Congratulations Chase Elliott

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Chase had every intention of taking him out.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Funny, that's -exactly- what I told the dog. I don't have a problem with the way he won, but don't be a hypocrite. Tell us you wanted that first win and you would have done anything to get it; that's obviously what you were doing, and it's cool as long as you don't weasel around it.

As to Ty settling for second, there's nothing new about drivers running for championships settling in behind ringers / non-championship drivers. It depends on what a team wanta more, the individual win or the season championship. If the driver and CC don't agree, they have bigger problems than being spun out.
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Drivers are all pc now... they want to be liked.. I have a problem with that more then I do wrecking someone for the win (which I don't have a problem with in most cases) Everyone is all like "sponsor blah blah, great car today" and when they wreck someone "oh I didn't mean it to do that, I hate winning that way..sponsor blah..." lol

How bout someone man up and say, " I race to win. Not finish second. if that ruffles some feathers too bad. "
 
ChexOrWrex said:
I dont know of a single driver who is happy with being the first loser.
EDIT: Except Greg Biffle
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I don't expect him to be happy about it either. But if a team is going to keep its eyes on the prize, they first have to agree on which prize they're eying.

And Mark Martin is ALWAYS 'just happy to be here'. :D
 
Elliott and Earnhardt had some memorable races..Chip off the ol block, just wish the truck was red and had a #9 on the side. And as long as I am wishing, make it a Ford truck next time
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
One career NASCAR win, one dump and run. :) #iwin
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Chase Elliott:
camping world trucks.6 races total in 1 year.1 win, 5 top 5's 6 top 10's 1 pole with an average finish of 4.3
3 races in K&N pro over two years. 2 top 5's out of three races
Arca 10 races in 2 years. 1 win and 6 top 5's all ten races finished in the top 10
X1r-pro series 11 races in two years 1 win 7 top 5's 10 out of 11 races finished in the top 10.

Elliott isn't a one hit wonder @ 17.. 33 races ran, 3 wins, 20 top 5's, 28 top tens.
 
Dirty and talentless move, which is a shame because Chase drove a great race otherwise.
 
That is not racing the way it used to be and neither is it the way NASCAR was always run. I've been around racing racing since I was 12 years old, and saw my first ever race at that age, in 1948, so I go back further than most of you. But while some may "think" that is how it used to be, it wasn't there were rules of etiquette then just as there are now.
In the "good old days" I recall, and this applied to NASCAR and local racing, when a driver pulled a stunt like Casey Elliott used, they were usually met with a tire iron wrapped in a newspaper or until they had left the track and payback began. A nudge to help a guy up the hill (an expert at this was Frankie Schneider, NE modified driver) and in the NASCAR series, Joe Weatherly.

What Casey Elliott did was pure, unadulterated, out and out, chicken sh1t racing! He dive bombed that corner and could not control his truck after hitting Ty Dillon. It was not a racing incident and it was not clean driving. I hope Chase Elliott gets his act together and his handlers and father lecture him on clean racing versus wreckin' racin'. If he learns that he'll have a great start since he shows remarkable talent far above using cheap shots to win.
 
Say what you will but it IS the type of racing I've seen on every local short track I've ever been to. Like it or not it is the way it happened. On to Iowa.
 
Audio from the phone conversation after the race between Rc and Bill Elliot........"Hey bill...yea....Rc here....What can I do for you Rc?....Please tell Chase's mom that im sorry, but we have to teach your son a lesson, the next time he races...hopefully he learns his lesson while recouperating in the hospital........."

If you don't think this kid has a bullseye on his back your a FOOL.......You DON'T take out a driver running for a championship, and not pay a heavy price down the road.....
 
Stewart Fan said:
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Chase had every intention of taking him out.
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No I don't see it that way, and I don't think Chase saw it that way either. This is what I think Chase had going through his head: "I am going to go to the bottom entering the turn. Ty can either move up and out of the groove or he can wreck himself. Either way I am not moving." Nothing wrong with that IMHO.
 
I like this better, Elliott is all over him the turn before and Ty is blocking his getting a run into the last corner. Ty blocks again, this time Elliott is there.


 
Whizzer said:
That is not racing the way it used to be and neither is it the way NASCAR was always run. I've been around racing racing since I was 12 years old, and saw my first ever race at that age, in 1948, so I go back further than most of you. But while some may "think" that is how it used to be, it wasn't there were rules of etiquette then just as there are now.
In the "good old days" I recall, and this applied to NASCAR and local racing, when a driver pulled a stunt like Casey Elliott used, they were usually met with a tire iron wrapped in a newspaper or until they had left the track and payback began. A nudge to help a guy up the hill (an expert at this was Frankie Schneider, NE modified driver) and in the NASCAR series, Joe Weatherly.

What Casey Elliott did was pure, unadulterated, out and out, chicken sh1t racing! He dive bombed that corner and could not control his truck after hitting Ty Dillon. It was not a racing incident and it was not clean driving. I hope Chase Elliott gets his act together and his handlers and father lecture him on clean racing versus wreckin' racin'. If he learns that he'll have a great start since he shows remarkable talent far above using cheap shots to win.
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His handlers would be the guy putting the truck under him.....That would be Rick Hendrick....I know Rick does not condone that type of racing from his drivers....When was the last time you saw the #5...24...48...88...take another driver out in that fashion????????........
 
It's kinda funny how we all look at the same incident in two different ways. Either you think that Chase was justified in his move or you see it like me that Chase took Ty out on the final turn. In any case I'm just glad that I'm always on the right side. :D

On the serious side, this may just turn into a great rivalry for many years to come. I'm looking forward to these two going at it for some time to come.
 
