Championship Fatigue...

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by oldschoolnascardude1, Nov 18, 2019.

  1. DanicaFreak

    DanicaFreak Green monster

    then dont disguise it as a debris caution.

    lying about why the yellow is thrown is manipulating the outcome,
     
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  2. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    They dont do it to give an advantage
     
  3. DanicaFreak

    DanicaFreak Green monster

    so sayeth you.
    debris caution....with a favorite leading....draw your own conclusion.
     
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  4. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Kurt Bush would probably argue that point at Auto Club.
     
  5. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    I'll need a refresher on that one.
     
  6. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    If the favorite is leading why throw a caution lol
     
  7. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    These two statements are in conflict.

    Which is it?
     
  8. DanicaFreak

    DanicaFreak Green monster

    say they have tires about to go away, gas level...etc...
     
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  9. DanicaFreak

    DanicaFreak Green monster

    good point.
    TO me favorites played.
     
  10. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    The idea that NASCAR wanted Patrick to succeed is common knowledge and makes common sense.

    If the sanctioning body manipulated events for the benefit of the 3 or anybody else, I wonder why they didn't get her a win or two.
     
  11. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    In other words you are just making stuff up
     
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  12. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    They were busy giving Jr a Championship, couldnt fit in Patrick too
     
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  13. DanicaFreak

    DanicaFreak Green monster

    Nope. Big Was known to try and make his own cautions and not get penalized for it.
     
  14. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    a lack of talent to drive stock cars was one of them
     
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  15. DanicaFreak

    DanicaFreak Green monster

    not going down that rabbit hole.
     
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  16. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    Well its a surprise we're not because this thread has played all my favorite songs.... points systems, playoffs, race manipulation, and conspiracy theories.
     
  17. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    :punkrocke
     
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  18. jaqua19

    jaqua19 Team Owner

    That's the issue. So the sport isn't allowed to have fans outside of the South?

    I enjoy watching SASCAR, as do others not from the south..who says it has to be southern? Is it in the acronym? What does it stand far anyway?

    Southern Association for Stock Car Auto Racing

    ****, you have a point, I guess... Oh wait...

    It's

    NATIONAL Association for Stock Car Auto Racing . Nascar is not conceptually a southern sport. It's just where it started. It is no more a southern sport than the NFL, NBA, etc. That stereotype needs to die.



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  19. jaqua19

    jaqua19 Team Owner

    Waltrip and Earnhardt aren't new guys.

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  20. be9ak7ts16

    be9ak7ts16 Johali Lives

    They were when they were rookies and I watched them enter the sport.
     
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  21. be9ak7ts16

    be9ak7ts16 Johali Lives

    The South was the birthplace of NASCAR. NASCAR was formed in the South by southerners. The majority of the drivers were from the South. There was the Alabama Gang, not the PennsylvaniaGang. NASCAR starting taking away race dates from long time tracks. I’m not from the South, I’m from Michigan. I love this sport I just hate what it’s turned into.
     
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  22. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    I believe that is one of those oxymoron's love the sport, but hate it.:D I'm sounding like the Ft,Worth Dallas guy, but contrary to what some believe, it was the southeast and mainly Florida where the Nascar series started, and then they went of all places north from there and west
     
  23. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    NASCAR has been running all over the country since its inception. You just didnt know it because you didnt have the internet to tell you to hate it.
     
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  24. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck


    :D:D:D:p
     
  25. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    I'll give NASCAR credit with the stages, I haven't recalled many phantom debris cautions in a long ass time since the stages were introduced that I can recall personally.
     
  26. be9ak7ts16

    be9ak7ts16 Johali Lives

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  27. Revman

    Revman 2X CHAMPION

    This. Right here.
     
  28. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

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  29. RacerrecaR

    RacerrecaR Orange cone

    2 wrongs don't make a right
     
  30. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    Never said it was right in the first place did I? I'm just saying you don't see NASCAR throwing fake water bottle cautions because the whole fickle fanbase is bitching about the racing getting strung out.
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2019
  31. be9ak7ts16

    be9ak7ts16 Johali Lives

    If I have to explain it you’ll never get it.
     
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  32. RacerrecaR

    RacerrecaR Orange cone

    You gave NASCAR credit for the stages because they make up for the phantom debris cautions. So, that would constitute a "right". Maybe I should have said that a polished turd is still a turd; competition cautions of any sort are detrimental to organic strategy.
     
  33. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    Yes, because the fanbase is about as fickle as can be about the racing and especially long green runs so NASCAR threw phantom debris cautions because they were sick of Johnson dominating. You probably won't agree, but I sure think so.

    I don't see how the stages are hurting anything to fuel strategy races or anything like that of the like in the Cup Series anyway unless you have a bigger point to be made. I watched a fun fuel mileage race that Tyler Reddick stole the show at Las Vegas just a couple months ago in Xfinity. Trucks are the only series where fuel runs may be effected.
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2019
  34. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    Regular season champion earns a birth in the final 4 for sure.
     
  35. DanicaFreak

    DanicaFreak Green monster

  36. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    The stages ARE phantom debris cautions. The difference is they’re telling you now when it’s gonna happen. ;)
     
  37. be9ak7ts16

    be9ak7ts16 Johali Lives

    I was just going to post that stages were PC names for competition cautions.
     
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  38. Rick

    Rick 2015 & 2017 RFYFL Champion

    This reminds me of a jerk fan who kinda took me out of the clouds after we watched our guy win in person.
     
  39. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    So NASCAR didnt race up North or MidWest or out West eh? Just in the South? How long did you say you've been watching?
     
  40. DanicaFreak

    DanicaFreak Green monster

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