Why do a lot of you guys hate plate racing?

I love Nascar racing. Dega, Daytona, Bristol, Martinsville, Watkins Glen, Pocono, Richmond all of'em. All of the tracks are unique. If a person doesn't like a certain race or type of race all is good. Just don't watch it or bellyache about it. Or do, it's their dime.
 
Chess at 200 mph. I think it’s fascinating. Apparently, a lot of people do. NASCAR should do this, NASCAR should do that ...

All NASCAR really has to do is make sure the cars stay out of the fence. The tail-dragging 2018 set-up works for me.
 
Johali said:
I love Nascar racing. Dega, Daytona, Bristol, Martinsville, Watkins Glen, Pocono, Richmond all of'em. All of the tracks are unique. If a person doesn't like a certain race or type of race all is good. Just don't watch it or bellyache about it. Or do, it's their dime.
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I think complaining about plate racing is very much justified.
 
aunty dive said:
Chess at 200 mph. I think it’s fascinating. Apparently, a lot of people do. NASCAR should do this, NASCAR should do that ...

All NASCAR really has to do is make sure the cars stay out of the fence. The tail-dragging 2018 set-up works for me.
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Yeh but they don't always stay out of the fence. I would of thought a racing purist like you wouldn't like the fabricated mess that is plate racing.
 
Johali said:
I love Nascar racing. Dega, Daytona, Bristol, Martinsville, Watkins Glen, Pocono, Richmond all of'em. All of the tracks are unique. If a person doesn't like a certain race or type of race all is good. Just don't watch it or bellyache about it. Or do, it's their dime.
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Agreed
 
I have mixed feelings. Full throttle around the entire track is not racing IMO. Seeing 40 cars running close together at 190 mph for a long time is impressive. I don't like the Big One when multiple cars are crashed out of the race, any one of the 40 can make a mistake. And some drivers consistently do better than others which suggests there is racing going on.
 
Spotter22 said:
I was making a point that the plates havent ruined anything.
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Omg...you are so pro Nascar it's sickening, so you love manufacturered drama, you love watching 20 car pile ups? You like seeing there be more danger because of the cars running in packs?
 
Mopardh9 said:
Omg...you are so pro Nascar it's sickening, so you love manufacturered drama, you love watching 20 car pile ups? You like seeing there be more danger because of the cars running in packs?
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What if his answer is yes to all of those? What does it change? You're pissing in the wind right now. People like to be entertained and they deem different things and different aspects to be just that. Personally, I don't care either way. There are aspects of plate racing I like and there are aspects that I dislike. I don't like when they get single file and hold serve so to speak for 30+ laps, but the last 10 are filled with drama and hard racing.

Also, what is with the overwhelming narrative that wrecks are bad or that if you like the carnage you aren't a real fan? It's auto racing, wrecks happen, big ones, small ones all different kinds. They are violent and they are absolutely a part of the sport that draws a lot of people into it. I honestly couldn't care less if they load a wrecked car back into the hauler. It's part of the business that these guys are in. That's like a business owner complaining about having to pay for credit card processing. It's the cost of doing business.

As much as I hate when a crash takes out my guy, especially when it has nothing to do with him, I find myself audibly yelling when all hell breaks loose, so something is working.
 
I gotta go with what Charlie Spencer and Mr Gnome said. I thought both guys were fair and they both seem sharp to me.
 
clarkfn2284 said:
What if his answer is yes to all of those? What does it change? You're pissing in the wind right now. People like to be entertained and they deem different things and different aspects to be just that. Personally, I don't care either way. There are aspects of plate racing I like and there are aspects that I dislike. I don't like when they get single file and hold serve so to speak for 30+ laps, but the last 10 are filled with drama and hard racing.

Also, what is with the overwhelming narrative that wrecks are bad or that if you like the carnage you aren't a real fan? It's auto racing, wrecks happen, big ones, small ones all different kinds. They are violent and they are absolutely a part of the sport that draws a lot of people into it. I honestly couldn't care less if they load a wrecked car back into the hauler. It's part of the business that these guys are in. That's like a business owner complaining about having to pay for credit card processing. It's the cost of doing business.

