The simple answer as I see it is that Nascar owns that series also and if in ANY series that Nascar owns, they can and will race any car that Nascar deems legal to run in that series. They run two different year OEM style cars in ARCA as it is. Who knows about Xfinity. They let the yotas run a 2 seater sports car, and probably will let the Chevy's continue to run the Camaros.
There are two teams wanting something and trying to negotiate and none of us know what it is they want outside of wild guesses and prognostications bordering on everything from the inane to the impossible.
Oh, it's pretty easy to see what they want in a general way. They want more control. They are trying to split up Nascar and gain more control for themselves.
While I agree the lawyers will be loaded for bear, exactly what kind of suit would they be pursuing? NASCAR as a monopoly, or something else?
I don't believe they have sued yet. I think it is at the I'm going to call my lawyer stage.
If they're going to court, I don't know what they'd be waiting on. Cases involving sports sanctioning bodies move slower than John Hunter with a flat and seven cylinders. Sign or file but get a move on; I don't see how delaying is giving those two teams any advantage.
My response would be "go for it".
I don't think anyone is suggesting a split, more like a strike, or at least the threat of one.
That is just as farcical.
NASCAR would look pretty funny if no Cup teams showed up for Daytona.
I don't see everyone else putting their asses on the line for Dennis.
That ship sank ten days ago. Right now it looks like at least 30 cars plan to be there, excluding 23XI, FRM, and the last two SHR charters. Those SHR tickets aren't going to sit unused, so 32. There's also usually a decent number of unchartered teams for Daytona, so they'll have a better chance to make the show. More than enough for a race.
And to go further will NASCAR refuse their entry as an open car if a pending lawsuit is in place?
They’d just play last year’s race.
Why would they do that? Non charter teams can race, they have a whole set of rules for non charter teams. Nascar could get the hell sued out of them if they did that.
23XI just signed Bubba Wallace to a multi year contract. That pretty much seals that deal.
Probably not Dennis, but MJ and Polk? Not as far fetched.
No, the ship sailed when the other 13 signed. The teams just have to accept that they are now and probably forever NASCAR's bitch. When the new contract expires, NASCAR will hold a gun to the owner's heads that much faster, knowing that owners don't have a spine.
You have difficulty to phrase "pending lawsuit"? I'm suggesting 23XI files a suit before the Daytona 500. Why would NASCAR allow them on their property? This will no doubt end up in court. No other reason for their reluctance in signing.
Plenty of business goes on between companies that are tied up in court, sometimes without even a judge's order.
I'm not sure how much good that contingency does Bubba. If 2025 rolls around and 23XI still has no charter, where's he going?
Where's he going now if he doesn't sign with 23XI? With him in last year of his contract there were zero rumors about anyone else pursuing him.
So then the big question, if 23X1 misses a race does Nascar give them a waiver.........
Only if they sign Kyle Busch or Chase Elliott.
They'll just insert Jeff Gordon.
Actually it wouldn't bother me one bit.
Teams come and go, rise and fall.
