Talledega Pre Race Thread

I liked the strategy of the tandem racing. It made RP racing more than holding your foot down and steering around the track. Like Tony Stewart said, you could train a monkey to drive a car at Daytona or Talladega (see Michael Waltrip's 3 RP wins).
 
How in the world would Danica get a new sponsor. Aspen Dental must of been desperate :p
 
3wideinturn1 said:
Plate racing is as much of a skill as any other style of racing, it's just a different kind of skill. People saying it's all luck are wrong IMO. Does it take some luck? Sure, but it's not a coincidence you see guys like JJ, Kenseth, Smoke always near the front at go time.

I think it should be in the Chase because it's a type of racing that NASCAR has always had and is at the core of what NASCAR is all about. Really, it's the wrecks that are all a wildcard, and the guys at the front are usually able to stay out of them so I don't see it as anything to do with luck. What I see it as is the great equalizer, more than any of track outside of Daytona, the most amount of cars have a legit shot at winning and that's great if you ask me. They just need to fix this whole follow the leader thing and make passing easier.
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^^^^this

I'm not a fan of the Chase but as long as that's how the champion is to be determined, the 10 Chase races need to be a good cross section of the races held during the season.

Meaning cookie cutters, short tracks, road courses, and yes, a restrictor plate race.
 
Seeing guys pull away from the field at dega like they do at a 1.5 is annoying & stupid. The track has it's most intense moments in pack racing whether it be going from the back to the front, drivers getting left out to dry in the outside groove, a wreck, the choice of which line to take, and making your car 4 lanes wide on the last lap.
 
pjmolo said:
^^^^this

I'm not a fan of the Chase but as long as that's how the champion is to be determined, the 10 Chase races need to be a good cross section of the races held during the season.

Meaning cookie cutters, short tracks, road courses, and yes, a restrictor plate race.
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Totally Agree!
 
Stewart Fan said:
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That would just cause even more of that.
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For sure it would cause even more chaos and mayhem, Nascar needs less of that , not more.
 
Qualifying Order ---
#CarDriverTeam
1 51 Justin Allgaier(i)Brandt Chevrolet
2 93 Travis KvapilDr Pepper Toyota
3 98 Michael McDowellPhil Parsons Racing Ford
4 14 Austin Dillon(i)Bass Pro Shops / Mobil 1 Chevrolet
5 12 Sam Hornish Jr.(i)SKF Ford
6 10 Danica Patrick #GoDaddy Breast Cancer Awareness Chevrolet
7 31 Jeff BurtonCaterpillar Chevrolet
8 33 Landon Cassill(i)ERC Acquired TMone Chevrolet
9 38 David GillilandLong John Silver's Ford
10 42 Juan Pablo MontoyaTarget Chevrolet
11 24 Jeff GordonAxalta Chevrolet
12 29 Kevin HarvickJimmy John's Chevrolet
13 17 Ricky Stenhouse Jr. #Nationwide Insurance Ford
14 9 Marcos AmbroseDeWalt Ford
15 30 Cole Whitt(i)Black Clover Toyota
16 7 Dave BlaneyTommy Baldwin Racing Chevrolet
17 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr.Mountain Dew / XBox One Chevrolet
18 83 David ReutimannBurger King / Dr Pepper Toyota
19 21 Trevor Bayne(i)Motorcraft / Quick Lane Tire & Auto Center Ford
20 47 Bobby LabonteScott Products Toyota
21 99 Carl EdwardsSubway Ford
22 18 Kyle BuschM&M's Halloween Toyota
23 40 Tony Raines(i)Hillman Racing Chevrolet
24 39 Ryan NewmanWIX Filters Chevrolet
25 48 Jimmie JohnsonLowe's Chevrolet
26 13 Casey MearsGEICO Ford
27 55 Michael WaltripAaron's Dream Machine Toyota
28 5 Kasey KahneFarmers Insurance Chevrolet
29 34 David RaganSafecar.gov Ford
30 1 Jamie McMurrayCessna Chevrolet
31 35 Josh Wise(i)A&W All American Food Ford
32 2 Brad KeselowskiMiller Lite Ford
33 22 Joey LoganoShell Pennzoil Ford
34 78 Kurt BuschFurniture Row / Wonder Bread Chevrolet
35 11 Denny HamlinFedEx Freight Toyota
36 32 Terry LabonteC&J Energy Services Ford
37 16 Greg BiffleScotch Blue Ford
38 36 JJ YeleyGolden Corral Chevrolet
39 27 Paul MenardMenards / Duracell Chevrolet
40 56 Martin Truex Jr.NAPA Auto Parts Toyota
41 43 Aric AlmirolaCharter Ford
42 87 Joe Nemechek(i)NEMCO - JRR Toyota
43 15 Clint Bowyer5-hour Energy Toyota
44 20 Matt KensethHome Depot Let's Do This Toyota

