Conn. senator wants Fox to pull plug on NRA race

ted@economy said:
Oh yeah , let's get a hate goin for any driver or sponsor that we think might be a party to this outrage . This is STUPID
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Personally, I don't give a rat's ass about driver/sponsor politics but I'm not going to stop wondering who it was due to others getting a hate goin. That's up to them.
 
ted@economy said:
Oh yeah , let's get a hate goin for any driver or sponsor that we think might be a party to this outrage . This is STUPID
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My guess was for one reason, insurance companies want to remain neutral as much as possible. It was not a hate guess, you know I dont do that crap.
 
Am I the only one who noticed they didn't mention NRA, once during the entire race?
 
SpeedPagan said:
Am I the only one who noticed they didn't mention NRA, once during the entire race?
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During the post-race interview, the graphic at the top said "Texas 500 Unofficial Results" and they didn't show Busch shooting the old six shooters. Looks like Fox caved into the PC crowd.
 
My dad just texted me (we had been talking about the NRA controversy) and said that the 3M logo was blacked out on Biffle's hat during the post-race interview. Did anybody else notice that? I was looking at the computer. Looks like 3M was one of the sponsors that didn't want to be associated with the NRA.
 
TexasRaceLady said:
They mentioned it once an hour. FOX is required by contract to do so. The NRA did not buy premium sponsorship on FOX, nor buy any advertising.
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I must've missed it then.

KevinWI said:
My dad just texted me (we had been talking about the NRA controversy) and said that the 3M logo was blacked out on Biffle's hat during the post-race interview. Did anybody else notice that? I was looking at the computer. Looks like 3M was one of the sponsors that didn't want to be associated with the NRA.
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Huh, why didn't they do the same to the car?
 
TexasRaceLady said:
They mentioned it once an hour. FOX is required by contract to do so. The NRA did not buy premium sponsorship on FOX, nor buy any advertising.
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You are right TRL but you know as well as I do that they reneged on their usual coverage of a race sponsor, lack of showing the infield logo, lack of showing the winner shooting the pistols, etc etc etc, they may not be required by contract to do and show certain things but I really am disappointed in their reaction to pressure. Another reason to wonder how far they will go to appease certain people at the expense of their credibility.
 
Fox may have done their minimum, but it was pretty obvious they were talking around it. Watching NASCAR VictoryLane on Speed, seems obvious they're talking around the name of the race.
 
KevinWI said:
Fox may have done their minimum, but it was pretty obvious they were talking around it. Watching NASCAR VictoryLane on Speed, seems obvious they're talking around the name of the race.
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And instead of the name of the race in victory lane as always they had KyBu's name in fireworks.
 
Johali said:
And instead of the name of the race in victory lane as always they had KyBu's name in fireworks.
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Yeah, it just said "April 2013 Texas Winner" below KyBu's names on the graphics.

And where was the footage of KyBu shooting the six-shooters? Eddie Gossage said on Friday they would still do that in victory lane. He said it was a TMS tradition and had nothing to do with gun politics or the NRA.
 
Twitter world is saying Kes and Truex said some bold comments? Anyone know what they're talking about?
 
Their reaction to the pressure of a few people is not what nascar has always been about, it just makes me sad that they have come down so far, it may be the omen for a death knell, I truly hope not but it may be.
 
EI2IC said:
Twitter world is saying Kes and Truex said some bold comments? Anyone know what they're talking about?
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They played the audio on VictoryLane. Kes said NASCAR is putting a lot of bull**** on the #2 team, even stuff behind the scenes that the public doesn't know about it. Doesn't seem to have anything to do with the NRA.
 
KevinWI said:
They played the audio on VictoryLane. Kes said NASCAR is putting a lot of bull**** on the #2 team, even stuff behind the scenes that the public doesn't know about it. Doesn't seem to have anything to do with the NRA.
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Ah ok. Thanks for the info. Hmm gonna be interesting to see if we get some more detail on what he is referring too.
 
EI2IC said:
Ah ok. Thanks for the info. Hmm gonna be interesting to see if we get some more detail on what he is referring too.
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I tracked down Truex' comments. Apparently he implied that the last caution (f0r debris) that set up the pitstop where #18 beat him out was not a legitimate caution flag.
 
KevinWI said:
I tracked down Truex' comments. Apparently he implied that the last caution (f0r debris) that set up the pitstop where #18 beat him out was not a legitimate caution flag.
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Thanks. I don't blame Truex, I'd be pissed too, guy has 0 luck.

Sorry to go off topic, thought the comments might have been NRA related.

Back to the topic
 
As for the NRA stuff, it's disappointing. FOX really did its best to tip-toe around it. They just caved.
 
Watching the press conferences on NASCAR.com to see if anybody doesn't show up. So far, they're talking to Gibbs, KyBu and Dave Rogers.
 
The official TMS Twitter account confirmed that Kyle Busch did shoot off the six shooters after the race and Fox/Speed didn't show it. That makes me mad. That had nothing to do with the NRA. That was a Texas Speedway thing. It was like drinking the milk at Indianapolis.
 
I have to admit that I think the timing of this whole NRA race sponsorship was questionable. Judging by the small sample size on these forums, it looks like most people here have the NRA's back on this issue, and if this sponsorship had happened a year ago, nobody would have batted an eyelash. But why now? Why sponsor a nationally televised sporting event just four months removed from Newtown and less than a year removed from Aurora? Those events are still awfully fresh in a lot of people's minds, meaning this is still a very sensitive subject for a lot of people.
 
