SeventyGTX
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They're on pavement, who knows how the cuts and scrapes happened.
Xfinity RACE thread --- Kansas
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They're on pavement, who knows how the cuts and scrapes happened.
StandOnIt
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you missed it.
Blaze
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Uh... I don’t think he said otherwise??
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I have DVR and missed nothing. I saw a guy 30 pounds less than another guy not back down.
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And 30 pound heavier guy checked out early. Reddick is ferocious
StandOnIt
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no arguement there, but Custer came across and ran across his left eye. Looked like Custer wasn't mad to start with, but Riddick went into the hawk is going to eat mouse mode
StandOnIt
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Smithley's story
Not a lot he Can say.....
StandOnIt
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Briscoe and the 98 car are making their presence known late in the season. He probably lost a ticket to Homestead
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this one is 100% on him.the busch thing was 98% on busch
StandOnIt
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HoneyBadger
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LOL Garrett Smithley proved Kyle Busch right.
StandOnIt
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KDB is never wrong, just ask him
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
Kyle was right about these lapped cars and the level of "talent" that's "earning" (buying) their way into NASCAR.
Nobody will ever admit it though.
Blaze
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Difference is, between the two wrecks IMO, here he clearly comes way up the track in front of them. The one with Kyle, the others got around him and Kyle just runs into him. He didn't move in the Kyle accident, here he did.
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
Kyle's still right that guys with no accolades whatsoever shouldn't be racing in the upper echelons of stock car racing.
I've seen Garrett Smithley's excuses. And I'll introduce you to Christopher Bell, a guy who earned it the hard way.
Kiante
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Different situations entirely.
First instance, Smithely held his line and Kyle had the option to go high around him. See Bowman not having an issue getting past him.
This is 100% on Smithley and his spotter. He literally floated up the track and impeded Bell and Briscoe. No excuse to say what he said IMO. Bad communication and lack of awareness is a recipe for disaster.
Slow cars have been around forever and a day, its not going to change anytime soon.
Blaze
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He might be right there sure. But that’s all he was right about that night.
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
People should have to win in order to move up.
Want to race in ARCA? Win in a Late Model. Then win in ARCA to move to Trucks, and so on.
There's always the possibility that some rich kid will luck into a win like Brandon Jones did, but at least Brandon Jones has won in a Late Model, in ARCA, and now in XFINITY.
That was the only part of Kyle's sermon I gave a hot **** about.
Want to race in ARCA? Win in a Late Model. Then win in ARCA to move to Trucks, and so on.
There's always the possibility that some rich kid will luck into a win like Brandon Jones did, but at least Brandon Jones has won in a Late Model, in ARCA, and now in XFINITY.
That was the only part of Kyle's sermon I gave a hot **** about.
Kiante
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Not just any top prospect is going to take any ride.
You think Johnny Davis wants Smithley in his car? Its tough when BJ McLeod, another owner/driver, is in the 4 car. Its a difficult sell and young drivers with no creditability are going to jump on those rides. Smithley usually stays out of the way and brings the cars home clean.
It sucks, but someone has to occupy those lesser-desired rides.
HoneyBadger
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You mean people like Matt DiBenedetto, Bubba Wallace and Corey Lajoie who have won Late Model races?
Quin Houff, Austin Theriault, Andy Seuss, and Blake Jones have run backmarker cars this year as well.
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
Chad Finchum, Kyle Weatherman, Jesse Little, Jeb Burton... I can do this all night. Timothy Peters has raced in Cup for backmarkers for crying out loud.
Blaze
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It should be that way sure, but at the same time you need money and sponsors as well to run a team. If the kid who can win can’t bring money, it will be hard.
I wouldn’t call his win luck. Sure two of the best cars wrecked out but he still had to have TWO good restarts to win it.
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HoneyBadger
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Not too hard to throw a stipulation about having to have some sort of credential to move up.
You can't buy a spot on an NFL team.
Blaze
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Not too hard to throw a stipulation about having to have some sort of credential to move up.
You can't buy a spot on an NFL team.
But you still need sponsors and money as well. I agree it sucks but it is how it is. The best driver in the world may never make it to NASCAR because they don’t have the funding to do so or the sponsors. Sure they can do that, but some people who win still will never get to move up because of the issue.
Football is a bigger team sport. They’ve been sucky players making teams before so.
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
Boo hoo, maybe the sport would finally be forced to address the absurd costs if they can't just cash checks from rich daddies anymore.
Or maybe some of these kids would actually have to cut their teeth some before just going from a Bandolero at 12 and being in NASCAR by the time they're 15.
Those sucky NFL players didn't suck in high school and/or college. Somewhere along the line, they showed potential.
Blaze
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Do you want to make it a certain number for winning? I mean cause sometimes people could luck into a win, and if you want to make it more than 1 win, then well damn Jimmie Johnson would’ve never made it to Cup probably. Sometimes it’s also teams you drive for and a lot of other factors. Probably plenty of great drivers who haven’t won in every single damn series they can in.
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
I don't care if Garrett Smithley lucks into a Late Model win. At least he'll have raced a Late Model instead of going from Legends straight into ARCA because he feels he has "natural ability."
At least Brandon Jones won in Late Models, won in ARCA, and has won in XFINITY.
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Brandon Jones is a ride buyer but he has decent speed and when he doesn't wreck I thought he might one day steal a mile and a half race. Really happy to see him win and break up the big 3 show.
As for Smithley, like I said at the time, Kyle was wrong in that particular situation, but in general his point about the back markers being in the way was spot on. Obviously they are not marquee rides, but I agree with Andy that there should be way more extensive testing and requirements for people to have rides in these major divisions of motorsports. Andy covers late models and short track racing and I'm sure he could name plenty of more qualified guys then Garret Smithley or Cody ware.
As for Smithley, like I said at the time, Kyle was wrong in that particular situation, but in general his point about the back markers being in the way was spot on. Obviously they are not marquee rides, but I agree with Andy that there should be way more extensive testing and requirements for people to have rides in these major divisions of motorsports. Andy covers late models and short track racing and I'm sure he could name plenty of more qualified guys then Garret Smithley or Cody ware.
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
I watched Brandon Jones in a Late Model race at, I think it was Lonesome Pine. He had this giant hauler and a NASCAR-affiliated army working on his car. I thought, "this guy will be pretty hard to beat."
Dude couldn't get out of his own way.
But, like I said, at least he won in Late Models.
Blaze
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One of the best drivers ever in NASCAR didn’t win in all these lower series. What one win back in 2001 Johnson has? But no trucks, or Arca, or any of that correct? So should a 7 time champion never been apart of NASCAR?
I don’t think it should be EVERYTHING, but if you can at least come down to getting wins in lower stuff sure, maybe so then. But how do you figure out where to start? Plus sometimes those rich daddies can still help someone win in those late models by our spending other teams.
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
Two wins in ASA in 1999, one win in the Busch Series before he ever started a Cup race.
Keep those fastballs coming, I'll keep knocking them out of the park.
StandOnIt
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Sure glad that never happens in the CARS series. Where everybody earns their ride and there aren't backmarkers. What a joke.
Blaze
The Midnight Rider
Where’s his late model and truck wins tho? You wanted all of that
so you’re missing things pal. You’re playing fast and loose with your own rules.racingfan7
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Kyle employs ride buyers so he has no room to talk.