Cup RACE thread --- Daytona

Well as a kid who grew up loving a good demolition derby, this race was a little much for me.

Good - No injuries, 1st time winner, no rain, the intrigue of who would survive and battle for the final move.
Bad - Lots and lots of torn up race cars, long yellows and red flags. Not a good nite for ol Sten.
Ugly- I guess Kez gets it for his slight emotional slip in his post crash interview. I mean, to say
you are going to retaliate blocks and cause more crashes in a race where everyone
is already crashing is a little bit non-sensical. I just flashed back to the Carl Edwards scrum days.

I am starting to wonder about what the race would be like if we ran them through the bus stop chicane
right before T3. I think that may be worthy of consideration for at least the July race.
 
Hotrod said:
Well as a kid who grew up loving a good demolition derby, this race was a little much for me.

Good - No injuries, 1st time winner, no rain, the intrigue of who would survive and battle for the final move.
Bad - Lots and lots of torn up race cars, long yellows and red flags. Not a good nite for ol Sten.
Ugly- I guess Kez gets it for his slight emotional slip in his post crash interview. I mean, to say
you are going to retaliate blocks and cause more crashes in a race where everyone
is already crashing is a little bit non-sensical. I just flashed back to the Carl Edwards scrum days.

I am starting to wonder about what the race would be like if we ran them through the bus stop chicane
right before T3. I think that may be worthy of consideration for at least the July race.
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Road course for both Dega and Daytona, one date, start and end the season at homestead. Easy fix to a ****** up situation.
 
Greg said:
I prefer it to a first time winner crying in victory lane.
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I freakin' love the EJ's composure. He doesn't have any tears left. He lost his Dad....and he handled that with grace as well. Stupid race saved by a great first time winner.
 
So I didn't get to see the race last night because we were buying my wife a car, so I DVR'ed the race so I could watch it afterwards. We get done with everything and went to a restaurant for dinner. I walk in just in time to see Erik Jones doing his victory burnout. M*****r F****r.

Glad Jones won, just didn't wanna find out about it quite so soon. :)
 
Goose61 said:
Absolute trash, garbage of the first order.

Like Truex or not, he dominated this race, and to lose it in a chickenstuff manner like this is absolutely ridiculous.

From now any race in overtime that is red-flagged should be called immediately.

The WWE has more legitimacy than this nonsense.
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nobody wants truex winning anything
 
Observations from last night:

Is there an official in NASCAR who is in shape? They all look like giant cue balls whenever they are shown on the screen. Talk about a bad look for your sport. I can see why Lilly sponsors a vehicle.

Restrictor plate races need to be shorter. NASCAR would do itself a favor by either shortening the race or hiring more people to remove all the parts or the cars, and clean the track up faster. Watching/sitting through yellow flag laps isn’t interesting.

Rick Allen or the person whispering in his ear about the topics he should talk about doesn’t understand racing.

Jr. is a funny guy. The comment about a win for mullets was classic.

Kurt Busch was in throwback interview form.
 
Got to see the good side of the Jones boy last night, I bet he walks a little taller around the garages now. Sometimes after they get a win under their belt they come on strong.

 
ChexOrWrex said:
How in the world could you possibly know that. We have no clue what happens behind closed doors or in private moments.
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As always, I judge what I see. I have been consistent with this. Keep this post handy the next time this board fires off about Kyle Busch.
 
Revman said:
As always, I judge what I see. I have been consistent with this. Keep this post handy the next time this board fires off about Kyle Busch.
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Wtf. What does this board’s opinion of Kyle have to do with Jones’s composure through tragedy?
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Wtf. What does this board’s opinion of Kyle have to do with Jones’s composure through tragedy?
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Dude. My statement about EJ was based on what we see publicly. You made the correct statement that we can't judge what we cannot see. I agree. In this respect, my point was that this board does this routinely with Kyle Busch, and it should not. Chill.
 
The Stenhouse factor:
Last year there were 21 cars on the lead lap. Ironically Stenhouse won the race.
This year there were 13 cars on the lead lap, Stenhouse easily was responsible for 8 cars a lap down or DNF'd including himself
 
Spotter22 said:
Uh its been going on since 1988.
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Yep, plate racing is 30 years old this year. When it started, it was an "unknown". So all the drivers started off the same. It was new to everyone. Now, there is an enormous amount of data and experience to learn from, yet nothing has changed. As I recall, the object was to slow the cars down to keep them out of the fence, ala Bobby Allison in the 1987 Winston 500 at Talladega. Seems a couple years ago, Kyle Larsons engine wound up on the backside of the catch fence in the Xfinity race. And one of the Dillons got into the catch fence pretty hard a couple years back also. I'm wondering if the solution would be to build better fences? How many years have we been talking about the "big one"? And not after the wreck, but before it. It's a forgone conclusion it's gonna happen. just a matter of "when", not "if". There were some hard licks last night. Probably some sore drivers this morning. I'm not sure anyone has the solution to do anything about plate racing. If it's the highest rated races, what can you do? If in fact the four plate races garner the most viewers, what does that say that some folks are tuning in to see? The "big one"? And another thought, most of last nights carnage can't be blamed completely on "plate" racing, but more on stupid, over zealous and impatient driving. That's usually the culprit in most wrecks. Who knows? The dabate will rage on and on and on and on...............
 
