Cup RACE thread --- Pocono, Rd. 2

I’m just trying to figure out how Kyle Busch won? So he won because of strategy only??
 
Matt D and Almirola got into it on track and exhanged verbal jabs on pit road.

Aric’s a smart man to keep the helmet on.
 
Isn’t u the one that was making fun of me wheh I posted I would have tickets to the Bristol race like I was lying lol? Anyways by knowing people that works for NASCAR and spending a a lot of money at these tracks



I wish we could go and meet up there ............ watch our boy whip azzzzzz ;)
 
Harvick was 2-3 tenths better than the field. ****ting away wins.....
 
as I watched the final green flag laps after the last caution. did anyone else notice the lead kyle busch had? seriously it was 3 seconds. I know suarez and eric jones got to racing into turn 1 there. but seriously? 3 seconds?!?! never ever seen such a disparity in equipment in this sport. The 4 car probably could have gapped the field like that too. We need to keep in mind these guys aren't even having to run their cars hard when they are out front. What we saw in those final laps was kyle actually stepping on the gas. These guys are minding the gap behind them. Jeff gordan admitted to doing the same thing 20 years ago. You better believe these guys are worried about pulling too much of a gap.

I am pretty surprised nascar isn't looking over these cars closer. Its very interesting. its the 4 with SHR and the 18 with gibbs. 1 second a lap is well beyond a driver difference. Dare I say danica could run the 4 car within 1 second of what harvick could. its like these individual teams are hiding what they have even from the rest of their team mates.

Also what was up with all the failed inspections. this is getting pretty comical. 15 cars failing inspection and many not even taking a lap? nascar looks pretty bush league lately to me.
 
Rev could come too but you can't take him anywhere without getting embarassed :lol2:

This is the truth.....but race cars are loud, so nobody can hear me, and everybody will be watching our boy win again, so nobody will see me. Now, the after party....this is where it gets embarrassing.
 
as I watched the final green flag laps after the last caution. did anyone else notice the lead kyle busch had? seriously it was 3 seconds. I know suarez and eric jones got to racing into turn 1 there. but seriously? 3 seconds?!?! never ever seen such a disparity in equipment in this sport. The 4 car probably could have gapped the field like that too. We need to keep in mind these guys aren't even having to run their cars hard when they are out front. What we saw in those final laps was kyle actually stepping on the gas. These guys are minding the gap behind them. Jeff gordan admitted to doing the same thing 20 years ago. You better believe these guys are worried about pulling too much of a gap.

I am pretty surprised nascar isn't looking over these cars closer. Its very interesting. its the 4 with SHR and the 18 with gibbs. 1 second a lap is well beyond a driver difference. Dare I say danica could run the 4 car within 1 second of what harvick could. its like these individual teams are hiding what they have even from the rest of their team mates.

Also what was up with all the failed inspections. this is getting pretty comical. 15 cars failing inspection and many not even taking a lap? nascar looks pretty bush league lately to me.
What? o_O
 


And to think there use to be steel boiler plate walls all around the track! Cars would tear through it all the time. The turn 1 Sacks/Speed wreck in 1989 is STILL the hardest hit I've ever seen in NASCAR. I believe the track added concrete walls in the turns in 1990 and then around the rest of the track in 1991.

I remember vividly when Rusty Wallace blew a tire in '99 or '00 going into 1. Schrader flipped down there in 2002 or so. Then there's the more recent ones of Gordon, Johnson and now Wallace.
 
Damn.
He would’ve broke a hell of a lot more without the SAFER.

Guys have hit harder and walked away. The most important factor being it wasn't a drivers side hit. Still, safer barriers have been an amazing asset to this sport.

Seeing that wall also takes me back to Steve Grissom's accident at Atlanta 1997. He cracked the wall. Jeff Burton also cracked the concrete wall at Dover in 1994 after blowing a tire coming out of 4. It's crazy the force these guys hit with past and present.
 
Guys have hit harder and walked away. The most important factor being it wasn't a drivers side hit. Still, safer barriers have been an amazing asset to this sport.

Seeing that wall also takes me back to Steve Grissom's accident at Atlanta 1997. He cracked the wall. Jeff Burton also cracked the concrete wall at Dover in 1994 after blowing a tire coming out of 4. It's crazy the force these guys hit with past and present.
Was that the Grissom wreck when the fuel cell came out of the car?
 
Guy working the throttle and the wheel makes all the difference
Only when its Kyle. Somewhere beneath your bias, I know you can recognize a car that makes better downforce than the cars around. That said, Kyle is way better than those two.

I know all KB fans share that similar expressive, self validating, reaction formation cognitive schema (just as fans of other drivers share similar fan traits that mannifest from their personality)...but at some point, the act you guys inadvertently put on in result of his reception and personality has to drop right?

Kyle is one of the 10-15 best ever. Surely you realize his case as GOAT takes a big hit when he was out titled by two drivers during 10 years of his prime, and out won by another driver who has a legit GOAT resume (god forbid there be a superior driver).

You fans hurt your driver's objective greatness. We know he's great, but it's hard to truly appreciate his greatness when his fans gloat like a bunch of drunk Patriots fans with their fingers in their ears. Like it or not, this is the truth. Kyle is amazing

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