Cup RACE thread --- Fontana

AdoubleU24 said:
He absolutely should have warned of a run coming at the very least. I hear Eddie do it every week.

Let's face it, if the shoe was on the other foot Chase would be getting dragged for his "race craft" and lack of awareness, and his spotter too. It's all bull****, but Larson just continues to rack up the W's courtesy of the 9 team's issues and he can do no wrong so whatever.

I do think it's funny how we completely dismiss the possibility that Larson did that on purpose but automatically assume Chase spun himself on purpose in an attempt to get even. Totally not realistic that the same part that broke early in the race from a similar wall smack (causing him to spin), broke a second time.
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...and after the **** show of MY drivers yesterday, I though I was in a bad mood. Chin up, little buck. He is the sport's Most Popular Driver....many more love him than hate him.
 
Spotter22 said:
Its really a difficult position, unless its a clear call you just can't make it, these guys are the best of the best and you cant get in their heads and override what they maybe thinking, sometimes you have to let it go. I've had drivers make moves before anything could come out of my mouth. It is what it is, big time sports.
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What usually happens on the roof in times like that? Does the offended car's spotter look at you, throw his hands up, and say WTF? Does it ever get physical? It's so interesting to me because it's something we know a lot about (spotting) due to being able to eavesdrop, but then again it's so mysterious to me. I just wondered if there are unspoken rules and a sort of etiquette or code up there. Does everyone understand that they can't control the driver, only give info?
 
Dr_B_UNC said:
What usually happens on the roof in times like that? Does the offended car's spotter look at you, throw his hands up, and say WTF? Does it ever get physical? It's so interesting to me because it's something we know a lot about (spotting) due to being able to eavesdrop, but then again it's so mysterious to me. I just wondered if there are unspoken rules and a sort of etiquette or code up there. Does everyone understand that they can't control the driver, only give info?
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This is a great post. I have always been in favor of promoting all aspects of the sport rather than driver personalities. There is so much to this sport.
 
AdoubleU24 said:
He absolutely should have warned of a run coming at the very least. I hear Eddie do it every week.

Let's face it, if the shoe was on the other foot Chase would be getting dragged for his "race craft" and lack of awareness, and his spotter too. It's all bull****, but Larson just continues to rack up the W's courtesy of the 9 team's issues and he can do no wrong so whatever.

I do think it's funny how we completely dismiss the possibility that Larson did that on purpose but automatically assume Chase spun himself on purpose in an attempt to get even. Totally not realistic that the same part that broke early in the race from a similar wall smack (causing him to spin), broke a second time.
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But plenty of people are dragging Larson's racecraft, awareness, etc, and some have taken it further and dragged him as both a teammate and a man, something you have done.


I think if the roles were reversed, you'd be defending Elliott. Just as anyone would be defending their driver.

We don't think it was intentional because it doesn't make sense, and is out of character for Larson to intentionally door a teammate at high speeds.

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Dr_B_UNC said:
What usually happens on the roof in times like that? Does the offended car's spotter look at you, throw his hands up, and say WTF? Does it ever get physical? It's so interesting to me because it's something we know a lot about (spotting) due to being able to eavesdrop, but then again it's so mysterious to me. I just wondered if there are unspoken rules and a sort of etiquette or code up there. Does everyone understand that they can't control the driver, only give info?
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Great question .

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jaqua19 said:
But plenty of people are dragging Larson's racecraft, awareness, etc, and some have taken it further and dragged him as both a teammate and a man, something you have done.


I think if the roles were reversed, you'd be defending Elliott. Just as anyone would be defending their driver.

We don't think it was intentional because it doesn't make sense, and is out of character for Larson to intentionally door a teammate at high speeds.

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Honestly, I think what irritates some about Larson is that he doesn't give a **** without having that attitude or saying it....if that even makes sense. He is enough of a "racer" (whatever that is) to understand that when you are out front, you are going to bump somebody or piss somebody off. The deal is he chooses to apologize. I think it would pacify the haters actually if he would go KFB on somebody. Winners are selfish.
 
AdoubleU24 said:
I do think it's funny how we completely dismiss the possibility that Larson did that on purpose but automatically assume Chase spun himself on purpose in an attempt to get even.
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What you mean 'we', white man? I don't think either of them did it on purpose. Not everyone here has a pro-con position on every driver; many of us don't care about most of them.
 
