I guess you can call it strategy. Bell was about 7th or so when the first stage was ending. Everybody in front of him came into the pits 2 laps before the end of stage one including the leader 24. Bell stayed out, and took the points. It put him even farther behind and was a losing strategy, but good enough for second place.
Too much to hope for. There are worse tracks and issues, I guess.
Is anyone trying to suggest Byron didn't deserve it? That would be ridiculous really. Regardless of any opinion that Bell had a faster car the 24 had the best combination of car and team execution so the win is well-deserved to all on the 24 team.
Yeah - Bell was closing in but it really was never in doubt. Maybe with a few more laps but it was not in question.
It was that way at last year's Roval. I switched to radio feed on scanner for closing laps, and they made it sound like Byron was right on AJ's butt. He was not anywhere close, and was actually losing touch with him.
Sounds pretty good.
Can you understand this? Tell me you can.
Did you watch the race? He was back there because of pit strategy
Right now, it's Byron & not close. Logano looks like a shell of his former self.Byron has been great, but calling him the best driver in the sport may be peak racing-forum hot takes. When he wins TWO championships (nvm one) we can have that conversation
Until then, all things equal, talent, race smarts, execution, it's still Logano.
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Winning a championship tells me the driver, the cars performance, and the crew were pretty good a substantial amount of that season. But not winning a championship doesn’t tell me diddly squat about how good a driver is, because there are so many things that is out of the drivers control that can keep him from being crowned champion at the end of the year.Byron has been great, but calling him the best driver in the sport may be peak racing-forum hot takes. When he wins TWO championships (nvm one) we can have that conversation
Until then, all things equal, talent, race smarts, execution, it's still Logano.
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Given this format championships mean nothing in the determination of the best driver in the sport. All it means is they figured out how to run well at the last race of the season.Byron has been great, but calling him the best driver in the sport may be peak racing-forum hot takes. When he wins TWO championships (nvm one) we can have that conversation
Until then, all things equal, talent, race smarts, execution, it's still Logano.
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BS.
Wait, what? Byron the best, and it's not close? What?
I mean, it doesn't exactly tell you who the best is all the time, sometimes it's just who got hot at the right moment. Like even as a Chase fan, in no way was he the best in 2020. Now in 2022, he was the best, and just had some bad luck at the end that cost him, it happens. But I wasn't that mad about it because I'm like well he probably shouldn't have won it in 2020, it happens. Now, when Larson won, he was 100% the best driver that year, just went balls to the wall and kicked everyone's ass. Sometimes the best wins, sometimes the one who gets hot wins. I personally don't like that, because I don't need it like other sports, but it is what it is. At this point I just care more about the races weekly.
I don't care how great Logano is, the Fords are a disaster.Byron has been great, but calling him the best driver in the sport may be peak racing-forum hot takes. When he wins TWO championships (nvm one) we can have that conversation
Until then, all things equal, talent, race smarts, execution, it's still Logano.
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At least for now. Just remember they weren't worth a crap at this time last year either and the #12 found something and won the championship.
Yeah for now. That is what I go by not years ago.
Fair point.....and neither do I, but given that NASCAR wants it to be like other sports, the system is just fine. I respect the fans who want the overall season points winner, but if a fan can get let go of that for a moment, there is something incredibly awesome about the Round of 4.....four teams that are forced to operate at the highest level, and the one that does it the best is your champion. Sure, elements of stick and ball, but kind of cool in its own right as well. I have thoroughly enjoyed the two championships that I have attended.
So, spare the me our usual snarky stuff because I am asking this in a very honest way......Why? Why, in your opinion, are the Fords a disaster? I agree with you, but why in this so in the Next Gen era? Is this a design issue? If so, how could that be with the shared wind tunnel data? Is this an engineering/set up issue? If so, how could they have such ****** talent after winning two consecutive championships. I am honestly at a loss with that bunch....
Ya got me. I just know it isn't the drivers fault. Every team can't be missing the setups.
Now, just picture how awesome it would be if something like that just happened naturally, where the season just played out to a point where you have 2, or 3, or maybe 4 people just happen to come into the final race with a chance to win the championship, and it happened naturally. That would imo feel more special than a forced Game 7 moment.
Way too much common sense in that post. Chase's 2020 was a perfect example of a driver/team that got hot at the end. He won 3 of the last 5 races to secure that title. They were so good at the end of Martinsville that he drove away from the rest of the field by like a half a lap I think. 2022 was overall his best year but interestingly enough the end of that year is when you saw a glimpse of the performance falling off. Even more strange is that I saw an interview with Chase where he putting most of this on himself (shocker there I know) saying it's about him learning how to drive the new car in a different way. 2022 he started off on fire and crushed the regular season title with the new car though so that just does not add up to me. Seems they hit it best to start but maybe that made them complacent and other teams figured stuff out. Just a thought.
Chase said he was good in the new car because until everyone figured it out he was getting away with driving the new car the same way he drove the old one. Now he needs to change the way he drives in order to keep up
Called them out lol.
Nope, they can adjust torque and HP at what RPM they make it. More Torque for short tracks obviously.
yeah I just watched that interview and I guess it makes sense. I'm not sure whether to be encouraged or discouraged though. If this car does not suit his driving style I am not sure there will be a lot he can do to get the feel he is looking for. There is data available to him on how all other drivers are doing it so I am afraid he's just not comfortable with it and it's going to be a long road. He seems to have made some small gains but still pretty far from where he needs to be overall. I will give credit where due for him owning it and being open to discussing it.
Reminds me a lot of Dale Jr with the COT. Had some success early and then fell way behind.
Yeah he was in the hunt for a top 10 until then. In a Kaulig car who have struggled all year. Dude’s a force on the road courses, and is running pretty well on ovals too.
