The Announcers Thread

Maybe time for this broadcaster to rewrite its affiliate agreements.
 
aunty dive said:
Maybe time for this broadcaster to rewrite its affiliate agreements.
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The blame falls squarely on NASCAR with all this. They took the money and didn't care if they'd be prioritized.

This TV deal was destined to be a disaster, and sure enough, it has been.

NASCAR won't care since Xfinity ratings are up, especially now that Cup is experiencing historic ratings declines because the majority of the races are on cable only.
 
kkfan91 said:
The blame falls on CW for lying to people.
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I know it was in the original announcement, but did CW say that or did NASCAR say that?

NASCAR was STILL saying it was live on the app after it was known it would not be.

And NASCAR apparently doesn't have it written in contracts that these networks have to deliver everything they've promised.

From my understanding, the only reason FOX is launching a streaming app is because it was written into the IndyCar contract.
 
HoneyBadger said:
I know it was in the original announcement, but did CW say that or did NASCAR say that?

NASCAR was STILL saying it was live on the app after it was known it would not be.

And NASCAR apparently doesn't have it written in contracts that these networks have to deliver everything they've promised.

From my understanding, the only reason FOX is launching a streaming app is because it was written into the IndyCar contract.
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I stream on fox sports app all the time.
 
RaceCritter said:
CW cuts out and hiccups non stop. No other channel is doing it so it’s on them.
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I bet, if they put the races on the app, the viewing experience would be just fine.

Again, I'm a veteran CW viewer. I knew this would go down this badly because of that. I always had to use the app next day to watch nice cute pretty Supergirl because I either didn't have a CW affiliate or it was SD-only.
 
HoneyBadger said:
NASCAR won't care since Xfinity ratings are up, especially now that Cup is experiencing historic ratings declines because the majority of the races are on cable only.
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Yeah, but if Cup races were on broadcast Fox, the Fox affiliates would be doing the same thing the CW ones are - overriding the races to show the local teams - college basketball tournaments, baseball, etc. Living as both you and I do in NC, I'm extremely grateful Sunday's race was on FS1 with no local affiliates involved.

In a better world, everything from a source would be available across all platforms and deliver methods. I'm guessing one reason some stuff isn't is because streaming is much easier to steal than cable.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Yeah, but if Cup races were on broadcast Fox, the Fox affiliates would be doing the same thing the CW ones are - overriding the races to show the local teams - college basketball tournaments, baseball, etc. Living as both you and I do in NC, I'm extremely grateful Sunday's race was on FS1 with no local affiliates involved.

In a better world, everything from a source would be available across all platforms and deliver methods. I'm guessing one reason some stuff isn't is because streaming is much easier to steal than cable.
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Sounds like you may be talking from experience? ;) :punkrocke
 
hmmm298 said:
Sounds like you may be talking from experience? ;) :punkrocke
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Many many moons ago, before white man come to this land, when buffalo cover prairie and pigeon blacken sky, feared sky gods called 'Joined in Progress', 'Tape Delayed', and evil 'Pre-empted' roamed the land and kept Viewers of Circuits tribe from observing sacred rituals.

Network affiliates suck. Cable channels are much better than broadcast networks for sports that have to compete against for air time on a weekly basis against local teams. The affiliates are always going to show the local teams because that's what the locals want to see (big shock, I know), no matter how bad the team is.
 
HoneyBadger said:
The blame falls squarely on NASCAR with all this. They took the money and didn't care if they'd be prioritized.
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I've been screaming this from the rooftops for 25 years, but most just don't want to hear it. From the original TV deal, all NASCAR was concerned about was the size of the check. Whether the fine print favored NASCAR or not was in my opinion NEVER a consideration. NASCAR took an opportunity back in the day when they had leverage second only to the NFL and completely fumbled it. We are still reaping what THEY sowed.
 
ESPN has announced they will be offering a streaming only platform, thus not relying on cable or satellite TV. This is huge. Fox is about to announce something similar. This may be the beginning of the final chapter of cable and satellite TV. Those companies have relied on people needing ESPN to buy their services. And soon, they won't have to. This will either force those companies to finally offer true a la carte packages or fold. DirecTV is offering some specific packages, but those are too expensive. Comcast is also rolling out a streaming platform, but there is little info on it.
 
MRM said:
ESPN has announced they will be offering a streaming only platform, thus not relying on cable or satellite TV.
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I thought ESPN was hemorrhaging money. I'd think if cable companies wanted to pay to carry them, they'd take any source of income they could get. It doesn't seem like offering the content to cable would cost the network any more money than producing for streaming alone.
 
MRM said:
ESPN has announced they will be offering a streaming only platform, thus not relying on cable or satellite TV. This is huge. Fox is about to announce something similar. This may be the beginning of the final chapter of cable and satellite TV. Those companies have relied on people needing ESPN to buy their services. And soon, they won't have to. This will either force those companies to finally offer true a la carte packages or fold. DirecTV is offering some specific packages, but those are too expensive. Comcast is also rolling out a streaming platform, but there is little info on it.
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When you add in DIRECTV giving you ESPN+, their price isn't that bad for their sports package.
 
MRM said:
ESPN has announced they will be offering a streaming only platform, thus not relying on cable or satellite TV. This is huge. Fox is about to announce something similar. This may be the beginning of the final chapter of cable and satellite TV. Those companies have relied on people needing ESPN to buy their services. And soon, they won't have to. This will either force those companies to finally offer true a la carte packages or fold. DirecTV is offering some specific packages, but those are too expensive. Comcast is also rolling out a streaming platform, but there is little info on it.
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I guess it’s all relative. They will charge $29.95 per month. If someone is trying to do all over the air, getting all the sports through them might be good. But for NASCAR it takes Fox package, Prime and NBC/Peacock subs to view racing. I use Hulu+ Live for about $86 monthly. Prime cause we do Amazon plenty.
 
NBC will not put any NASCAR races on Peacock. But you will need USA Network.

Cable and satellite companies are slowly dying. An announcement like this only speeds that up. Others will soon follow suit.
 
MRM said:
NBC will not put any NASCAR races on Peacock. But you will need USA Network.

Cable and satellite companies are slowly dying. An announcement like this only speeds that up. Others will soon follow suit.
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Thanks forgot about Peacock not having NASCAR, USA needed. We rarely watch 90%+ of the channels offered via Hulu (which is essentially a cable imitator but via streaming). A la carte could be good but each service wants their profitability. $30 here, $25 there…
 
MRM said:
ESPN has announced they will be offering a streaming only platform, thus not relying on cable or satellite TV.
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Maybe I misunderstood this announcement. Does this mean ESPN will be available -only- as a streamed service with no cable access, or that it will be available as a streamed service without requiring the viewer to have a cable subscription?

Thanks for any clarifying answers.
 
You will still be able to get their channels through cable, satellite, or streaming TV service (i.e. YTTV). But you will also be able to buy it as its own standalone streaming service. No other TV service required to have it as far as I know.
 
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