23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

NASCAR flinched?

All I got out of that was that nascar changed some wording to allow them to compete as an OPEN team. Which I guess I didn't even know existed because I thought the plan was to compete as an open team next season if this fell through in the first place?

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Perhaps the sanctioning body’s newest lawyer suggested that freezing the plaintiffs’ teams out might be seen as an example of NASCAR’s “monopolistic bullying”.

Just a thought.
 
All I got out of that was that nascar changed some wording to allow them to compete as an OPEN team. Which I guess I didn't even know existed because I thought the plan was to compete as an open team next season if this fell through in the first place?

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Open teams have to sign a contract that has the same 'no lawsuits' clause as the charter teams. That's what changed this morning. The contracts 23FR signed are as open teams but without that clause.
 
Already surrendered their charters. If they race next season will be as an open car.
This hasn't been proven or decided yet. As of right now they aren't chartered teams, but they have appealed and the appeal hasn't been heard or a date set for the appeal.
 
Perhaps the sanctioning body’s newest lawyer suggested that freezing the plaintiffs’ teams out might be seen as an example of NASCAR’s “monopolistic bullying”.

Just a thought.
Or good faith that Nascar does want the teams in the sport and wants them to continue to compete while the contract dispute is being settled.
 
That doesn't read as much like a real concern for what 23XI and RJR are trying to do as it sends the message of hoping they fail so Denny haters can blame and laugh at him.

These are not stupid people who created this litigation. They are not going into this legal action blindly but feel they have a legitimate opportunity to make things better for all teams because how this ends up will directly affect all teams and not just 23XI and RJR. It would seem that is something race fans would support.

In reading the various responses to this thread find so many of those who criticize, or gloat over possible failure of this effort, is done mostly because of the, "hate Denny factor."
Maybe if I had ever heard of any other team having this issue.. there are only 2 teams who have a problem and I can't help but think this was the intention behind Denny starting a team in the first place.

This reminds me of when I tried to get into a laborers union and was told the only way I could was to have them send me into a company that isnt unionized and working toward unionizing it. You know what happens then? If they fire you or try to not hire you they get sued by the union. Sure unions are great but sneaky underhanded tactics like that are not something I can get behind.

If I'm wrong I'll say it. I don't wish anything bad on them I just don't see the merit in their claims when we have all these other teams who don't have a problem with it. If they started the team with this intention that's no good. They're toying with people's income who aren't millionaires. What happens to the guys at the shop if this team goes under? Because I couldn't care less about how much money goes on the pockets of Michael Jordan and Denny Hamlin make.
 
Has this been even hinted at outside this discussion? It's common for me to miss stuff, especially on other social media.
I don't think so. It just seems odd to me that they didn't have this problem when they first came into the sport. They got their charters and ran their seasons. Now when it's time to re-sign all of a sudden they have an issue with the fact they weren't given time to negotiate? What about the last 2-3 years? I'm probably wrong.. but I just have a feeling this was their intention since before deciding to start a team.
 
Didn't Nascar just set precedent for the other Open teams by allowing 23XI/FRM to compete without the no suing clause?
 
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