Jimmy Spencer sure busted RCR.

Because radio communications are monitored and taped you'd think they would have code words. Visual signals are used in baseball, no reason they couldn't do the same but verbally.
 
MOEJOE said:
I hate how a great topic gets ruined by guys that don't take the sport seriously Dude. WTF does Jimmy spencer have to do with Menard tanking a play on purpose?

The real issue here isn't what people are getting at.

It makes NASCAR look like a bunch of dumbasses to stupid to regulate their own sport.
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I agree 100%
 
MOEJOE said:
The real issue here isn't what people are getting at.

It makes NASCAR look like a bunch of dumbasses to stupid to regulate their own sport.
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I'm waiting to see if they actually can. I'm not sure they should take the 3 bonus points away from Harvick, but a $200,000 fine for Richard would go a long way toward preventing flagrant BS in the future. If they hit Menard hard with points or perhaps make him sit out a race, sponsors would help put an end to most of this multi-team crap.

It's cheap, and it's an unfair advantage to organizations that already hold most of the cards.
 
MOEJOE said:
I hate how a great topic gets ruined by guys that don't take the sport seriously Dude. WTF does Jimmy spencer have to do with Menard tanking a play on purpose?

The real issue here isn't what people are getting at.

It makes NASCAR look like a bunch of dumbasses to stupid to regulate their own sport.
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Well to be fair Jimmy tried to bust RCR for making a caution when they needed it, when he's done the same thing before. I think it should be okay to bring up with anyone involved in anyway to the topic has done what it's about.

In this case anytime RCR has done then before HMS has done this before or Jimmy Spencer has done this before. By this I mean making your own caution when needed.


Anyway if they did this well that's not the right thing to do but they've had drivers do this before and not much happen to them so they can't do anything to Harvick imo.
 
I'm not a Jimmy Spencer fan and haven't really seen him since he quit spitting into the camera during the NASCAR pre-race shows on SPEED but what show is he on today that this thread is referring to? I'd like to hear the audio played for myself.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
I'm not a Jimmy Spencer fan and haven't really seen him since he quit spitting into the camera during the NASCAR pre-race shows on SPEED but what show is he on today that this thread is referring to? I'd like to hear the audio played for myself.
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I've not seen it but I think he has his own show now or he is on Race Hub I forget which it is.
 
Is there actual tape of this incident that can be documented as occuring during the time of the race in which the on-track incedent took place? If so can someone send me a link.
I'd hate to think all this drama is due to just what Jimmy Spencer said with nothing to back it up.
As far as NASCAR penalizeing any team over somnething like this they better have full taped verbal and video proof or there just going to be Wzzzzing in the wind.
 
I've never seen a link yet. I looked for a while this morning but couldn't find any audio/video on this. SPEED appears to post 'Jimmy's Thoughts' from time to time but not this one as of yet. I'd like to see or hear the audio as well.
 
FenderBumper said:
I'm waiting to see if they actually can. I'm not sure they should take the 3 bonus points away from Harvick, but a $200,000 fine for Richard would go a long way toward preventing flagrant BS in the future. If they hit Menard hard with points or perhaps make him sit out a race, sponsors would help put an end to most of this multi-team crap.

It's cheap, and it's an unfair advantage to organizations that already hold most of the cards.
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I don't think anything should be done to Harvick. Did the caution help him? Yes it did, but his team still got him the lead in the pits and he still drove away from the field after they restarted the race. Gordon had that same chance. His team failed him in the pits and he couldn't drive to the end.
 
Even if they could prove that all this actually happened and was a planned event by RCR How could they possibly penalize Harvick he did'nt do anything wrong? Menard spun on purpose our not, his crewchief was involved in the alleged radio communication so maybe with alot more proof than just here say they could possibly fine them.......but for what? Drawing a caution? Thats been done hundreds of times over the years.
 
