Greg
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Oh well
But I did get use my Fort Worth joke so it was still good for me even if some faking was involved.
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But I did get use my Fort Worth joke so it was still good for me even if some faking was involved.
racingfan7
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42,000 seats is a lot more than 25-30k that Iowa Speedway has.
It’s not THAT difficult or costly to bring in temporary seating like Nashville Superspeedway or North Wilkesboro Speedway have done.
SoCal for sure next year
Blaze
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More like Forth Worthless Speedway, am I right
racingfan7
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The charter system is great and all but they could incentivize open cars showing up to the track & having more DNQ’s once in a while as well.
FLRacingFan
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Circuit Gilles Villeneuve (Montreal) and the Clash at Estadio Azteca would be big moves.
Not so sure where the SoCal race would be in that case. Just don’t think Irwindale can be built up for that unless it’s all temporary seating.
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Laguna Seca please. Cup cars down the corkscrew would be amazing.
Here's a map of every track from 2023 in Southern California (or everything from Fresno south I don't know where the line is.) Green means they raced last year.
Obviously if we limit it to paved existing tracks you get the following:
The LA Coliseum (recent Cup history)
Irwindale Speedway (west series)
Long Beach Street Circuit (indycar)
Orange Show Speedway (west series)
Thermal Club-road (indycar this year)
Blythe Speedway
Buttonwillow Raceway Park- road
Kern County Raceway Park (west series)
Willow Springs International Raceway-road (actually had 2 Cup races in the 1956 and 1957 seasons but last NASCAR race was a West race in 1986)
Chuckwalla Valley Raceway
My guess is you just go back to the Coliseum because not a single one of these other places is a Cup facility or has NASCAR history at it.
I think that's on the border of being Southern California
racingfan7
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NASCAR needs a minimum capacity for its series racetracks.
Cup Series venues - 30,000 minimum
Xfinity venues - 15,000 minimum
Truck venues - 15,000 minimum
Thus, Irwindale would need to bring in a lot of temporary seating, JMO.
Cup Series venues - 30,000 minimum
Xfinity venues - 15,000 minimum
Truck venues - 15,000 minimum
Thus, Irwindale would need to bring in a lot of temporary seating, JMO.
Neither did the Coliseum until two years ago.
If it's only going to be for a year, Laguna Seca or Long Beach. They're mostly ready already, excluding maybe pit space. Much as I dislike street courses, LB is better than the Coliseum for a points race. I'd prefer the 'heats and main, no competitive pit stop' format not be used at the level of NASCAR's national series.
I have no suggestions if it's going to be longer than a year until Fontana is ready or abandoned.
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Nowhere else cup ready in the state really other than the Long Beach circuit
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IMO the clash needs to be on an oval, but that's just one guys opinion.......
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Technically central Cal I think. I thought it was even further north, but it’s not. Think it would really be stretching the definition of SoCal though.
That's my guess too. They can set that track up in a week and it's ready to go.
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I just have no desire to see Cup cars race at Laguna Seca or Long Beach ( especially if IndyCar loses the race which could happen. Thats one of the premier races in north america) I cant find the fascination of wanting to watch Cup cars race at IndyCar venues. I hope the short track in Fontana comes to fruition, I would bet that be a game changer for racing in SoCal.
As much as I abhor Long Beach, if there's going to be a points race in SoCal and not just an exhibition, I prefer it over the LA Coliseum's layout. If a facility can't hold a full 36-car field on the track, with pit stalls and competitive stops, NASCAR shouldn't be points racing there.
Phelps said nothing about having a points race in SoCal. He left that part open.
I don't care what they do with exhibitions. Run 'em around orange cones in a Save-Mart parking lot in Ventura, with the drivers in grocery carts and the crew chiefs pushing. 8 groups of 5 drivers each, group winners advance to the main. Rearrange the cones for the main and swap carts.
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JMHO: NASCAR should partner with one of the tribes in Southern California and run a temporary circuit anchored by or sponsored with a casino. The San Manuel or Sycuan tribal groups would likely be able to finance it. Not saying it's the most ideal thing ever, but it's better than trying to put 15K of temporary stands into Irwindale (which I also doubt at having sufficient pit space).
