Who has won with the most car numbers?

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  1. Cholo

    Cholo Team Owner

    A lot was made of Kurt winning now with nine different crew chiefs. Got me to thinking about how many different cars he has driven (97, 2, 22, 51, 78, 51, 1) and has won in five (97, 2, 22, 41, 1) of them.

    I know no active drivers have taken so many numbers to victory lane but wondered if he holds the all-time distinction as well.
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  2. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    By my count, Bobby Allison won car numbers 2, 6 ,11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 22, 49, and 88. Ricky Rudd has won in car numbers, 3, 5, 10, 15, 26 and 28.
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  3. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    Also, by my count, David Pearson won in car numbers 1, 2, 3, 6,17, and 21.
  4. Cholo

    Cholo Team Owner

    Good info. Well before my time. What I do know is it's been expensive over the years buying all new gear every time Kurt got fired / switched cars.
  5. JohnHill

    JohnHill member of Who Dat Nation

    I always got attached to the car scheme/number. It was a ton easier years ago to get behind drivers. Cause they’d be racing the same car ‘most’ of the season.

    I don’t sense much attachment to some of the teams today. With so many sponsors sharing the season, it’s ‘lost’ something that fans use to have. Just my thought there
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  6. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    I honestly believe that the "sponsor of the week" program that NASCAR teams pretty much have to use now is one of MANY factors that has led to reduced fan interest.
  7. mack

    mack Team Owner

    Yep. If I recall correctly, the first special promo paint scheme was Earnhardts 95 Winston Silver Special Monte Carlo. It was a one off to honor RJ Reynolds 25 years as the series sponsor. After that it seems the flood gates opened for everybody. I miss the days of one paint scheme for the season. It ain't coming back.
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  8. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner Contributor

    Among active drivers Kurt has won with the most different car numbers at 5, Bowyer and Truex have each won with 4 different numbers (07,14,15,and 33 for Bowyer; 1,19,56,and 78 for Truex).
  9. pjmolo

    pjmolo Director of driver attitude adjustments . . .

    Can't imagine anyone having more than 10.
  10. DIDIT

    DIDIT Old School Fan

    Tim Flock won in a car with 3 numbers...301. That is the most I can find. :) Buck Baker won in car number 500B, you could make an argument for 4 digits and he would be tied with Speedy Thompson in car 300C.
  11. MRM

    MRM Team Owner

    Bobby Allison was going to be my guess as soon as I saw the topic title.
  12. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    As Bobby will say, "I was pretty good at driving, but boy I couldnt keep a job."
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  13. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    You have to wonder if and Bobby and Junior Johnson had found a way to get along, if those three consecutive championships (or more) that Cale got wouldn't have gone to Bobby instead. Even though he won races, those years driving for Penske and Bud Moore were kind of "lost years" when Bobby was probably in his prime.
  14. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    Well Jr said if Bobby Stayed with him he would have 7 Championships and not Richard
  15. mack

    mack Team Owner

    Junior johnson himself said if he could, or would have kept Bobby, they would have won more races than the Pettys. Junior, Bobby , Herb Nab with Coca Cola money could have been a lethal combination. It didn't work out, but those three guys are much respected and definitely winners.
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  16. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

  17. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

  18. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner Contributor

    Article is dated two days ago. :confused:
  19. lisa

    lisa Kurt Busch fan

    This is one I hope kurt doesn't beat.
  20. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    And as usual is incorrect. Time of research and date of publication may not be close together.
    They do have Jones in his 2019 ride so why not Newman????
  21. harkin

    harkin SoCal Race Fan

    According to the interwebs Bobby won 5 times in the 28 for Rainer Racing in the Tuf Lon Monte Carlo. One of the wins was the ‘81 race at Riverside.
  22. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    OOPs, I not only missed that one when I typed the original post, I looked at it several times since then and didn't catch my mistake. Shame on me! The car started the year with the Tuf-Lon sponsorship, but I'm not sure the money ever came through, because the car quickly transitioned to Hardees. If you search You Tube, you can find a somewhat funny commercial Bobby did for Hardees, where he runs into a couple of dufus local short track guys at the local Hardees and they don't realize who they are talking to. In typical Bobby fashion, he had five primary sponsors and three car owners over a four year period, 1980-1983).
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  23. harkin

    harkin SoCal Race Fan

    I missed something too and your comment about sponsors cleared it up.

    He only won one race in ‘81 for Tuf-Lon, the Riverside race which was the first race that year.

    After that, his next win in May at Talladega was for ‘The 5 Racers’. Then later in May he was driving for Hardee’s when he won at Charlotte.
  24. OldTimer

    OldTimer Team Owner

    Believe in one year Bobby won with three different car numbers in three different makes...Chevy, Ford, and Dodge.
  25. kkfan91

    kkfan91 Taking a 10-200

    Well someone had to put several hours into this and that person was me. All numbers come from racing reference. Here is every driver who has won with 5 or more car numbers

    Cale Yarborough- 06, 21, 11, 27, 28
    Junior Johnson- 55, 11, 27, 3, 26
    Herb Thomas- 92, 41.5 (yes 41.5) 6, 9, 300B
    Kurt Busch- 97, 2, 22, 41, 1
    Marvin Panch- 98, 92, 20, 21, 42
    Curtis Turner- 41, 44, 99, 21, 26
    Bob Welborn - 49, 38, 4 , 44, 46

    David Pearson- 3, 6, 17, 21, 2, 1
    Tim Flock- 21, 91, 300, 301, 300A, 15
    Ricky Rudd- 3, 15, 26, 5, 10, 28

    Buddy Baker- 3, 6, 11, 71, 15, 28, 21

    Speedy Thompson- 12, 46, 297, 30, 500, 300C, 300, 21

    Jim Pascal (25 career wins 11 numbers)- 80, 87, 78, 75, 49, 14, 44, 2, 42, 41, 43
    Bobby Allison- 2, 6, 11, 14, 22, 12, 49, 16, 15, 28, 88

    Buck Baker- 89, 87, 88, 301, 300C, 500B 300, 502, 300B, 47, 86, 3
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  26. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    I would take some of those numbers from before 1965 with a grain of salt, because many drivers drove for different teams over the course of a year, as some teams and some drivers did not go to all the races, and in the case of Buck Baker, by my count in 1956, drove under as many as six car numbers for SAME owner. That's not quite the same as what guys like Allison, Pearson or Rudd did.
  27. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    K.I.S.S. applies.
    that is picking the fly specks out of the pepper and changing the topic. The original post says:
    Who has won with the most car numbers
  28. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    If Buck were still alive, I’m sure he’d be suitably embarrassed.
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  29. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    I'm just pointing out that there is a pretty big difference between driving basically the SAME car for the SAME owner in the SAME season with different car numbers and winning over several seasons with 11 different car owners. Statistics are nice. Statistics with context are better.
  30. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner


    In fact, the second scenario is / was much more difficult.
  31. Blaze

    Blaze Midnight Rider

    Well for one it’s only listing teams they won with.... Newman hasn’t won in the 6 car yet...

    Jones also isn’t even on here as he only has 1 win. You went to far down if you saw Jones. That was something totally different at the bottom.
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  32. harkin

    harkin SoCal Race Fan

    Pretty much.

    And just one more reason to be amazed at Bobby Allison.

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