FlFlash said:
Even if they could prove that all this actually happened and was a planned event by RCR How could they possibly penalize Harvick he did'nt do anything wrong? Menard spun on purpose our not, his crewchief was involved in the alleged radio communication so maybe with alot more proof than just here say they could possibly fine them.......but for what? Drawing a caution? Thats been done hundreds of times over the years.
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Not just that, he wouldn't be the first driver ever caught doing it. Maybe doing it to help a teammate, but I remember a few years back Jr admitting on the radio that he spun on purpose because he needed a caution. Did they ever fine him?
 
OOOPS, you qouted me before I took out Menard's name in the last line ;) I'm gonna get in trouble again :p
 
Jeffrey00 said:
I remember a few years back Jr admitting on the radio that he spun on purpose because he needed a caution. Did they ever fine him?
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Dale Earnhardt Jr. was penalized with a loss of 25 championship driver points, a $10,000 fine and probation.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Dale Earnhardt Jr. was penalized with a loss of 25 championship driver points, a $10,000 fine and probation.
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Well there you have it. If they can prove that Menard did it on purpuse then that is what he should be fined. As far as Harvick goes, nothing should happen to him.
 
Jeffrey00 said:
Well there you have it. If they can prove that Menard did it on purpuse then that is what he should be fined. As far as Harvick goes, nothing should happen to him.
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I agree that there really isn't anyway to fine Harvick..however, there is a way to penalize Menard and RCR....
 
If there was proof this happened, Menard and crew would be the ones punished, unless they also can prove Harvick and his crew were in on it.
 
could have sworn teammates have always (more or less) helped teammates. old system(s), new system, next system. no difference boss. only the drivers/teams have changed their names.
 
Ok Im back from work,

And I read everything since I last posted on page 4 or something.

I saw Jimmy Spencers bit on Speed Channels Race Hub. I have it on my DVR still.

This is how it goes:

Menard is something like 80 laps down, the #27 spotter says "The 29 car is leading by 2 seconds, do not need a caution." Menard says, "10-4"

Then later Paul gets back on the radio "Do not need a caution?"
Spotter says "10-4"

Paul kept getting consistent updates on the 24 29 situation.

Then the 27 spotter says "30 to go, 29 in lead, 24 is on his bumper right now."

Then slugger gets on the radio "Check your volt gauge Paul"

Paul says "13.5, WHY?"

Then the 27 spotter says "Clear by 2, 24 and 29 are racing eachother hard right now." Paul says "Stevie, talk to me." 27 spotter says "29 is leading by 3/10th. We are good right now."

Spotter "24 is the leader, Clear by 3 to the 29, 22 laps left to go. 24 leading."

After that RCR Mike Dillion gets on the radio and asks Slugger to go to channel two?

Then Paul says "I think I got a right rear going down."

27 spotter "10-4 I will take a look at it. Just baby it until we find out, we need to finish, back off until your sure."

Mr E says he should have come to pit road because he's so far back it doesn't matter any how.

And that's all I got.
Phhhhewwww
 
Stewart Fan said:
I can't stand Spencer. A guy who never accomplished anything acting like he knows it all.
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2 time Cup race winner and he did what a lot of people wants to do, punch Kurt Busch in the nose!!!:beerbang::boxing:
 
FenderBumper said:
Thanks MoeJoe. I think it's pretty clear what was going on.
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It's 100% clear to me.

Team orders are nothing new and when it happens at Louden there will be outrage - but not by fans of the drivers involved of course ;)

And one last time for the record, Spencer SUCKER punched Busch.
 
As one crew chief said "It's My Job To Cheat It's NASCAR'S Job To Catch Me"
 
fastfordfan said:
As one crew chief said "It's My Job To Cheat It's NASCAR'S Job To Catch Me"
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Well, Spencer did the work and NASCAR is ignoring it. There seems to be a step missing here. :confused:

Since RCR got caught, they clearly were actions detrimental, etc, etc. Maybe NASCAR would rather wait until the sport gets trashed on Leno before doing anything.
 