Revman said:
...and after the **** show of MY drivers yesterday, I though I was in a bad mood. Chin up, little buck. He is the sport's Most Popular Driver....many more love him than hate him.
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Lmao thanks Rev. I was fired up for sure.

After my Titans tanked in the NFL playoffs I was hoping to be dragged out of the depths by NASCAR season. Not off to a great start 😂
 
Posted this on the other thread but just as F1 has to do, I think with the diffuser and new under carriage that we can no longer race on surfaces like Fontana. It's simply too bumpy and these cars are too difficult to handle anymore. I enjoyed the race quite a bit! But they clearly need smooth tracks
 
Mispeedway15 said:
Posted this on the other thread but just as F1 has to do, I think with the diffuser and new under carriage that we can no longer race on surfaces like Fontana. It's simply too bumpy and these cars are too difficult to handle anymore. I enjoyed the race quite a bit! But they clearly need smooth tracks
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Weren't the old splitters closer to the track than the new diffusers are? Isn't this car supposed to have more clearance overall?
 
Revman said:
...and after the **** show of MY drivers yesterday, I though I was in a bad mood. Chin up, little buck. He is the sport's Most Popular Driver....many more love him than hate him.
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But if he keeps that up knowing there are a lot of fans including children listening to him on the radio then his popularity could drop pretty fast with today's social media. I'm not obsessed with Chase like some are, but I really like the guy and I really enjoy watching him race because he is a pretty good race car driver, and I don't want to see his popularity drop so I hope he listens to his rant and thinks about it some. The thing that comes with being popular is that kids look up to you and you become their role model.
 
Nitro Dude said:
If Chases mom was listening in, she may have scolded her little youngster after that rant.:)
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Not quite the aw shucks country boy in the white suit that many of his fans think he is eh? :biggrin: He reminded me of a hysterical Truex after Joey ran his ass by at Martinsville. :idunno:
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Weren't the old splitters closer to the track than the new diffusers are? Isn't this car supposed to have more clearance overall?
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But those cars had so much side force and a giant spoiler they could lean on to hold it through the corners as well as less horsepower. Now they’re running higher power, symmetry and no real spoiler so that car can snap easily around
 
StandOnIt said:
Not quite the aw shucks country boy in the white suit that many of his fans think he is eh? :biggrin: He reminded me of a hysterical Truex after Joey ran his ass by at Martinsville. :idunno:
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Chase Elliott was never the aw shucks country boy. That was Carl Edwards.
 
Pat said:
Sorry, just got to laugh at the language. Sounds a lot like me sometimes. :punkrocke
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I just question why this "journalist" has to post verbatim what Elliott said. Seems unnecessary to me.
 
Nitro Dude said:
If Chases mom was listening in, she may have scolded her little youngster after that rant.:)
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Reminds me of one time playing football in high school. We were coming off the field (I played offensive guard) and the tackle on my side was confused on who he was supposed to block. I grabbed him by the shoulder pads and screamed "just f***ing hit SOMEBODY!" I thought it was on the field only. My mother chewed me out after I got home because she heard it up in the stands. ;)
 
Dr_B_UNC said:
What usually happens on the roof in times like that? Does the offended car's spotter look at you, throw his hands up, and say WTF? Does it ever get physical? It's so interesting to me because it's something we know a lot about (spotting) due to being able to eavesdrop, but then again it's so mysterious to me. I just wondered if there are unspoken rules and a sort of etiquette or code up there. Does everyone understand that they can't control the driver, only give info?
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Generally you get the wtf hands in the air. I've never seen it get physical and for that matter nobody puts their hands on each other but I've seen heated face to face conversations. If you want to get your hard card pulled thats a fast way to do it and yes, there is an understanding that we cannot control what our drivers do so I've told several that if they had a problem dont talk to me go see the driver in the garage and guess what, they never did. Its pretty much a brotherhood up there and we know things happen we cant control so no need getting bent out of shape. Sure you get frustrated but thats human nature. Now in the lower series I've spotted in where you are with different spotters every week Ive seen full fledged fights but not in Cup, Xfinity or Trucks.
 