So some seem to think that because Dillon pulled down to block Elliot going into the last turn of the last lap (even though he had pulled up beside him) that Chase should have hit his brakes and let him have it. Chase had the fastest truck so what kind of racing is that when the fastest truck backs off on the last lap because the leader wants to throw a block on him to win? I guess to some being a gentleman on the last lap would be approiate, but I call what Chase did racing.
 
I think the whole thread is a bit of an overreaction . I saw Jeff Gordon take out Jeff Burton for a win once . Jeff Gordon admitted that he did it for the win because it was the last lap . If I recall Burton paid him back later and all was quickly forgotten . Except Gordon kept the win and I don't think Burton has won since . Stuff happens in racing .Stuff that's unpredictable ,that's what I like about it.
 
ted@economy said:
I think the whole thread is a bit of an overreaction . I saw Jeff Gordon take out Jeff Burton for a win once . Jeff Gordon admitted that he did it for the win because it was the last lap . If I recall Burton paid him back later and all was quickly forgotten . Except Gordon kept the win and I don't think Burton has won since . Stuff happens in racing .Stuff that's unpredictable ,that's what I like about it.
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That is one thing I love about Nascar. If you wreck someone, they don't forget, they will wreck you back lol.Drivers police themselves.. I don't have to.
 
ted@economy said:
I think the whole thread is a bit of an overreaction . I saw Jeff Gordon take out Jeff Burton for a win once . Jeff Gordon admitted that he did it for the win because it was the last lap . If I recall Burton paid him back later and all was quickly forgotten . Except Gordon kept the win and I don't think Burton has won since . Stuff happens in racing .Stuff that's unpredictable ,that's what I like about it.
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I believe that was the "Winston Million"....Let it be known that most NASCRAP drivers would WRECK their MOTHERS for a million bucks............He never did wreck the #99...just rubbed him a little in turn 4 on the last lap
 
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Jeffrey00 said:
No I don't see it that way, and I don't think Chase saw it that way either. This is what I think Chase had going through his head: "I am going to go to the bottom entering the turn. Ty can either move up and out of the groove or he can wreck himself. Either way I am not moving." Nothing wrong with that IMHO.
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I bet if that were Kyle/Kurt/Danica in Chase's truck most everyone would see it as 100% their fault.
 
So we agree and disagree and suppose none of that really matters in the larger picture. However, does this open Elliott up to being raced the same way (right or wrong) in the eyes of many, if not all, of the other drivers? What if I'm running for a championship and I know that he's willing to run me like that? Do I get him off the track before he get's chance to do me and possibly ruin my championship hopes?

I suspect that it'll be in the minds of most drivers if put in the situation.

I bet Patrick wishes she'd have dumped Villenueve before he got chance to wreck her on the last lap at Road America. She probably didn't know that anything goes on the last lap ;)
 
StandOnIt said:
I like this better, Elliott is all over him the turn before and Ty is blocking his getting a run into the last corner. Ty blocks again, this time Elliott is there.


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I noticed 2 trucks crashed right behind them, lol... "Hey they crashed, let's go crash with them!"
 
BSDShoes said:
I noticed 2 trucks crashed right behind them, lol... "Hey they crashed, let's go crash with them!"
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I wish they had a camera of those two also. Hard to tell, but it looked like Skeen tried to use Pappas truck for a carom pool shot. You know like eight ball corner, off the 14. :)
 
We're still talking about this? AYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA!!!
 
StandOnIt said:
I wish they had a camera of those two also. Hard to tell, but it looked like Skeen tried to use Pappas truck for a carom pool shot. You know like eight ball corner, off the 14. :)
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From Papis' in truck camera it does definitely look like Skeen was at fault. However Skeen's girlfriend didn't see it that way of course.
 
Jeffrey00 said:
From Papis' in truck camera it does definitely look like Skeen was at fault. However Skeen's girlfriend didn't see it that way of course.
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Isn't she claiming that Papis put his hands on her first?
 
Jeffrey00 said:
From Papis' in truck camera it does definitely look like Skeen was at fault. However Skeen's girlfriend didn't see it that way of course.
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Yeah, all I saw on Pappis camera was a truck that looked airborne flying by in a high rate of speed. :) Wonder if he was trying to boot Pappas and he dodged him. Not enough coverage. I noticed they used long range cameras and not too many extra short range pieces.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
You can see the truck turn right when he gets to Ty's rear bumper. He drove straight in to the corner and then turned right up in to Ty.
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Ty turned right 1st and didn't leave any room for Chase, so he made room. But that's racing.
 
This is all subjective, some like it some don't, the slap bothered me most.
But this and the spring California Cup race is good for ticket sales
 
dirtguru said:
Ty turned right 1st and didn't leave any room for Chase, so he made room. But that's racing.
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Ty turned left - in a left turn. If Ty wasn't there, Chase would've hit the barrier head on. But he knew that. Then when he hit Ty, he turned right to make sure Ty wrecked. It was a classic dump job. Anything goes on the last lap and Ty isn't faultless but it was a classic dump and run.
 
StandOnIt said:
wouldn't expect any different from ya. you shoot as straight as a rope.
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Everybody seems to see it a different way . I see Elliott turn left to get a better angle into the corner .I see Elliott get into the corner first . If Dillon had backed off maybe Elliott would have overdriven the corner and Dillon could have cut back under him. I can't read Elliotts mind like others , I have no idea what his intent was (other than winning ) but as to who had more to lose , it was Dillon , so why didn't he back off and let Elliott overdrive the corner? Maybe Elliott did dive bomb the corner to get the win . Seen it a hundred times . Not illegal , anymore than the bump and run is .
 
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