pjmolo
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Whatever barrier they set up to separate Turn 1 from Turn 6 is going to take a beating.
Chicago - 2023
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Whatever barrier they set up to separate Turn 1 from Turn 6 is going to take a beating.
StandOnIt
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They said man would never fly and the earth is flat. There is a lot of that around here.
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Not flat?
Ridiculous. I’ve done my research and in my opinion, it’s flat.
Ridiculous. I’ve done my research and in my opinion, it’s flat.
pjmolo
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kkfan91
Crab Cakes and Sprint Cars....PA does 1
The world is actually on the back of a giant boxer
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I miss that place. Watching Kansas today, rubs it in
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Well..... cant say I am surprised. In the local papers, the coverage has been negative to say the least.
AndyMarquisLive
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This is a one and done event.
Which is a shame. I'm all for a street race. But Chicago clearly does not want this.
They probably need to just call this off and go back to Road America.
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Sounds like confrontational civic politics. Not unusual.
The city signed a 3 year contract: https://www.nbcchicago.com/investig...details-about-race-coming-to-chicago/2910896/
The city signed a 3 year contract: https://www.nbcchicago.com/investig...details-about-race-coming-to-chicago/2910896/
Charlie Spencer
Road courses and short tracks.
If the city wants out, I'm not sure how wise it would be for NASCAR to insist on the full three-year run. Chigaco would probably do the bare minimum required, since it wouldn't be interested in the success of the event. Disgruntled citizens and disappointed attendees may reachnegative opinions of the body. Potential host cities may wonder about getting the short end of the relationship stick.
Still, NYC and Boston don't mind roping off 23.2 miles every year. Miami and Vegas seem agreeable, but there's those pesky local tracks that will want to keep their existing dates.
AndyMarquisLive
I love short track racing with all my heart
That doesn't mean dick.
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Taxpayers could always fund a buyout and the current administration could blame the previous mayor and council.
Standard civic politics.
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Hush. The adults are in conversation.
Charlie Spencer
Road courses and short tracks.
Why bother? Treat NASCAR like dirt next year and see if it backs out on its own.
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I’ll do what NASCAR would do ... check with my team of $1000 per hour lawyers and get back to you.
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Apples to oranges comparing the couple hours that NYC and Boston shut down for marathons to Chicago shutting down for days.
Charlie Spencer
Road courses and short tracks.
I'll take your word. I have no clue how long it takes to set up or tear down the marathon courses.
Speedbowl14
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An existing, tested street course should've been the course NASCAR took. Belle Isle or Toronto would've been perfect.
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Pintys runs Toronto, be great to see cup there as well. But then I would want Canadian tire motorsports park
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All nascar cares about is the market, so much so that I think how the race turns doesn't matter to them.
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Nobody is as stupid as you make these people out to be.
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I guess is depends on what your definition of stupid is. Chicago is CLEARLY a case of chasing a market over put on a compelling product. That absolutely cannot be denied.
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How do you know it wont be compelling, you havent seen a lap? I dont need a essay on what could happen so just admit you dont have an answer because you dont have the data and lets watch it play out.
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Well of course. Haven't seen a lap, knows nothing about the numbers, but it's has to be a terrible idea because HE thinks so. The comedy never ends.
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Who wants in on a group package?
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An 50% stake in the Long Beach GP is up for sale, and reports were that NASCAR had tried to purchase it in the past. Otherwise it would likely be contractually difficult to replace IndyCar as a headliner at a number of existing street events, and a second race weekend at any such circuit would probably be a nonstarter due to extended street closures.
Charlie Spencer
Road courses and short tracks.
I never sit in the cheap seats. Those are probably down in Chicken Bone Alley.
Those image show a more open venue that I anticipated. I expected the circuit to have skyscrapers on all sides, buried down in concrete canyons. What I know about Chicago is limited to the names of its sports teams and one layover in the airport.
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We’re expected to treat our fellow forum members respectfully so I won’t say it.
Business chases markets. Standard operating procedure.
Whether or not the planned product will be compelling remains to be seen. That absolutely cannot be denied.
StandOnIt
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Same here, but logic says those are some of the best seats in the house as they say, similar to the sweets on the racetracks. The price is for both days I believe. The general admission prices are for both days and fans can wander around to different areas and it includes the entertainments according to post #226. Julie Giese has quite a story working for Nascar. She plays it down, but she has been behind the construction/design of the tracks starting at the 400 million renovation of Daytona.
Speedbowl14
Ryan Preece and short tracks
That's interesting. Unrelated- I think NASCAR would be a complete disaster at Long Beach. Namely the fountain turn and of course the hairpin
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It better come with unlimited Portillo's, Lou Malnatti's, and Old Style.
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I've been watching street racing since the 80's and I'm STILL waiting on a good one, and stock cars will bring out the worst in street racing. I predict it will be about as awful as the Nashville Indycar race.
Charlie Spencer
Road courses and short tracks.
I don't usually enjoy them, and in particular don't normally like Long Beach. For some reason last month's IndyCar race at LB just clicked with me.
At first glance, the Chicago layout looks boring, mostly 90-degree turns. I'm willing to wait to see how it runs before damning it. It looks like it's more likely to die a political death anyway than to pass away from poor racing.