Congratulations Chase Elliott

ElliottFan said:
Say what you will but Chase is the youngest driver ever to win a truck race and by a pretty good ways. The cup boys wont top this race tonight. How can they? A last turn pass (wreck) and then Papis gets slapped by a chick. How can you top that?
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damn shame Piquet wasn't there.
 
ElliottFan said:
Say what you will but Chase is the youngest driver ever to win a truck race and by a pretty good ways. The cup boys wont top this race tonight. How can they? A last turn pass (wreck) and then Papis gets slapped by a chick. How can you top that?
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I missed the race and just watched the recap, last lap and driver and CC interviews, but I DVRd it and will watch the whole thing tomorrow, cant wait to see the slap.
 
that girl probably came from those weasels at fox sports..they will do anything for ratings. bunch of ho's
 
Mojo said:
How so? The inside line is not the racing line. You're not suppose to drive into the corner straight like that because as we saw you can't get stopped. They all arc the entry of the corner so the car will turn. Elliott took a straight path to the corner.
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you can enter the corner anyway you want, the way you pass someone on a road course is to out brake them into the corner and if they leave the inside open even a tad you take it. Chase dive bombed the inside and if chase does manage to make the corner under control Ty is going to bang into chase because he didn't give any room to the bottom when chase filled it. It all happened so fast. bottom line I say ty wrecks himself or gets taken out because he left no room on the bottom. If I am a team owner I want my driver to fill that hole every time coming to the checkers. I wouldn't hire a driver who is content to run second when they have a chance to win. I am not saying take the guy out but if contact is the only way and you are faster than the guy in front of you. I want to see contact used for the win. This is a big boys sport and you take wins when you can. Another factor is chase isn't running for the title so he doesn't have to race with these guys every week. that has to be a factor.
 
hidesert cowboy said:
you can enter the corner anyway you want, the way you pass someone on a road course is to out brake them into the corner and if they leave the inside open even a tad you take it. Chase dive bombed the inside and if chase does manage to make the corner under control Ty is going to bang into chase because he didn't give any room to the bottom when chase filled it.
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You can enter the corner anyway you want if you want to crash. There is a reason Chase never took that line the first 63 laps of the race. If Ty wasn't there to stop him, Chase would of went straight into the tire barrier. He wasn't going to make the turn taking that path. He said that himself. Hell he barely made it through even leaning on Ty, he went off track and was sideways coming to the flag. But at the end of the day his name is on the trophy and nothing is going to change that now.
 
Mojo said:
You can enter the corner anyway you want if you want to crash. There is a reason Chase never took that line the first 63 laps of the race...
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Correct. The first 63 laps weren't for the win; the last lap was.
Ty would've done the same thing that Chase did. Kasey, however, wouldn't have.
 
BobbyFord said:
Correct. The first 63 laps weren't for the win; the last lap was.
Ty would've done the same thing that Chase did. Kasey, however, wouldn't have.
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Not so sure about that. Ty was protecting because he had the lead but if he was running second going into the last turn I think he would of been satisfied with a solid points day and brought it home. But I can see we're not going to find any common ground on so I guess we can leave it at. :)
 
Mojo said:
How so? The inside line is not the racing line. You're not suppose to drive into the corner straight like that because as we saw you can't get stopped. They all arc the entry of the corner so the car will turn. Elliott took a straight path to the corner.
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The whole track is a racing line!! THIS is what is wrong with NASCAR. Too many drivers pussyfoot around the track & don't go for it all at the end. Last lap, last turn, last chance, and he knew the outside was taken so he tried the inside. It's just SO ironic that the number he took out was the #3. Dale would have done the EXACT same thing & in victory lane would have said "rubbins racin". Don't tell a driver that he can't utilize a part of the track to attempt to win. This whole situation is what made the sport so popular, and nobody took a helmet to the face!

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ChexOrWrex said:
The whole track is a racing line!! THIS is what is wrong with NASCAR.
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On an oval I would agree. It's all fair game. Completely different game on a road course. You can't enter a corner any way that you want without setting up for it unless you're trying to wreck. And the refrences to Dale are pretty funny though. I think if you want an example of how Dale would of handled it, look at what Brad did on the last lap at Watkins Glen this year. That was a great use of the bumper, just couldn't get past him. Brad could have just as easily dive bombed the last corner and took Kyle out but he didn't. Chase is only 17, he will learn. But I'm left unimpressed.
 