You guys need to understand you’re in the minority mostly. That’s the sports biggest problem IMO. On this forum you’d think last night was an awful race and that Daytona is an embarrassment, yet on Jeff Gluck’s twitter poll it was 76/24 in favor of the racing which is quite high.

People want close racing and bumping and banging, there may have been a few too many wrecks but people want to see on the whole the type of racing presented at plate tracks
 
Mispeedway15 said:
You guys need to understand you’re in the minority mostly. That’s the sports biggest problem IMO. On this forum you’d think last night was an awful race and that Daytona is an embarrassment, yet on Jeff Gluck’s twitter poll it was 76/24 in favor of the racing which is quite high.

People want close racing and bumping and banging, there may have been a few too many wrecks but people want to see on the whole the type of racing presented at plate tracks
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How many participated in that poll, where was it taken, what demographic did it target. All those factors come into play. Bottom line plate racing is horrible, I could almost handle it 4 or 5 years ago, but it's become a farce as of late.
 
Mopardh9 said:
How many participated in that poll, where was it taken, what demographic did it target. All those factors come into play. Bottom line plate racing is horrible, I could almost handle it 4 or 5 years ago, but it's become a farce as of late.
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His readers so NASCAR/racing fans in general. This is a much more traditional website and the posts on here by many reflect that
 
Mopardh9 said:
Not like it has the last 5 years, if you call this racing that took place tonight you are in a bubble world. Stop apologizing for NASCAR, you can't bring yourself to say one thing critical of plate racing, it's comical.
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I wont apologize for anything, just because I dont sit around and look for reasons to bitch doesnt mean I like everything. Whats comical is you complaining about everything. Thats the 100% truth about it.
 
Mispeedway15 said:
... people want to see on the whole the type of racing presented at plate tracks
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Not a problem. I can stomach four of them a year. If they become the dominant form of racing for NASCAR, there are other forms of racing I enjoy. I've had a variety of entertainments come and go in my life.
 
Spotter22 said:
I wont apologize for anything, just because I dont sit around and look for reasons to bitch doesnt mean I like everything. Whats comical is you complaining about everything. Thats the 100% truth about it.
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it's the ol , it was better back in the day excuse but with a twist. There is until October to think up some new ones.
 
Spotter22 said:
Are you Bobby Hansen? This was your rebuttal a nobody who has a website?
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I hope you didn't read that article, I couldn't get thru it, it was a joke. Bobby stick to running your mouth in a microphone and being a part of the K-Hawk crew whatever that is, you don't know squat about racing.
he lost me here: The big tracks, Daytona & Talladega, are restrictor plate tracks. You don't need a whole lot of power,
 
Plate racing sucks period. Boring. Who ever has a fast good handling car should be able to run up front like it used to be . It was better plate racing in the early 90s. Before restrictor plates was even better. Awesome Bill getting back on the lead lap under green. That will never be possible again. Now ever car is pretty much equal and just line up and play follow the leader. Cars also look basically the same.
 
9 fan for life said:
Plate racing sucks period. Boring. Who ever has a fast good handling car should be able to run up front like it used to be . It was better plate racing in the early 90s. Before restrictor plates was even better. Awesome Bill getting back on the lead lap under green. That will never be possible again. Now ever car is pretty much equal and just line up and play follow the leader. Cars also look basically the same.
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Huh?
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Like 6k-8k people vote in that poll. That is way too small a pool of the entire nascar fanbase to judge by. Probability statistics 101
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it's large enough for decent accuracy and the pole here is very close to it with a few exceptions
 
StandOnIt said:
it's large enough for decent accuracy and the pole here is very close to it with a few exceptions
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One journalist’s twitter poll is deemed an accurate measurement? For a sport where the majority of the fan base doesn’t even bother with social media? Get real. I suggest you attend a few courses in P&S.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
One journalist’s twitter poll is deemed an accurate measurement? For a sport where the majority of the fan base doesn’t even bother with social media? Get real. I suggest you attend a few courses in P&S.
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Don't tell anybody, but old folks are doing social media. I don't know a soul that doesn't have a facebook account. Some of us old folks even have smart phones ... and they take pitchures and stuff
 
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