Naitch
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I wonder if they could build a temporary track in the parking lot at Dodger Stadium.
Weaver seems to point to Southern California being Long Beach with Indycar or Kern County because they can bring in more seating.
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NASCAR expects two international Cup races, return to Southern California in 2025
Check out the latest from Matt Weaver on nascar, covering NASCAR's NASCAR Cup Series and more at Sportsnaut.
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Weaver seems to point to Southern California being Long Beach with Indycar or Kern County because they can bring in more seating.
NASCAR expects two international Cup races, return to Southern California in 2025
Check out the latest from Matt Weaver on nascar, covering NASCAR's NASCAR Cup Series and more at Sportsnaut.
Long beach would need major changes to host Cup. The fountain turn and turn 11 specifically. That track is just too narrow anyway.
racingfan7
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Weaver seems to point to Southern California being Long Beach with Indycar or Kern County because they can bring in more seating.
NASCAR expects two international Cup races, return to Southern California in 2025
Check out the latest from Matt Weaver on nascar, covering NASCAR's NASCAR Cup Series and more at Sportsnaut.
Kevin Harvick’s Kern County Raceway Park would be a huge hit for NASCAR if they could bring in temporary seating.
FLRacingFan
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Kern County is another seemingly ambitious idea at a place that’s pretty out there, but I guess whatever temporary venue they use in SoCal until Fontana is ever rebuilt will be a significant compromise no matter what.
racingfan7
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The LA Coliseum should be considered more as a regular season race option, but we’ve seen on here the reasons why they shouldn’t.
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Great to see they're optimistic about Canada, whether it be Montreal or Ontario. The Great White North is beautiful and a nice respite from the heat around mid-summer.Weaver seems to point to Southern California being Long Beach with Indycar or Kern County because they can bring in more seating.
NASCAR expects two international Cup races, return to Southern California in 2025
Check out the latest from Matt Weaver on nascar, covering NASCAR's NASCAR Cup Series and more at Sportsnaut.
I'd love to see Cup at Mosport. Between Trucks and IMSA, I don't recall seeing a bad race there.
FLRacingFan
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It would be kinda clunky at those speeds, but I think the race track could work in its current configuration. Gen7 has a shorter length and wheelbase than modern Indy cars. But it would make for pretty tough logistics since it’s already such a crowded paddock area.
Bigger yet, what would be in it for IndyCar to have NASCAR join the card at one of their blue ribbon events, and has anyone secured the other 50% stake in GPLB from Kevin Kalkhoven’s estate yet?
racingfan7
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I think it’s kinda weird how they removed the Bristol Dirt race. Go back and look I don’t remember whining about how bad it was. 
Naitch
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Kern County seems really ambitious. It’s around 115 miles from LA, which is farther than NYC is from Pocono and Boston is from Loudon. Hell, Charlotte is closer to Darlington than LA is to Kern County.
racingfan7
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Kevin Harvick’s Kern Raceway is probably not viable unless they put $$$ into it, but there is room to expand & grow the facility. They did just start a CARS Tour West.
Bakersfield isn’t that small of a town (400,000+) & they’ve hosted Craftsman Trucks before at Mesa Marin.
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I think it’s kinda weird how they removed the Bristol Dirt race. Go back and look I don’t remember whining about how bad it was.
I wasn't a fan of it, if they want a dirt race let's do it at a dirt track, not take away a short track race which we don't have enough of.
FLRacingFan
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If they took a race away from almost anywhere else it probably would’ve had a much better reception. Bristol is one of maybe five tracks that are more or less regarded as untouchable in the NASCAR world. If they turned a Kansas race into an Eldora weekend it wouldn’t be as controversial.I think it’s kinda weird how they removed the Bristol Dirt race. Go back and look I don’t remember whining about how bad it was.
A mile and a half dirt track?
A mile and a half dirt track?
There was one once. I resulted in at least 2 deaths. Obviously there's nothing even close to that size today. Also that would not race good.