As much as I hate when a crash takes out my guy, especially when it has nothing to do with him, I find myself audibly yelling when all hell breaks loose, so something is working.
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One thing you are missing here, it's unnecessary, why have more wrecks that take out your favorite driver plus 15?
 
I love plate racing! I think my favorite race to date was at Talladega when JJ won by .02 seconds.. I wish they would go back to the tandem tho I don't know who the fans are that they say hated but I've yet to encounter any. That race had more lead changes than any race ever.. and that's only counting lead changes at the line!.. and when they let the drivers talk to each other.. genius! I miss those.. two?... Races lol
 
I mean, if my favorite driver gets taken out, it is what it is. I have no real monetary investment in the car. If he was taken out by a wreck I don't have to worry about it happening again to him because he is out. I don't care about the other guys. Oh well, too bad. One race doesn't make the season for any of these guys. I hate that NASCAR fans act like a racecar is this untouchable work of art that should not have a scratch on it and it is a shame that a guy is wrecked and now the car is junk. These owners are loaded and the names all over the sides of those cars are footing the bill for a lot of what we are seeing. Again they know what they are getting into. Cost of doing business.

This isn't the local modified driver with his brand new chassis that just smoked the wall so forgive me if I don't feel too bad for these guys. You can miss me with the unnecessary danger argument too. Racing and race car drivers are a different breed. They are similar to super heroes in the sense that they control out of control vehicles at high rates of speed and the inherent danger that incurs is a part of what they do and they know it. Those guys all know that each time they get into a car it may be the last time they strap in. As a fan when I am sitting low at a track I understand the risk that I take by sitting that low and I understand that on a Superspeedway the risk is even more because of the style of racing. I will never think that NASCAR has my safety in mind when I go to a racetrack. We cannot sit here and talk about the danger of incidents that truthfully happen at a very limited amount (cars leaving the track surface and ending up in the grandstands).

Last year I watched 2 modifieds flip in the same race. I can count on 1 finger how many times I have seen that in my 20 years attending dirt tracks and dirt modified races. I don't think it is time to look at the risk of modifieds.

Some like plate racing, some don't I understand the reasoning for both sides, but it is a style of racing that exists, it takes a crazy amount of talent and if you are not entertained by the fact that these guys drive on the razor's edge for 2/3rds of the race then we will never see eye to eye. When they are that much on the edge guys are bound to slip.
 
To each his or her own on this. I love all racing. Plate tracks give us tight groups drafting to stay in position or taking risks to gain position. It puts on quite a show, but sometimes can be a yawner if there is no movement. I prefer the days when drafting/slingshot moves were capable of being pulled off (a preferred position was being in second instead of leading). Restrictor plates began in 1971 to manage horsepower at the large tracks. I wish they would remove them and run smaller engines (at current plate tracks) but suppose that is too expensive to dictate.

It’s all fun. I know the drivers despise the plates but the glory of winning at Daytona or Talladega is worth the pain!
 
Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the logic behind arguing 'til you're blue in the face about something that we, as fans/spectators/critics, can't change.
NASCAR does what NASCAR chooses to do. We don't have to like it -- it is, what it is.
If you like it, fine. No problem.
If you hate it, fine. Again, no problem.

I'm beginning to think that some of you just like to argue for the sake of arguing. Trying to prove a point when you really have no point.
Yanking each other's chain just to see if anyone takes the bait.
 
Mopardh9 said:
Omg...you are so pro Nascar it's sickening, so you love manufacturered drama, you love watching 20 car pile ups? You like seeing there be more danger because of the cars running in packs?
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OMG you are so anti NASCAR it sickening! You manufacture drama because NASCAR isnt what it used to be 30 years ago and you wet your pants over it. Change happens, get over it.
 
Spotter22 said:
And I'm making sure people know plates havent ruined Daytona
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Spotter22 said:
And its the only one that counts.
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People are entitled to opinions, and that's exactly what you're spouting off. Your opinion. People can dislike plate racing, people can like plate racing. Not everyone has to agree with you, and you couldn't be more wrong when you say your opinion is the only one that matters.
 