FenderBumper said:
Well, Spencer did the work and NASCAR is ignoring it. There seems to be a step missing here. :confused:

Since RCR got caught, they clearly were actions detrimental, etc, etc. Maybe NASCAR would rather wait until the sport gets trashed on Leno before doing anything.
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That's the evidence, completely circumstantial? Sets a dangerous precedent when drivers aren't being penalized for stuff they admit they've done.
 
FenderBumper said:
Well, Spencer did the work and NASCAR is ignoring it. There seems to be a step missing here. :confused:

Since RCR got caught, they clearly were actions detrimental, etc, etc. Maybe NASCAR would rather wait until the sport gets trashed on Leno before doing anything.
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I'm betting there's more than you or Spencer know. Well, more than you know. Spencer hates Harvick, it's shown all year ever since Darlington. SPEED has ALWAYS had something against Harvick. SPEED is also very pro-Kyle Busch, which is part of why Spencer has had a vendetta against Harvick for months.

Anyone remember Loudon 2006?

SPEED: "NASCAR told us Harvick was cheating and penalties were coming"
NASCAR: "We said no such thing, Harvick's car passed inspection"
SPEED: "Well, NASCAR didn't tell us Harvick was cheating. But Harvick was cheating, we have no proof of it but he was and we're not gonna retract it."

SPEED should just change their name to "KyleBusch4eva18" so everyone knows where they stand when they report about Busch or anyone Busch has ever clashed with.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
That's the evidence, completely circumstantial? Sets a dangerous precedent when drivers aren't being penalized for stuff they admit they've done.
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Circumstantial? Well, yeah, when compared to someone on the radio yelling "3, 2, 1....SPIN!"
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
I'm betting there's more than you or Spencer know. Well, more than you know. Spencer hates Harvick, it's shown all year ever since Darlington. SPEED has ALWAYS had something against Harvick. SPEED is also very pro-Kyle Busch, which is part of why Spencer has had a vendetta against Harvick for months.
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So your theory is that Spencer is using doctored tapes? Well, Mr Woodward, that would explain the 16 minute gap!
 
Interesting.....

NASCAR statement on Menard: "We haven't seen or heard anything that would indicate the #27 did anything inappropriate in Richmond. We watch closely the activity in each event all season long to maintain a fair and even event for all competitors. We naturally will do the same for the balance of the season."‬
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Interesting.....

NASCAR statement on Menard: "We haven't seen or heard anything that would indicate the #27 did anything inappropriate in Richmond. We watch closely the activity in each event all season long to maintain a fair and even event for all competitors. We naturally will do the same for the balance of the season."‬
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From this we can deduce one or more of the following...

1) NASCAR has their heads in the sand and missed Race Hub.
2) Mike Helton thinks the radios in the cars are for listening to music during long races.
3) Morons can indeed become executives in a large corporation.
4) We're going to see more of this crap.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Interesting.....

NASCAR statement on Menard: "We haven't seen or heard anything that would indicate the #27 did anything inappropriate in Richmond. We watch closely the activity in each event all season long to maintain a fair and even event for all competitors. We naturally will do the same for the balance of the season."‬
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Though if they heard it its not like they can stop him unless they would just let him sit there in the grass for 15 laps
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
SPEED has ALWAYS had something against Harvick.

Anyone remember Loudon 2006?

SPEED: "NASCAR told us Harvick was cheating and penalties were coming"
NASCAR: "We said no such thing, Harvick's car passed inspection"
SPEED: "Well, NASCAR didn't tell us Harvick was cheating. But Harvick was cheating, we have no proof of it but he was and we're not gonna retract it.
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Yeah Speed is full of morons and a$$ kissers. They let people like Kenny Wallace, Jimmy Spencer and Michael Waltrip speak so I rest my case.
 
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