FLRacingFan said:
As for the NRA stuff, it's disappointing. FOX really did its best to tip-toe around it. They just caved.
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Not sure if its been mentioned, haven't read the whole thread.

FOX did nothing out of the ordinary with today's race. Like I said in the race thread, they didn't cave.

Like every race, the title sponsor has to essentially pay a "premium" to get their name mentioned on TV (been like that basically since the new contract that brought ESPN in on board). Otherwise the networks (FOX or ESPN) will just refer to it as the "Venue 400/500".

NRA did not buy up to get their mention. They were advertising for the Kansas race the same way, because whatever that sponsor is also didn't buy up.
 
ToyYoda said:
I have to admit that I think the timing of this whole NRA race sponsorship was questionable. Judging by the small sample size on these forums, it looks like most people here have the NRA's back on this issue, and if this sponsorship had happened a year ago, nobody would have batted an eyelash. But why now? Why sponsor a nationally televised sporting event just four months removed from Newtown and less than a year removed from Aurora? Those events are still awfully fresh in a lot of people's minds, meaning this is still a very sensitive subject for a lot of people.
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Well I do believe the timing of the sponsorship of the race was deliberate, but I don't know what the NRA end game was.
 
ToyYoda said:
I have to admit that I think the timing of this whole NRA race sponsorship was questionable. Judging by the small sample size on these forums, it looks like most people here have the NRA's back on this issue, and if this sponsorship had happened a year ago, nobody would have batted an eyelash. But why now? Why sponsor a nationally televised sporting event just four months removed from Newtown and less than a year removed from Aurora? Those events are still awfully fresh in a lot of people's minds, meaning this is still a very sensitive subject for a lot of people.
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What if a pro-gay rights group had sponsored a race after the Jerry Sandusky / Penn State scandal?
 
Karl Malone called the race the NRA 500 right before he gave the command to start the engines. He sure did a better job then the guy did at the Nationwide race on Fri night.
 
breatheoflife said:
Not sure if its been mentioned, haven't read the whole thread.

FOX did nothing out of the ordinary with today's race. Like I said in the race thread, they didn't cave.

Like every race, the title sponsor has to essentially pay a "premium" to get their name mentioned on TV (been like that basically since the new contract that brought ESPN in on board). Otherwise the networks (FOX or ESPN) will just refer to it as the "Venue 400/500".

NRA did not buy up to get their mention. They were advertising for the Kansas race the same way, because whatever that sponsor is also didn't buy up.
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Don't come in here spoutin that "facts" crap. People want to rant here .;)
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...kyle-busch-pole-winner-shotgun-rifle/2080853/

FORT WORTH – The pole position for the first Sprint Cup race sponsored by the National Rifle Association didn't feature the the rifle traditionally awarded to the fastest qualifier. Texas Motor Speedway President Eddie Gossage said the reason had nothing to do with politics and everything to do with money.
"We don't have a gun sponsor for either the pole or" the postrace celebration (in which the race winner fires a pair of six-shooters loaded with blanks), Gossage said before Saturday night's NRA 500. "Around here, if you want to play, you've got to pay"
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ToyYoda said:
I have to admit that I think the timing of this whole NRA race sponsorship was questionable.
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The contract between TMS and the NRA was signed way before the controversy surrounding Sandy Hook started.

FOX was very aware of the situation and the request by some "Prominent Americans" to cancel the telecast.
My opinion is unimportant. So is that of those Prominent Americans.
Business is business. Politics is politics. Entertainment is entertainment.
The NRA is a business. The gun control debate is politics. Racing is entertainment (for the fans at least).

The back stretch wall had visible NRA logo "prominently located".

And here is Pee Wee shooting his wad in victory lane on Saturday Night!!
FOX chose not to show this. Was it due to political pressure? We may never know.
But in the grand scheme of things, does it really matter? :idunno:

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breatheoflife said:
Not sure if its been mentioned, haven't read the whole thread.

FOX did nothing out of the ordinary with today's race. Like I said in the race thread, they didn't cave.

Like every race, the title sponsor has to essentially pay a "premium" to get their name mentioned on TV (been like that basically since the new contract that brought ESPN in on board). Otherwise the networks (FOX or ESPN) will just refer to it as the "Venue 400/500".

NRA did not buy up to get their mention. They were advertising for the Kansas race the same way, because whatever that sponsor is also didn't buy up.
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I get that. That still doesn't explain the omission of the six-shooter celebration though. I guess it's not a big deal though. Seems like it was a whole lot of hype for nothing.
 
KevinWI said:
What if a pro-gay rights group had sponsored a race after the Jerry Sandusky / Penn State scandal?
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That comparison doesn't track. A more appropriate comparison is the NAMBLA sponsoring a race after the Jerry Sandusky/Penn State scandal.
 
ToyYoda said:
Bad comparison. Being gay and being a pedophile are two completely different things.
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SpeedPagan said:
That comparison doesn't track. A more appropriate comparison is the NAMBLA sponsoring a race after the Jerry Sandusky/Penn State scandal.
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Right, because the NRA encourages people to buy guns and shoot school kids with them.
 
Where was the NRA logo on the infield grass where the sponsors logo always is at every race. If it was there they must have made a concerted effort to not show it as the sponsors logo is usually seen time after time ad nauseum at all the other tracks and I dont remember seeing it and the same with the absence of the logo behind victory lane that is always there. TRL I like and respect what you represent but they caved, plain and simple, they just caved to a handful of people on one side of a political issue.
 
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