Here you go again.

The only way we, as fans,etc. can effect a change is to quit participating. Quit buying tickets, quit watching on TV, quit buying race-related
merchandise. It might take a while, though.
 
Spotter22 said:
OMG you are so anti NASCAR it sickening! You manufacture drama because NASCAR isnt what it used to be 30 years ago and you wet your pants over it. Change happens, get over it.
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Change that isn't for the better, I want Nascar to get better not worse.
 
Larsonfan1995 said:
People are entitled to opinions, and that's exactly what you're spouting off. Your opinion. People can dislike plate racing, people can like plate racing. Not everyone has to agree with you, and you couldn't be more wrong when you say your opinion is the only one that matters.
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Exactly, plate racing was a band aid, it didn't solve the problems.
 
I love plate racing. 4 weekends out of the year it's a no holds barred balls to the wall race and it's anybodies game. I wouldn't want to see it much more than we already do but I absolutely love when they do roll around.


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Three hours of mostly complete boredom, followed by ten minutes of sheer insanity. I'm not much of a fan of ANYTHING that takes the race out of the drivers hands, and restrictor plate racing is the poster child for doing that. In it's early years it was tolerable, but now it's just a big wad of follow the leader that forces you to do stupid things to try to have ANY chance to win the race, thereby causing innocent victims to get wiped in the wrecks caused by the stupid moves. Sunday, my two drivers cruising in a straight line minding their own business, practically within sight of the finish, yet neither one gets there, and it happens almost every damn time! Not much to get excited about in that to me. I classify a good day at a plate race by how many of the cars I follow can actually drive into the garage area after the race. If I wanted to watch demolition derby, I'd go to one instead.
 
Biggreen695 said:
I love plate racing. 4 weekends out of the year it's a no holds barred balls to the wall race and it's anybodies game. I wouldn't want to see it much more than we already do but I absolutely love when they do roll around.


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Yep. My thoughts exactly. And not just yours and mine. Four of the most watched races each year. Anymore there are only three types of tracks that I plan my day/night around..... Restrictor plate races, short track races and races that require right turns.
 
Larsonfan1995 said:
People are entitled to opinions, and that's exactly what you're spouting off. Your opinion. People can dislike plate racing, people can like plate racing. Not everyone has to agree with you, and you couldn't be more wrong when you say your opinion is the only one that matters.
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Thats your opinion and MY opinion certainly is the only one that counts, not yours or anyone else. I like it, its not going anywhere so guess who gets his way? Thats right.
 
Plate racing remains my least favorite form of stock car racing, but in recent years I have grown to appreciate it more than I did previously. This coincides with changes in plate racing dynamics as passing has become more difficult. I don't remember exactly when or why this happened... perhaps the banning of tandem drafting, perhaps other rules changes... but winning plate races today depends upon a constant struggle for track position that begins on Lap 1 and ends with the checkered flag. It's a fascinating and desperate battle to get to the front and remain there. This is why I was glad to see tandem drafting go away.

Plate racing is not a test of traditional car-control racing skills, and that is a detriment to me, but it does test driver skill in other unique ways. And as a viewer, the tension is riveting and compelling. You just can't look away.
 
Larsonfan1995 said:
People are entitled to opinions, and that's exactly what you're spouting off. Your opinion. People can dislike plate racing, people can like plate racing. Not everyone has to agree with you, and you couldn't be more wrong when you say your opinion is the only one that matters.
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Common denominator to this thread & it’s source of agitation
 
I actually love plate racing. Watching those cars drive nose to tail for 180 laps keeps you on the edge of your seat. The one thing I dislike about it is that many drivers will simply ride several seconds behind the leader until roughly 50 laps left. I mean, I can't blame them as there's nothing to gain but everything to lose in racing hard up to that point. Sure, Truex proved last year that stage points matter, but I'd rather be around at the end with a chance to win the Daytona 500 than to accumulate a few stage points.
 
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