This sums up Nascar fans perfectly

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by Stewart Fan, Dec 18, 2018.

  1. Revman

    Revman Everything is Great!

    Haters cannot help themselves. Thread derailed. Kyle Busch moves the needle. You either love him, or he is like gawking at a traffic accident. There is no in between. NASCAR probably needs more like him. Indifference produces empty seats and poor ratings. This whole Sam Bass thing is completely stupid. Kyle's intent wasn't to disrespect the man. This is clear. He was trying to be funny, and then share the pieces with his team--the very thing many assert that Kyle doesn't consider--he hates his team, and treats them like sh!t, right? He tried to make things right with Sam, and as I understand it, Sam is good with Kyle....
     
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  2. Ventisca

    Ventisca Crew Chief Contributor

    KyBu made sure of that.

    False. He was trying to splinter a work of art -- and did a poor job of that; just sad in every way... :)
     
  3. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    When you think you know what somebody else is thinking? That should be your first clue that maybe just maybe explaining that to others might just be a little off kilter?
     
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  4. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    uh no, I don't think I have ever thought I knew what a driver was thinking, and go so far to try to explain what he was thinking? to others.
     
  5. dpkimmel2001

    dpkimmel2001 Team Owner

    Can't speak for anyone else but which driver it was didn't have an impact on how I felt about it. I would have been every bit as turned off by the move should it have been my driver at the time.
     
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  6. Revman

    Revman Everything is Great!

    Uh, yeah, if you assert that I am not correct in Kyle's thinking, I think that is exactly what you are doing. Whatevs.
     
  7. Revman

    Revman Everything is Great!

    I don't have a problem with that....this thing still has legs because of the driver involved, however.
     
  8. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Probably why most of your rants are about how everybody needs to pay attention to the car instead of driver's personalities. :p
     
  9. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    Was it disrespectful for drivers 30+ years ago to sell their trophys after the win to afford to race the following week? They probably didnt order several more trophies after the fact either.

    Look, I’m not a KB fan and what folks like SOI keep intentionally leaving out is the face that KB talked with Sam after the race, even posed with the destroyed guitar, and agreed to make Kyle two more. You really think a guy, who is made to sound gutted over the incident, would agree to take a photo op and paint two more? Come on. The blind hate Kyle gets is irrational at times.
     
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  10. Revman

    Revman Everything is Great!

    Bingo. Sam really looks like he is about to kick Kyle's ass in my avi, doesn't he?
     
  11. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    many of us think he has earned every bit of it.;)
     
  12. Revman

    Revman Everything is Great!

    "many" LOL.
     
  13. Ventisca

    Ventisca Crew Chief Contributor

    Sam took the high road -- but he did state his disappointment.:)
     
  14. Revman

    Revman Everything is Great!

    You are part of "many." Congrats. Nice pun BTW.
     
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  15. Revman

    Revman Everything is Great!

    Happily. Still don't know who you like.
     
  16. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Believe it or not, there are "some" of us who don't idolize a single driver.
     
  17. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Kyle Busch win counter guy Contributor



    Details muck up a good story :(
     
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  18. Revman

    Revman Everything is Great!

    That makes you the "real fan" then. Thank you Grasshopper.
     
  19. dpkimmel2001

    dpkimmel2001 Team Owner

    Selling it to make ends meet and destruction are two completely different things in my eyes. We can certainly agree to disagree on that.

    I heard Sam interviewed on Dave Moody's show in the days following that race and it was clear how he felt about it when it happened and afterwards. I'm not relying on a history lesson from any other posters.

    Again, it could have been Driver X. Who it was had/has no impact on my thoughts about it. I thought it was wrong then and time hasn't changed my thoughts on it.
     
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  20. Ventisca

    Ventisca Crew Chief Contributor

    Details.

    "...it was a revered Gibson Les Paul guitar that had been hand painted by longtime NASCAR artist Sam Bass and has become the symbol of Nashville Speedway.

    Yesterday, Bass told NASCAR Scene he was heartbroken to see Busch destroy the trophy.

    "It was stunning, absolutely stunning to see that thing destroyed within seconds of him getting it," Bass told Scene. "It's his trophy, he can choose to do with it what he wants. But I'm not going to lie about it. If he had asked me, ‘Hey, I'm thinking about destroying that trophy guitar whenever I win it, what do you think?' Of course I would have told him, ‘No. Please don't. Let us give you a prop guitar.'""

    https://www.journalnow.com/sports/p...cle_b5a6ebdb-20d8-5f58-a044-2d793ea9e9af.html
     
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  21. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Kyle Busch win counter guy Contributor



    Kyle got a trophy, that must mean he won a race and we got to see a bow and a bit of snark ..... what in the heck more can we ask for ? geeeez it seems all too simple :idunno:
     
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  22. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    “Drivers need to show personality and emotion!”

    *already most hated driver in sport celebrates in a way you disagree with*

    No not like that!!
     
