#24 Team Being Investigated For Tape Gate

Musrat#2 said:
That's a little excessive don't you think?
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No.

Cheating denies other contenders the full ability to earn points to advance to the next round and onto Homestead for the finale, as they are competing against Cheaters who are seeking performance gains by cheating.

Removing Cheaters from the Chase is a punishment that fits the crime. Cheating was intended to advance the Cheater in the current "Playoff" format, thus eliminating other contenders who were not cheating.

It is absolutely a righteous act to remove cheaters from the Chase to preserve what little integrity is left in NASCAR racing and the Cup Championship. :)
 
2 Sweet said:
How dumb is it that every single scandal/controversy/violation automatically gets the "-gate" suffix nowadays?
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And its too late for me to delete my "tapegate" post :(
 
LewTheShoe said:
Jackman, for good reasons or bad reasons, Nascar has always declined to release the details you are asking for regarding technical infractions. With all due respect, that policy is completely independent of the fact that your favorite team and your favorite driver are being penalized today. Where was your righteous indignation after Darlington? Or Michigan? If Rick Hendrick wanted to debate the details, he'd have the opportunity, but apparently he didn't see the need.
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I have EXACTLY the same opinion about the penalties regardless of who gets the penalty. I was just as interested in the Darlington penalties, but because that is a penalty that had been issued before, and from personal experience, there was at least some understanding of what the teams were trying to accomplish. This situation REALLY caught my attention, because the information was vague even by NASCAR's lax inconsistent standards, and I am not aware of ANYONE ever being penalized for this type of infraction before. Yes, I have a working rudimentary understanding of aerodynamics, but I am having a hard time visualizing what can be done with tape to a spoiler on a high speed race track that could an effect for more than about a half a lap. I haven't worked on anything like the Gen 6 cars, but back not that many years ago, we used a LOT of tape in a LOT of places to smooth airflow on the car. What made this instance different? All I'm asking for is a simple explanation. As for what NASCAR does and doesn't do, they seem to make it up as they go. Back in the day, Dick Beaty used to lay offending parts out on a table for other teams to look at, and do we all remember when they tore down the Penske qualifying engines for the whole world to see, when they weren't even illegal? As for why Rick Hendrick, who has a history of challenging and winning appeals is not in this case, my guess is he understands all too well that regardless whether this "magic tape" helped that race car one tiny bit, if NASCAR decides you can't have it there, then you can't have it there. I'm not arguing the penalty, even if I think it is much ado about nothing, I'm miffed that NASCAR can penalize teams without a clear explanation of the infraction. It might be a "minor" infraction, but depending on whether the 24 advances to round two, it could be a "major" penalty."
 
ToyYoda said:
I think a lot of it too is that GM has been so dominant for so long, that if somebody other than a Chevy team shows some dominance, it's assumed there's some treachery afoot. 34 of the last 41 championships have been won by GM teams, so I guess Chevy dominance is just accepted as the way it's supposed to be.
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Well thats cause thats the way it is, I always thought they should have handed out Junior or lightweight championship trophies to the non chevy teams.
But I do appreciate Mr H reaching out to Mark Martin after Ford thought they got all he had. Amazing thing how a bankrupt Chevy team almost won him the Daytona 500, and that time the almost was actually an almost legal win.

I think we got used to it, and we should have had compassion on Martin sooner. If he had got him in a Chevy just two or three years sooner he might have been five time. It may have even cheered up @AndyMarquisLive. Marks boy might have stuck with it as well, if he knew a chevrolet would have been there in the future.

I reckon that this year is character building but in typical fashion it will just make chevrolet more invincible. I am 55 years old and and Chevy will be geared up to run off 40 more great years and I will be set for life.
All yall Toyos and. Edsel types better take a lot of pictures, and get the souvenirs while you can, before the annihilation resumes. Well maybe if Jimmie doesn't break your hearts again.

The Chevy teams needed to stop laying the pipe for a year, to realize how good things have been. Then back to being just the humble best, you know the essence. The Apple pie, the Coca Cola, and Chevrolet all the things that the non aflictted people love.
 
Stacy said:
No.

Cheating denies other contenders the full ability to earn points to advance to the next round and onto Homestead for the finale, as they are competing against Cheaters who are seeking performance gains by cheating.

Removing Cheaters from the Chase is a punishment that fits the crime. Cheating was intended to advance the Cheater in the current "Playoff" format, thus eliminating other contenders who were not cheating.

It is absolutely a righteous act to remove cheaters from the Chase to preserve what little integrity is left in NASCAR racing and the Cup Championship. :)
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Yep ......... remove the chosen one from the chase .... no questions asked
 
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