* Required to qualify on time, (i) Ineligible for driver points in this series
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
This is the finish that stands out too me with the tandem racing.

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I remember listening to that finish on the 5/24 incar and if you watch the 5, MM got panicky when the spotter said four wide and letup, that's what cost JG any chance at the win, and JG being JG didn't throw MM under the bus for it.
 
Descriptive Forecast
Saturday
Clear with a chance of rain. High of 73F. Winds from the WSW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30%.
Saturday Night
Clear. Low of 41F. Winds less than 5 mph.

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Temp. | Dew Point54 | 5367 | 5465 | 5252 | 47
Wind1 mph West6 mph SW5 mph West3 mph NNW
Humidity96%63%62%82%
Chance of Precip.70%30%10%10%
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Tumbleweed said:
Dega is one of my favorite tracks but I personally don't think that plate tracks belong in the chase. Too many things outside a driver's control can unfairly upset the standings.
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An upset in the standings is what I am hoping for. Others may like things the way they are
 
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Sunday
Clear. High of 70F. Winds less than 5 mph.
Sunday Night
Clear. Low of 43F. Winds less than 5 mph.

Hourly6AM12 Noon6PM12 Midnight
Temp. | Dew Point44 | 4063 | 3861 | 3947 | 43
Wind2 mph North5 mph NNE2 mph North0 mph ENE
Humidity86%41%45%80%
Chance of Precip.0%0%0%0%
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Sunrise & Sunset
 
The Titans are on track and doing their stuff.
 
qualifying has been canceled..order set up using practice times. Hornish takes the hit doesn't make the race because of it. Harvick starting last.
 
StandOnIt said:
qualifying has been canceled..order set up using practice times. Hornish takes the hit doesn't make the race because of it. Harvick starting last.
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Aaaaand Hornish misses the race on number of races attempted. Dude can't catch a break.
 
I'm not a Hornish fan but that is stupid. Horrible rule.

He is clearly faster than the others outside the top 35.

If you re going to use practice speeds to determine qualifying order, use it to make sure the 43 fastest make the damn race.
 
I don't like Hornish and never will like him but that's just rotten luck.

I agree with beantown, there's no excuse for NASCAR not reverting to practice times for starting lineup if qualifying is rained out.
 
Joe Nemachek is a nice guy and all, but he shouldn't be rewarded for all his start and parks.
 
BobbyFord said:
Hornish is a hack in a Cup car. That's why he was relegated to the Nationwide Series.
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No one is arguing otherwise. He would probably cause a huge wreck if he made the race.

But that doesn't mean anything with regards to whether he should make this race or not.
 
beantownkid10 said:
Once again. No one is arguing that either.

Doesn't change the fact that it is a horrifically stupid rule.
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It's easy to tell you haven't been on here very long, some on here are going to argue about every freakin thing imaginable whether it's on topic or not.
 
