miter, cheap circular and recip. Meh...be nice to have a jig saw for trimming stuff. At some point might be ahead tp hire someone to build it so I don't have to store a bunch of tools I won't really need later. Maybe trade out some mechanic work? Decisions, decisions. I shoulda got married. All the decisions are out of your hands.
I had a complete woodworking shop. Siding miter is the cats meow. Of all my power saws it's the radial arm saw that puts the fear in my heart. If you'll be doing ''construction'' type woodworking even cheap saws will frustrate you with their inaccuracy. Harbor Freight has come a long way, their dust collector was just as good as my Delta, their 14 inch bandsaw and my Jet were equal . Gotta look around but their tools aren't all cheap Chinese junk. Hell most every brand of woodworking tools are made in china, the better grade in Taiwan.
 

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Interesting. Had no idea they made these that big.

Anything larger than a 12X12 here requires a building permit.
 

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I had a complete woodworking shop. Siding miter is the cats meow. Of all my power saws it's the radial arm saw that puts the fear in my heart. If you'll be doing ''construction'' type woodworking even cheap saws will frustrate you with their inaccuracy. Harbor Freight has come a long way, their dust collector was just as good as my Delta, their 14 inch bandsaw and my Jet were equal . Gotta look around but their tools aren't all cheap Chinese junk. Hell most every brand of woodworking tools are made in china, the better grade in Taiwan.
Tool brands to avoid? Especially if buying used.
 
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