2024 NASCAR Schedules

If we were to enter Fantasyland Las Vegas makes the most sense for a finale. Great weather, modern venue, good racing. They had the banquet there for years; bring it back and have it during the week after the championship. With F1 in Vegas, the Oakland A's coming, and the Raider's NASCAR should make something happen at LVMS to compete with those interests. NASCAR was the only game in town there for 20 years and now with all these new sports competing for fan money I'm sure attendance will only continue to drop.

Making Las Vegas the sports and entertainment capital of the world is the stupidest thing everyone's doing.

If we were smart, Nashville would be the Entertainment Capital of America, and Wilmington, North Carolina would be the new Hollywood.
 
If we were smart, Nashville would be the Entertainment Capital of America, and Wilmington, North Carolina would be the new Hollywood

This seems like a very regionally biased take. There’s a reason why Hollywood is well…Hollywood. I am going to assume the rich and famous are going to prefer LA’s climate over the swamp ass you get in Wilmington in the summer.
 
They should rotate the championship between all the the tracks that are warm enough to have it at. No reason it should be at the same track every year.
Homestead-Phoenix-Las Vegas-Nashville FGS-Fontana-Charlotte oval-Texas. Some ISC/SMI conflict for sure there, but I've been saying for a bit how great it would if the Championship Race could rotate like the Super Bowl or College Football National Title Game does.
 
Homestead-Phoenix-Las Vegas-Nashville FGS-Fontana-Charlotte oval-Texas. Some ISC/SMI conflict for sure there, but I've been saying for a bit how great it would if the Championship Race could rotate like the Super Bowl or College Football National Title Game does.

If SMI owning a track is preventing it from hosting the finale then the sport has a problem. The NFL doesn’t choose Super Bowl venues based on who owns the stadium.
 
Vegas is booming. With tourists and locals. New 2,000+ room hotels going up annually. The demand is there 1000%.

The problem with Vegas is that it's landlocked, it's in the middle of the desert with VERY little rainfall, and its water comes from a lake that dries up often.

It's literally not sustainable.
 
Homestead is a dump. They need a number of improvements to that facility before they should consider going back there for a championship event.
 
The problem with Vegas is that it's landlocked, it's in the middle of the desert with VERY little rainfall, and its water comes from a lake that dries up often.

It's literally not sustainable.

Fine, I'll bite. Landlocked is fine as people fly/drive in anyway from all directions. Lake Mead is storage; the water comes from the mountains of Colorado and eastern Utah. Development is not the major issue to the US drought; it's using water properly and getting more efficient in what water there is to use. There's a TON of land out here that was deemed good for agriculture because the water was seemingly unlimited. Here in Utah, they are phasing out growing fruit because it uses so much water. Government grants are being paid out for people to rip up their lawns and replace it with drought turf. Urban development (houses, condos, casinos, businesses) doesn't even equate to a literal drop in the bucket compared to agricultural use... farms, golf courses, sports fields, etc. Those are the massive users that need to become more efficient. And they are. Tax credits for reducing water usage, meters, fines for high users, changed public perception.

A new F1 race, a new baseball stadium, a new football stadium, and 20%-50% of sustained population growth every decade... the city is booming massively and given the pace of growth the fact that only in the past few years has water been a massive concern is impressive.
 
Fine, I'll bite. Landlocked is fine as people fly/drive in anyway from all directions. Lake Mead is storage; the water comes from the mountains of Colorado and eastern Utah. Development is not the major issue to the US drought; it's using water properly and getting more efficient in what water there is to use. There's a TON of land out here that was deemed good for agriculture because the water was seemingly unlimited. Here in Utah, they are phasing out growing fruit because it uses so much water. Government grants are being paid out for people to rip up their lawns and replace it with drought turf. Urban development (houses, condos, casinos, businesses) doesn't even equate to a literal drop in the bucket compared to agricultural use... farms, golf courses, sports fields, etc. Those are the massive users that need to become more efficient. And they are. Tax credits for reducing water usage, meters, fines for high users, changed public perception.

A new F1 race, a new baseball stadium, a new football stadium, and 20%-50% of sustained population growth every decade... the city is booming massively and given the pace of growth the fact that only in the past few years has water been a massive concern is impressive.

90% of Vegas’ water comes from the lake, which is drying up quickly because of persistent and more frequent droughts.

All of the climate issues in Las Vegas will get much, much worse, and it will be compounded by the urban sprawl and business/entertainment development you’re bragging about.

Everyone involved is ignoring the warning sirens the same way they ignored the warnings ahead of Hurricane Katrina.

“Our economy is booming and we’re building more houses and residents so climate change isn’t a problem we should think about.”

It’s nice that the rest of us will subsidize Vegas’ “booming economy” with our tax dollars though.

The entire thing of building a metropolis in the middle of the desert and making it the epicenter of culture is beyond moronic. But in typical American fashion, we’ll do dumb stuff then get shocked when all this goes to hell, and then we’ll spent even more billions and trillions saving the city.
 