  23. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    Best post I read in a while. and I can relate I coached youth soccer after I myself was done playing at 27, I relate in so many ways. I would have loved to have a coach like you when I was a kid. And yes..... there DOES come a time when you have to let go of things you love doing. It sucks and I dont think I'll truly ever get over it but its being an adult (or so I've been told). I hope your teams love playing the game as much as you say, that is so awesome. As far as as the KDB Nashville celebration that happened many moons ago, I hated it at the time but as I got older it still bugs me but I also find it hilarious that so many people are still pissed about it and bring it up to this day. It's his trophy I myself wouldnt have done that because I love 1st place place trophies but what are you going to do? I remember reading that he broke it because he wanted to give each piece to each crew member but I might be wrong on that.
     
  24. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

  25. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    I have the utmost respect for Kyle as a driver but on levels other than that I am not a lover or a hater.

    If I hated Kyle because he smashed a trophy I would have to hate Tony Stewart for all the stuff he has done. Tony’s actions have been so reprehensible that more than just a few people believed he hit Kevin Ward on purpose causing his death. No one would think that of Jimmie Johnson or Jeff Gordon.
     
  26. Ventisca

    Ventisca Crew Chief Contributor

    peace in the kingdom
     
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  27. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    There has been some good discussion on Kyle Busch and his personality. Changing gears do you or any others have an opinion on combining Kyle’s Nascar victories and champs across all series?

    I breakdown records and accomplishments by series but I’m good if someone wants to throw em all together.
     
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  28. *WEAVER*

    *WEAVER* Team Owner

    I'll get on that next year.
     
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  29. Yogisd1

    Yogisd1 Resident Retard

    I think I know what Kyle was thinking... Pete Townsend.
     
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  30. clarkfn2284

    clarkfn2284 Here to make you miserable.

    The two are not the same. You have two trophies. From there the idea that a person would smash a race trophy wouldn't make sense. However, the idea that a person would smash a guitar ala the way a rockstar would at a concert is comparable. When I look at this I see it this way. KB was looking to mimic a rockstar smashing a guitar. If you do not get that sentiment and it bothers you then you are searching for a reason to be mad. IMO, the artist needs to understand as well that once the piece of art is completed and you are no longer the owner/possessor of the piece it's done. If I buy your art and choose to destroy it that is my decision, as the artist he was paid and this thing was clearly a big misunderstanding. It shouldn't be that big of a deal.
     
  31. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    That probably would have worked out a bit better if the media didn't explain a gazzillion times how appreciated an artist Sam Bass was ya think? Your technical stretching an event that was wildly proclaimed from everything from shocked to idiotic is admirable. I don't remember anyone saying "oh it was fantastic". Some drivers do some really stupid things, this was one of them IMO.
     
  32. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    Gibson is in bankruptcy and Les Paul is dead.

    Did you know that Mr. Bass creates one original hand-painted trophy guitar and has a few others wrapped? Find some close-up pics of Pete ... errr ... Kyle’s guitar.
     
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  33. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    That makes Gibson's even more sought out after, and the one KDB smashed wasn't a production model but hand crafted
     
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  34. clarkfn2284

    clarkfn2284 Here to make you miserable.

    So because the media blew it up and people all over were outraged it's wrong? We live in a world filled with overreaction from meaningless events. At the end of the day it was his to do with as he pleased. If he wanted to take a dump on it, it's his to do so. It just shouldn't be that big of a deal in the grand scheme. Trying to compare the Xfinity Nashville trophy to the Harvey J Earl Trophy, as was done earlier, isn't even the equivalent of the Conference Finals trophies compared to a Super Bowl/Stanley Cup/NBA Finals trophy. It isn't like the guy tipped over the Martinsville grandfather clock.

    Hate to break it to you, but every trophy doesn't have to have significant meaning to every person. I can understand if someone doesn't like KB that this event just adds fuel to the fire, but that is because the people who dislike his antics/actions are looking for a reason. What I have never understood is what KB did had zero impact on any of our lives yet, it was met with incredible vitriol by people. That is a sign of people just wanting to be angry at something.
     
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  35. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    It's because a long history of childish antics like this is where the earned boos come from.
     
  36. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    In the wonderful world of auto racing, winning IS everything.

    Is that a bad thing?
     
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  37. Ventisca

    Ventisca Crew Chief Contributor

    and the Winner is

    Joey Loooo-Gaaaaaa-Noooooooooo!

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    :cheers:
     
  38. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    there is winning and being a jackass about it, and there is winning and being humble about it. I'll take Jimmie for 7 you?
     
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  39. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    Humility and Jackassery have nothing to do with my enjoyment of this sport. I like Blaney and Busch.

    When the battle is over the winner is Big Dog for a week. I go do something else and always look forward to next Sunday.
     
  40. 4tires17gals

    4tires17gals Team Owner

    Fans got annoyed with Jimmie Johnson exposed the deep secret that over driving the car into the corners does not yield to more wins and does not make the driver better.
     

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