StandOnIt said:
Takes a rocket scientist to understand the qualifying rules, I can't figure it out unless the Owner wasn't at the track so they don't award owner points? Sam was in the practices and has times for them.
http://www.jayski.com/news/pages/story/_/page/NASCAR-Sprint-Cup-Series-Qualifying-Rules
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Yeah, it's even more convoluted than the top 35 rule. Why they can't just have the fastest 43 cars race is beyond me. Who the hell cares if Junyer misses the race and his fans don't show up on race day?
 
1Aric Almirola43FordCharter-
2Jeff Burton31ChevroletCaterpillar-
3Marcos Ambrose9FordDeWalt-
4Martin Truex Jr56ToyotaNAPA Auto Parts-
5Carl Edwards99FordSubway-
6Greg Biffle16FordScotch Blue-
7David Ragan34FordSAFERCAR.GOV-
8Dale Earnhardt Jr88ChevroletMountain Dew/ Xbox One-
9Jamie McMurray1ChevroletCESSNA-
10Casey Mears13FordNo. 13 GEICO Ford Fusion-
11Jimmie Johnson48ChevroletLowe's-
12Matt Kenseth20ToyotaHome Depot "Let's Do This"-
13Brad Keselowski2FordMiller Lite-
14Josh Wise35FordA&W All American Food-
15Denny Hamlin11ToyotaFedEx Freight-
16Austin Dillon14ChevroletBass Pro Shops / Mobil 1-
17Ryan Newman39ChevroletWIX Filters-
18Joey Logano22FordShell Pennzoil-
19Jeff Gordon24ChevroletAxalta-
20Clint Bowyer15Toyota5-Hour Energy-
21Ricky Stenhouse Jr17FordNationwide Insurance-
22Michael Waltrip55ToyotaAaron's Dream Machine-
23Danica Patrick10ChevroletGoDaddy Breast Cancer Awareness-
24David Gilliland38FordLong John Silver's-
25David Reutimann83ToyotaBurger King-Dr. Pepper-
26Trevor Bayne21FordMotorcraft / Quick Lane Tire & Auto Center-
27Kyle Busch18ToyotaM&M's Halloween-
28Kasey Kahne5ChevroletFarmers Insurance-
29Bobby Labonte47ToyotaScott Products-
30Kurt Busch78ChevroletFurniture Row/Wonder bread Chev-
31Cole Whitt30ToyotaBlack Clover-
32Juan Pablo Montoya42ChevroletTarget-
33Kevin Harvick29ChevroletJimmy John's-
34Paul Menard27ChevroletMenards / Duracell-
35Justin Allgaier51ChevroletBrandt-
36Michael McDowell98FordPhil Parsons Racing-
37J.J. Yeley36ChevroletGolden Corral-
38Travis Kvapil93ToyotaDr. Pepper-
39Dave Blaney7ChevroletTommy Baldwin Racing-
40Terry Labonte32FordC&J Energy Services-
41Tony Raines40Chevrolet#40 Hillman Racing-
42Joe Nemechek87ToyotaNEMCO-JRR, LLC-
43Landon Cassill33ChevroletERC Acquired TMone Chevrolet
 
FLRacingFan said:
He's not Top 36 in Owner Points and not a past champion, so for the last few spots it goes down to number of races attempted and he has only one so far (spring Kansas).
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I think this is the part that pertains to Hornish-- # 3. race attempts.

If practice is held but qualifying canceled:
If the first practice is run, but qualifying is unable to take place and is canceled, the procedure for how teams are chosen to fill the field:
1) Top 36 in owners points.
2) Past Series Champions not in the top 36 of owners points.
3) Rrace attempts, ties broken by owners points rank.
The starting order is then set by 1st practice speed.
If two or more teams have no attempts, the team highest in qualifying draw gets in the race.
Provionals are not used and not charged to past series champions
 
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StandOnIt said:
yeah, I guess the owner points pertains to his car and not Penske racing et. all. So that makes Hornish and others who don't race much, have to qualify if there is an over flo of cars.
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Yeah, it's based on the #12 car. For instance, Allgaier has only run a couple of races but the #51 car is 30th in Owner Points so he was locked in.
 
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