Spotter22 said:
Generally you get the wtf hands in the air. I've never seen it get physical and for that matter nobody puts their hands on each other but I've seen heated face to face conversations. If you want to get your hard card pulled thats a fast way to do it and yes, there is an understanding that we cannot control what our drivers do so I've told several that if they had a problem dont talk to me go see the driver in the garage and guess what, they never did. Its pretty much a brotherhood up there and we know things happen we cant control so no need getting bent out of shape. Sure you get frustrated but thats human nature. Now in the lower series I've spotted in where you are with different spotters every week Ive seen full fledged fights but not in Cup, Xfinity or Trucks.
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Thanks man. I kind of thought it may be a fraternity of sorts just listening to how the hosts of Door Bumper Clear talk about other spotters. Do you ever listen to that podcast? It'd be interesting to hear your thoughts on them having done it yourself.
 
Dr_B_UNC said:
Thanks man. I kind of thought it may be a fraternity of sorts just listening to how the hosts of Door Bumper Clear talk about other spotters. Do you ever listen to that podcast? It'd be interesting to hear your thoughts on them having done it yourself.
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I've listened to it and I think they embellish a lot for entertainment value but I'm just gonna be honest I have little respect for Brett. If there was one spotter that we had a problem with attitude wise it was him. Dude was always mad about something even during practice. I remember him yelling at a couple of guys because Sadler was on a practice Q run and he thought they got in his was when in reality it was his fault for starting him on his run where he did. Just a dick.
 
Spotter22 said:
I'm sure but word for word? You can get your point across that the 9 wasnt happy without all the profanity
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On the other hand Elliott having a melt down on the radio with many ears listening? Probably didn't bother his fan base
 
Spotter22 said:
I've listened to it and I think they embellish a lot for entertainment value but I'm just gonna be honest I have little respect for Brett. If there was one spotter that we had a problem with attitude wise it was him. Dude was always mad about something even during practice. I remember him yelling at a couple of guys because Sadler was on a practice Q run and he thought they got in his was when in reality it was his fault for starting him on his run where he did. Just a dick.
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I think a lot of the younger fans eat it up, but I listened a bit and came to the same conclusion. More entertainment value and playing to the crowd.
 
Spotter22 said:
Generally you get the wtf hands in the air. I've never seen it get physical and for that matter nobody puts their hands on each other but I've seen heated face to face conversations. If you want to get your hard card pulled thats a fast way to do it and yes, there is an understanding that we cannot control what our drivers do so I've told several that if they had a problem dont talk to me go see the driver in the garage and guess what, they never did. Its pretty much a brotherhood up there and we know things happen we cant control so no need getting bent out of shape. Sure you get frustrated but thats human nature. Now in the lower series I've spotted in where you are with different spotters every week Ive seen full fledged fights but not in Cup, Xfinity or Trucks.
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And the last thing you want pulled is your hard card. No hard card no access to any restricted areas. You might as well just go sit in the bleachers and watch the race and eat popcorn. ;)
 
Pat said:
Everyone knows you don't let the children listen to the drivers radio. Even Kyle Petty uses the F word
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What about Joe Gibbs? :) Personally I think the kids would be the ones that would really enjoy listening to the radios. I know they do at the NHRA events. Maybe there needs to be some rules in affect that penalizes the drivers and crew members when they say inappropriate words on the radio so that the kids can listen in. After all this is supposed to be a family event.
 
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Nitro Dude said:
What about Joe Gibbs? :) Personally I think the kids would be the ones that would really enjoy listening to the radios. I know they do at the NHRA events. Maybe there needs to be some rules in affect that penalizes the driver or crew members when they say inappropriate words on the radio so that the kids can listen in.
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That's an idea. Assign a fine for the various cuss words according to their severity. Take the money collected and give it to one of the deserving charities.
 
Dr_B_UNC said:
Chase was especially spicy on the radio Sunday. Shocked me a couple times.
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It's been snowballing. How many races has it been now dating back to last season where they've had an issue of some sort or on track scuffle that ended up benefitting the 5 team and resulting in a win? That's gotta be frustrating as hell when you were just as fast as him or faster in each of those races. It'll come back to the mean at some point but as a competitor I'm sure that stuff eats at you.

They busted their asses yesterday to fix that car and he had to drive it broken for about 70% of the race just to end up how it did.
 
StandOnIt said:
That's an idea. Assign a fine for the various cuss words according to their severity. Take the money collected and give it to one of the deserving charities.
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The reason we are not allowed to use cuss words here is so that children of all ages can join in and talk about their teams and drivers. I think they should also be able to listen to the crews and drivers talking back and forth. The more people in the family that is interested in the sport the more ticket sales at the track or eyeballs on the tv.
 
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