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DanicaFreak said:
Happy with Patrick's driving. She showed she can drive. High hopes
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I did not see the event but it looked like she finished near the back of the pack discounting drivers who were not wrecked. Was she mixing it up near the front at different points and slid back toward the end?
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
I did not see the event but it looked like she finished near the back of the pack discounting drivers who were not wrecked. Was she mixing it up near the front at different points and slid back toward the end?
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She ran in the back for most of the race. Non factor last night.
 
Johali said:
I didn't say that he ran out of talent, I said that he drove beyond it. Talent like anything else has It's limitations.

I stand by my assessment of the situation which is based on facts not sentiment. Jolo bump drafted Harvick in the wrong place and put him in the wall. Period. I'm done with this slice, argue with somebody else.
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I watched a replay of the incident on Youtube and your assessment seems right on to me.
 
Kiante said:
Guys and gals complaining about the Florida heat now, come down in here July for the Coke Zero 400... A reason why its held when the sun goes down because you WILL fry on those aluminum benches.

You might go back up North a couple of shades darker, but it will be gorgeous around here come race day.
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I have never experienced heat like the true Southern 500 used to feature but I was prepared.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Done with this argument... final statement on the subject.... Keelan has more balls than Kevin.
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the 22 rattled his cage, scared him. I thought Harvick lost way too many places for what happened, he came off the wall flat and in control. I could see Harvick getting excited if it was the 500, there is money on the table and losing places costs big money. Running into the 22 after the race and crying about an end of race scrum that didn't matter was more over reaction to being scared. Probably needed to clean out his shorts.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Alright.. well I prefer not to argue... I'd rather discuss, say our peace and move on... not trying to spend hours rambling to people about stupid opinions one way or the other this year lol... I agree Joey probably shouldn't have done that, but hindsight is 20/20... If anything maybe his spotter should have told him that Harvicks side was pushed in.... but it has nothing to do with talent.. he had been doing it all night and Harvicks side being pushed in made it so he couldnt do it to Harvick at that point.... that has nothing to do with talent.. its unlucky circumstance. If Harv doesn't have his side pushed in they get the run and one of them wins the race.

Not sure if this has been said but did no one see Harvick get extremely loose just coming out of the tri-oval while being pushed about a lap earlier? Harvicks car clearly couldnt take the push, because every other car could. My problem is not what happened on track... its the way harvick hit Joeys car with his and then got out with his helmet on. Thats the NASCAR equivalent of leaving your glasses on and sitting down when someone wants to fight u.... maybe next time his wife can come hand him his son before he confronts someone. Lol

....but anyway.. cheers Johali... isn't the beginning of the season wonderful? lol
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Are you calling me stupid or just my opinions are stupid slice? Either way I resent that statement.
 
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Johali said:
Are you calling me stupid or just my opinions stupid slice? Either way I resent that statement.
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Holy crap of course u took it that way..... absolutely not, Im just talking generally... that I don't want to argue with anyone this year about stupid things (eg: opinion vs opinion) that will never be resolved. Its a waste of time.
 
I mean really..Harvick's car couldn't pull, it could only draft, the only way to pass is to push him up to a clear spot and then go around him. Root hog or die time it's restrictor plate racing.:bleh:
 
For the Logano fans/Harvick haters.

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I know I'm jumping in here late and I'm not reading the whole thread but damn, that was some race last night. The 16 and the 41 really hit hard.


I enjoyed the race a lot. Pure entertainment.
 
It is what it is IMO, instead of Nascar saying we made a mistake with the huge tracks and changing them, they pushed on with it, cars got too fast, now it is bumper cars at 200 MPH and more luck than driving skill. I just try to have the right attitude for restrictor plates.
 
Fordracing7 said:
You do understand you can say that if it takes logano more then 14 years to win his first cup championship....
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Driving for RCR didn't help either because SHR and RCR are two completely different beasts. 6 poles in 14 years to 8 in 1 year is damn impressive and I love me some Richard Childress, but Harv was even at some points outdoing his equipment.
 
Cutting HP AND the spoiler will result in the cars going just as fast but with less downforce and that means less control for the driver.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Done with this argument... final statement on the subject.... Keelan has more balls than Kevin.
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I'm sorry, but the biggest pu$$y move in all of racing is to confront another driver while you still have your helmet on. Harvick usually waits for about 20 of his buddies to show up before he picks one of these fights. It didn't look like they were there last night, I guess that's why the headgear stayed on.
 
