Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

I knew it when this very interesting thread was posted by wi_racefan that there were going to be some interesting posts by people who knew nothing about Cleetus McFarland and what he does. They still don't know lol.
Oh course all of them would have said no when Richard Childress called them and offered them a part time O'Reilly ride with the current O'reilly champions right? No thanks Richard I think I'll pass lol. :p
 
I knew it when this very interesting thread was posted by wi_racefan that there were going to be some interesting posts by people who knew nothing about Cleetus McFarland and what he does. They still don't know lol.
Oh course all of them would have said no when Richard Childress called them and offered them a part time O'Reilly ride with the current O'reilly champions right? No thanks Richard I think I'll pass lol. :p
Everyone knows Cleetus.
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Thank God, somebody with some sanity finally stepped in. The approval process has been kind of a joke for a long time and this was just making it all the more obvious. If running three laps off the pace and nearly wrecking yourself about four times at Rockingham qualifies you to run at Talladega. Then what the hell are we even doing? I have absolutely nothing against him, and I hope he gets to do what he wants and succeeds at it, but let's be smart about this and not get him or somebody else hurt trying to prove a point
 
Personally it takes way more skill to race at Rockingham than Talladega. I think Nascar was up against a wall as they only had one race Rockingham to rate Cleetus's skill level so they made a good decision to save their most popular driver in the Nascar series going to a track where a large number of drivers will wreck anyway.
I think the number is around 60% average are involved in wrecks at plate tracks.
 
Personally it takes way more skill to race at Rockingham than Talladega. I think Nascar was up against a wall as they only had one race Rockingham to rate Cleetus's skill level so they made a good decision to save their most popular driver in the Nascar series going to a track where a large number of drivers will wreck anyway.
I think the number is around 60% average are involved in wrecks at plate tracks.
Talladega may require less skill, but mistakes tend to be magnified, and your mistakes have a far greater chance of impacting (pun intended) someone else, or a lot of someone elses. Now maybe we just accept some realities and take it as par for the course in the Truck Series, but I don't think O'Reilly is the place to LEARN how to drive a stock car.
 
, but I don't think O'Reilly is the place to LEARN how to drive a stock car.
I agree, but that wasn't his idea. Nascar's statement didn't just affect Cleetus's ability to drive in the O'Reilly series, but more importantly the team owner that offered him the opportunity in the first place.
Said it here.
 
We have seen enough experienced open wheel drivers come over and struggle and so many moving up take years to develop I think rushing anyone into a cup car is just a bad idea. SVG is a once in a generation global freak talent to have success so fast and even he can’t win on an oval…yet. I wouldn’t put Cleetus or MJ in a real race. At least Frankie Munoz is grinding his way up (too late but I respect him sticking with it). There are solid ways of developing someone as a driver. Social media fame doesn’t seem to be one of them. Practice and more practice.
 
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