Lol you know how many cities there are that host concerts at multiple venues without issue? Good grief.
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Lol the Philly sports complex before they tore the Vet and Spectrum down. Still has 3 stadiums today plus an entertainment complex.
 
Homestead-Miami Speedway was fine.

Nobody wants this in Phoenix. We keep doing this in hopes that someone's going to win from 15th on a divebomb in overtime. Just like the penultimate race being in Martinsville in the hopes that someone's going to dump the leader to make it in.

Charlotte is an SMI track so that won't ever happen.

Says you. Phoenix is a great track and place for the finale. Also an almost zero chance of rain helps. Definitely raced a little better with more horsepower but still is a good track
 
90% of Vegas’ water comes from the lake, which is drying up quickly because of persistent and more frequent droughts.

All of the climate issues in Las Vegas will get much, much worse, and it will be compounded by the urban sprawl and business/entertainment development you’re bragging about.

Everyone involved is ignoring the warning sirens the same way they ignored the warnings ahead of Hurricane Katrina.

“Our economy is booming and we’re building more houses and residents so climate change isn’t a problem we should think about.”

It’s nice that the rest of us will subsidize Vegas’ “booming economy” with our tax dollars though.

The entire thing of building a metropolis in the middle of the desert and making it the epicenter of culture is beyond moronic. But in typical American fashion, we’ll do dumb stuff then get shocked when all this goes to hell, and then we’ll spent even more billions and trillions saving the city.

Vegas does a lot of water recycling, which helps alleviate the water concerns. https://www.snwa.com/water-resources/current-water-supply/index.html

It’s still unsustainable and I don’t get the appeal of living in the desert but it doesn’t seem as apocalyptic as you make it seem.
 
Making Las Vegas the sports and entertainment capital of the world is the stupidest thing everyone's doing.

If we were smart, Nashville would be the Entertainment Capital of America, and Wilmington, North Carolina would be the new Hollywood.
Chill man. Absurd take, the amount of hotel rooms and easy access to the airport is perfect
 
Las Vegas is getting overrated for sports and entertainment and deserves the finale but Phoenix isn’t the track for the finale. Should be the in the Round of 8 instead.
 
Las Vegas is getting overrated for sports and entertainment and deserves the finale but Phoenix isn’t the track for the finale. Should be the in the Round of 8 instead.
To be clear, as much as I don’t like this building the desert up thing, it should host the finale.

I’ve even argued Texas should. Sure it’s a **** track, but it’s a huge market that does championships well.

Homestead is a great venue for the finale, though Florida has its own problems too. I don’t think the opener and finale should be on the same coast, and I’m honestly becoming in favor of opening the season in Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
 
Plenty of tracks that should host the finale on rotation.

California, Las Vegas, Phoenix, Nashville, Charlotte, Homestead-Miami, maybe Texas even I suppose.
 
Having gone to 3 Vegas races and 2 Phoenix races including the Championship race last year, I have to say Vegas is by far the better experience. The traffic and facilities are massively better than Phoenix and the Neon Garage sets the standard for a great pre-race time. Weather in the fall either place means the race won’t get rained out. But Vegas knows how to put on a show and Phoenix does not. The Championship Race had no feel. Every race at Vegas does.

I don’t even like Las Vegas but a location that highlights and features what a Championship event should feel like…it has it.

Just want to see the track tweaked a bit. Neither track creates an exciting race imho but Phoenix shorter track is a tiny bit better. Fix em both. Tired of seeing Logano always win.
 
Having gone to 3 Vegas races and 2 Phoenix races including the Championship race last year, I have to say Vegas is by far the better experience. The traffic and facilities are massively better than Phoenix and the Neon Garage sets the standard for a great pre-race time. Weather in the fall either place means the race won’t get rained out. But Vegas knows how to put on a show and Phoenix does not. The Championship Race had no feel. Every race at Vegas does.

I don’t even like Las Vegas but a location that highlights and features what a Championship event should feel like…it has it.

Just want to see the track tweaked a bit. Neither track creates an exciting race imho but Phoenix shorter track is a tiny bit better. Fix em both. Tired of seeing Logano always win.

"Old Vegas" with the low banking would probably be amazing with this new car.
 
There's a perfectly fine short track on the property. It's just a shame this car sucks on short tracks, 1-mile tracks, road courses and anything that isn't a 1.5-mile brob.

I have only seen one event on the bullring and it was pretty lackluster. Hoping for a better show this October. ARCA, btw. Idk about local divisions but I'd love to catch something there on a Saturday night
 
I proposed Charlotte here once and was told that it was way too cold in Charlotte to host the finale.

The World of Outlaws Finals at Charlotte could be a conflict, but I think Charlotte wouldn’t be a bad place to host it, I think as long as the west coast gets its racing.
 
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