ToyYoda said:
I'm sorry, but the biggest pu$$y move in all of racing is to confront another driver while you still have your helmet on. Harvick usually waits for about 20 of his buddies to show up before he picks one of these fights. It didn't look like they were there last night, I guess that's why the headgear stayed on.
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#ShieldedHarvicking
 
StandOnIt said:
It is what it is IMO, instead of Nascar saying we made a mistake with the huge tracks and changing them, they pushed on with it, cars got too fast, now it is bumper cars at 200 MPH and more luck than driving skill. I just try to have the right attitude for restrictor plates.
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I agree and as Kenny Schrader once said when asked about RP tracks "I'm just the monkey in the seat." I am not saying RP racing does require a certain skill set but it is obviously an easier skill set to acquire than short track racing. IMO the RP tracks are more of a lottery, the cookie cutters are more about your car and the short tracks and road courses are more about actual driver skill.
 
StandOnIt said:
the 22 rattled his cage, scared him. I thought Harvick lost way too many places for what happened, he came off the wall flat and in control. I could see Harvick getting excited if it was the 500, there is money on the table and losing places costs big money. Running into the 22 after the race and crying about an end of race scrum that didn't matter was more over reaction to being scared. Probably needed to clean out his shorts.
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Honestly I see it completely opposite - Harv seems to like getting into Loganos head. We saw it in Homestead and we saw it on pit road last night - Logano bit pretty hard to whatever Harvick said and had to be "restrained".

He probably slowed up because he was already in a wreck and pretty much in the way even before he hit the wall again. My 0.02
 
ToyYoda said:
I'm sorry, but the biggest pu$$y move in all of racing is to confront another driver while you still have your helmet on. Harvick usually waits for about 20 of his buddies to show up before he picks one of these fights. It didn't look like they were there last night, I guess that's why the headgear stayed on.
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The whole issue of after race skirmishes is BS IMO. In hockey and football you have guys walloping each other in thousands of games each year and most times they shake hands after the game. If a brew ha did happen after the game players would be fined and suspended.
 
The Nature Boy said:
I'd say that RP racing takes a different kind of talent. I mean, if you know how to read traffic, pick a line and move out of that line before it starts to go backwards, you'll do well. It's an underrated skill set.
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Perhaps but it is an underrated skill set but it is one that Jimmy Spencer, Casey Mears, David Ragan, Michael Waltrip, Brian Vickers, John Andretti, revor Bayne and others have mastered. I don't see any future HOF candidates in that group.
 
Wrangler1 said:
Honestly I see it completely opposite - Harv seems to like getting into Loganos head. We saw it in Homestead and we saw it on pit road last night - Logano bit pretty hard to whatever Harvick said and had to be "restrained".

He probably slowed up because he was already in a wreck and pretty much in the way even before he hit the wall again. My 0.02
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Yep, thats the Harvick way, he would be quite content to see Joey make a dumb move and get in trouble
 
The Nature Boy said:
There was a fight after the Super Bowl this year. Bad example.
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I would guess that just the NHL and NFL play a total of 1400-1500 games a year or so and are both full contact sports. I watch many of those games and do not see after game BS as often as I see it in Nascar.
 
Kyle18fan said:
Yep, thats the Harvick way, he would be quite content to see Joey make a dumb move and get in trouble
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This is purely my opinion and no reflection of driving skill. I have met Harvick and as I suspected he is an arrogant a**hole who feels entitled. I have not met JLo but my opinion is that he overreacts to certain situations in order not to be seen as a pushover.
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
Perhaps but it is an underrated skill set but it is one that Jimmy Spencer, Casey Mears, David Ragan, Michael Waltrip, Brian Vickers, John Andretti, revor Bayne and others have mastered. I don't see any future HOF candidates in that group.
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John Andretti has one RP win, ditto for Brian Vickers, Jimmy Spencer and Trevor Bayne. I'll give you Waltrip and Ragan. And yes, I would give you that some guys are good at plate racing but not over all. There are some road racers who are the same way though, do we deny that they have talent?

Dale Earnhardt was the master of restrictor plate racing. There are some guys who are really good at plate racing and it's disservice to them to call it pure luck.
 
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