THE CLASH

If a race containing the top 20 in points will satisfy the networks....just do that from now on. Or even just make it pole winners again
 
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Just an idea. Refund Bowman Gray tickets. Send the teams by Pensacola a few days before Daytona week, run it at the Snowball Derby joint, have free admission, fill the place up, NASCAR says let
bygones be bygones and let's get this season going. Heck, I would even settle for New Smyrna for
team convenience.
 
The die is cast, er frozen, and the race will commence once the massive arctic effects can be brutally wrestled into submission. The stands may look like the Covid moments but TV contract responsibilities and sponsor obligations will be satisfied, at a loss for tons of extra hours, expense and duplicated effort.

Maybe they could do this next year in St. Louis. We have a dome that doesn’t get used much this time of year. Just haul in some major air exchange equipment so the fans don’t die from carbon monoxide and it’s an easy fix!
 
Conover said:
Maybe they could do this next year in St. Louis. We have a dome that doesn’t get used much this time of year.
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Oh, cool, maybe NASCAR can cannibalize something else organic in motorsports. At least I guess from my perspective nothing of real value would be lost.
 
Conover said:
TV contract responsibilities and sponsor obligations will be satisfied, at a loss for tons of extra hours, expense and duplicated effort
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Seriously, I wonder how much this delay will cost Fox, NASCAR, the teams, etc. Will they make enough to cover or would they be better off financially to call it off?

I'm speculating, not encouraging any course of action.
 
Conover said:
The die is cast, er frozen, and the race will commence once the massive arctic effects can be brutally wrestled into submission. The stands may look like the Covid moments but TV contract responsibilities and sponsor obligations will be satisfied, at a loss for tons of extra hours, expense and duplicated effort.

Maybe they could do this next year in St. Louis. We have a dome that doesn’t get used much this time of year. Just haul in some major air exchange equipment so the fans don’t die from carbon monoxide and it’s an easy fix!
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They do monster trucks and dirt bikes in indoor coliseums all the time without carbon monoxide being an issue
 
Daytripper said:
They do monster trucks and dirt bikes in indoor coliseums all the time without carbon monoxide being an issue
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They literally had about 40,000 people in that very venue referenced for an auto race a month ago. Which, perhaps, could just be left alone to satisfy its fans?
 
Mispeedway15 said:
Oh Jesus the entire Great Lakes region is a block of ice right now. They’ll survive. You’re lucky to walk on any pavement right now
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No kidding! The other day it warmed up to 10 degrees during the day and I ran to put the garage cans out in a t-shirt and shorts.
 
wi_racefan said:
No kidding! The other day it warmed up to 10 degrees during the day and I ran to put the garage cans out in a t-shirt and shorts.
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By me our lows have been in the single digits and highs in the teens the last few weeks. Somehow I have gone on with my life including being outside and have survived. I've been skiing in -20F and also survived.
 
I just wish they'd go back to making this a smaller thing with fewer entries that's easier to follow and more of a reward for drivers who did something of value the year prior. I have not personally seen a single person ever discuss any great Clash moments or races from anything newer than the 1990s. What's been the story in recent years has been the venue change, not the on track action. Clearly, all the extra pomp and circumstance has not resulted in a more meaningful or popular event and moving it into the Carolinas in the winter doesn't seem like a particularly great solution right now.

Put 15-20 cars on track at Daytona for 25 laps and give people with infield passes IMSA level access or something as a gimmick to draw folks out and attend. I know what the reality is and that yes, Sao Paolo and Riyadh are a lot warmer this time of year. I don't want to just come here to hate on things forever. I'd like to see something become better.

also - you send NASCAR to Rio for some dumbass all star race, it'll probably lead to Bell and Larson not being able to run the Chili Bowl. Again, just have NASCAR cannibalize everyone and destroy everything: what could go wrong? They've run their own sport so well...
 
virtualbalboa said:
more of a reward for drivers who did something of value the year prior.
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Nope, gotta give out those participation trophys.

As you noted, it's become more about the venues than the racing. Just drop the entire thing with the next TV contract. It doesn't serve as a Daytona warm-up; Speedweeks are IMSA's now. The season is already long enough, and the start date is going to get pushed back even further as the NFL season lengthens.
 
So many things said in this thread is why NASCAR giving in to "fans" is a terrible idea.
 
kkfan91 said:
So many things said in this thread is why NASCAR giving in to "fans" is a terrible idea.
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We're talking about The Clash here. Allegedly the point of this event is to engage fans in a fun but meaningless start to season event. Who else is NASCAR supposed to be trying to appeal to more with this? The sponsors of the teams so they can steal those too?
 
wi_racefan said:
I rewatched last year's clash this morning and it was ok, I guess. Thing is where else do you take it would be better?
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After the luster wanes for Bowman Grey, I think what SRX did would be much better and give fans in other areas and in TV land something different to see by racing at some of these short tracks that most fans never would see. Just pick a track, the farther south the better in winter time. Screw the Nascar safety requirements, the tanks they drive on these little tracks aren't going to go fast enough for any serious injuries to occur anyway.
 
wi_racefan said:
I rewatched last year's clash this morning and it was ok, I guess. Thing is where else do you take it would be better?
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That depends on one's personal definition of better.

To me, that means having all 36+ cars on the track at the same time, running a distance or time long enough to require refueling and tire changes. There are plenty of tracks that fit those criteria, although many won't appeal to that segment of the fan base that wants to run on 'legacy' tracks.

I think running Cup cars on a track this small doesn't show the best capabilities of cars, drivers, or teams. Like LA, it's a venue chosen more to tear up cars than as an exhibition of what they can do.

Just one opinion. Others will vary. No big deal.
 
It's possible that there might be a dry zone in NC where there isn't snow. Everything might turn out sorta alright (it'll still be COLD).
 
virtualbalboa said:
It's possible that there might be a dry zone in NC where there isn't snow. Everything might turn out sorta alright (it'll still be COLD).
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Forecast looks like 3-6 inches ending Saturday evening. Sunday calling for 30-40 mph winds. The problem is gonna be snow drifts and getting there. NC snow removal sucks. Im betting its moved to Monday or Tuesday with a early start.
 
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