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Mojo said:
On an oval I would agree. It's all fair game. Completely different game on a road course. You can't enter a corner any way that you want without setting up for it unless you're trying to wreck. And the refrences to Dale are pretty funny though. I think if you want an example of how Dale would of handled it, look at what Brad did on the last lap last corner at Watkins Glen this year. That was a great use of the bumper, just couldn't get past him.
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Ok so on a road course your supposed to be content with second and not compete for a win in the last turn. Makes sense. And on the flip side look at Ambrose on Kes the year before - great use of the chrome horn & took the win. This is racing, not follow the leader.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Ok so on a road course your supposed to be content with second and not compete for a win in the last turn. Makes sense. And on the flip side look at Ambrose on Kes the year before - great use of the chrome horn & took the win. This is racing, not follow the leader.
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Guess there's just two different ways of looking at it. I don't think we're going to be able to change each others minds haha. :)
 
Looked like racing to me. Great to see someone hungry for a win get aggressive as hell in chasing that win, rather than sitting back thinking "I'll get a win sometime I suppose." One thing for sure, stuff like that sure does bring out the passion we all have for this sport.
 
Even his crew members weren't too happy with how he got that win, but he got the win either way. Yes he showed some skill and he's only 17, who knows maybe he might be a dominant driver in a few years.

On another note, if Nationwide or Sprint Cup ever goes to Bowmanville, I'm going there! And hopefully I can find a spot up along Andretti Straight.
 
hidesert cowboy said:
you can enter the corner anyway you want, the way you pass someone on a road course is to out brake them into the corner and if they leave the inside open even a tad you take it. Chase dive bombed the inside and if chase does manage to make the corner under control Ty is going to bang into chase because he didn't give any room to the bottom when chase filled it. It all happened so fast. bottom line I say ty wrecks himself or gets taken out because he left no room on the bottom. If I am a team owner I want my driver to fill that hole every time coming to the checkers. I wouldn't hire a driver who is content to run second when they have a chance to win. I am not saying take the guy out but if contact is the only way and you are faster than the guy in front of you. I want to see contact used for the win. This is a big boys sport and you take wins when you can. Another factor is chase isn't running for the title so he doesn't have to race with these guys every week. that has to be a factor.
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This is all too familiar, I remember Suzuka 1989- Ayrton Senna vs Alain Prost, Prost did the very same thing Dillen did and Senna bit just like Elliot did.
 
Mojo said:
Brad's spotter pretty much summed up my thoughts on it.

Joey Meier
@2Spotter
"I don't race that way"...When you just RACED THAT WAY!!!#NASCAR
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Funny, that's -exactly- what I told the dog. I don't have a problem with the way he won, but don't be a hypocrite. Tell us you wanted that first win and you would have done anything to get it; that's obviously what you were doing, and it's cool as long as you don't weasel around it.

As to Ty settling for second, there's nothing new about drivers running for championships settling in behind ringers / non-championship drivers. It depends on what a team wanta more, the individual win or the season championship. If the driver and CC don't agree, they have bigger problems than being spun out.
 
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The more I watch the Elliot , Dillon replay the more I see Dillon trying to cut Elliot off and wrecking himself. Maybe if Grandpa would watch the replay he would shut up and let his grandbaby stand up for himself.
 
I thought after NASCAR found out about Kyle Busch only being 17 when he first raced a NCTS event, they changed the age minimum to 18? Or is it 18 for the Busch & Winston Cup series only?
 
Restrictor Plate King! said:
I thought after NASCAR found out about Kyle Busch only being 17 when he first raced a NCTS event, they changed the age minimum to 18? Or is it 18 for the Busch & Winston Cup series only?
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I think it was in modifieds that his father falsified his birth certificate to make it appear as though he was 16.
 
Restrictor Plate King! said:
I thought after NASCAR found out about Kyle Busch only being 17 when he first raced a NCTS event, they changed the age minimum to 18? Or is it 18 for the Busch & Winston Cup series only?
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It's 18 for Cup and Nationwide. Also 18 for any Truck race on a track larger than 1.1 miles. For tracks smaller than 1.1 miles and road courses, it is 16.
 
Fun fact, ignoring Chase's K&N win at Iowa both Elliotts first NASCAR win was on a road course. Bill Riverside 1983 Chase CTMP 2013
 
Charlie Spencer said:
As to Ty settling for second, there's nothing new about drivers running for championships settling in behind ringers / non-championship drivers.
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I dont know of a single driver who is happy with being the first loser.
EDIT: Except Greg Biffle
 
Ty needs to listen to his spotter, probably could have finished first if he didn't cut Elliott. Your Clear and he's along side are two different animals. Roll the dice ya pay the price.
 
I have no issue at all with the ending of the Truck race.
They just might sell more tickets next race because of it, if the advertise properly. :)
 
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