Charlie Spencer
Road courses and short tracks.
That's probably why I don't enjoy dirt racing or drag racing.... In dirt racing, because the races are short and don't require pitting or strategy, pure speed wins every race. ...
That's probably why I don't enjoy dirt racing or drag racing.... In dirt racing, because the races are short and don't require pitting or strategy, pure speed wins every race. ...
The number of Nascar winners are skewed for sure as between plate winners, fuel mileage winners and the cautions near the end of races that deny the likely winner things are not quite as they appear. It is the same thing with listing the number of cars finishing in the lead lap as with scheduled and unscheduled cautions, free passes and wave arounds IDK how 30 cars a race are not on the lead lap at the end.
If this post makes you mad please count to 10 and don't respond to it as it ain't worth it. Let it go!
Pure luck is more like it sometimes. With no clutch or reverse in Sprint cars, many times a car will get hung up on a backmarker during a wreck and have to sit there while the survivors idle around the track until somebody gets over there to push them off.A few of the winners this year were due to strategy or luck. In dirt racing, because the races are short and don't require pitting or strategy, pure speed wins every race. That's why 3 or 4 guys dominate on dirt, and pit stop strategy is why Newman and Dillon have wins this year in cup.
I go to 50 dirt races a year and that happens at maybe 2 of them. Majority of the time, speed wins.Pure luck is more like it sometimes. With no clutch or reverse in Sprint cars, many times a car will get hung up on a backmarker during a wreck and have to sit there while the survivors idle around the track until somebody gets over there to push them off.
I don't understand the desparation for WiFi. If you have a halfway decent data plan, what's the issue? It's 2017, there is 4G available almost everywhere.
My experience at the race track, during the event, is basically zero data service. There are a lot of people fighting over bandwidth at those events. Temp cell towers are brought in and placed around the area to help with service but it's noticeable lacking. Posting this as a Verizon customer.
I can understand wanting to take pictures. I don't get wanting to upload them while the race is still being run. Maybe at a caution, I guess, but not under green.
Maybe this ties into something I never understood about that football game at Bristol last year. Almost everyone agreed in advance the visibility would suck, but tens of thousands admitted going so they could 'say I was there'. I get the impression no one is interested any more in the event they paid money to attend, only interested in documenting their attendance. What actually happened, whether it was even seen, is irrelevant.
nope try again
Live sports is not attracting new, younger viewers...no sport is immune
Really? A thirteen year old has 0 tolerance for something that interfere's with her agenda? Well mercy me. Surprise surprise.Our youngest of 3 is now 13 years old next month. She has ZERO tolerance for commercials.
Oh, agreed. I don't have to understand why others want it, I'm not a track operator. Its presence certainly doesn't interfere with how I watch a race.I understand what you are saying as communicating with others or uploading pics at an event is not even on my radar and blasting out to others what I am doing is not a thought. However if good WiFi is important for race attenders it is something the tracks need to take care of ASAP.
Thanks. Some of those hadn't occurred to me.WiFi at the track is far more useful than for just sending a pic or two to a friend. I used to subscribe to raceview. It was a great service as an add on to what you get to see on television. It would also be great to use at the track for the same reason. Real-time stats, lap times and the like are interesting to many fans, including me. Lack of bandwidth at the track render that option useless. It’s not a make or break for me to attend a race, but it’s a nice option to have.
As far as taking a pic of the at track experience goes..... While it may not be for some, it sure is a great way to share an experience that you can’t get as a television viewer. I’ve shared pics of my trips to the track, from the stands, infield, garage area and parking lot. Feedback is generally positive. What better advertisement can there be than being able to let others that are interested or possibly interested get theat track experience? All part of fixing attendance IMO.
You wanna fix attendance, buy a ticket and enjoy the hell out of a great NASCAR weekend.
My father is still alive but not physically up to several hours at the track any more. For his last several races, we targeted seats that were on the same level as the concourse entrances or elevators, trying to minimize the amount of stair climbing.I don't think there's anything that can get me back to the track --- unfortunately.
Before my husband's illness, we'd given up going because the stair-climbing was just too hard on the knees.
After his death, my income was cut in half, so there is no way I can afford the expenses(hotel, race ticket, food, plane ticket).
And I still have 2 tracks on my bucket list --- but those look out of reach for me.
And believe me, if I could go "live", I would be there.
I don't think there's anything that can get me back to the track --- unfortunately.
Before my husband's illness, we'd given up going because the stair-climbing was just too hard on the knees.
After his death, my income was cut in half, so there is no way I can afford the expenses(hotel, race ticket, food, plane ticket).
And I still have 2 tracks on my bucket list --- but those look out of reach for me.
And believe me, if I could go "live", I would be there.
Lots of empty aluminum...Seeing this is the fix attendance thread I would say Martinsville could use a little bit of enhancing for the fans experience as they obviously did not sell 55K tickets.
Apparently, a lot of people don't attend the races:most of the "fixers" don't attend races. .
Apparently, a lot of people don't attend the races:
Yes I agree. Just watched the last 25 laps or so again, just amazing stuff going on all around the track. It’s a shame this series doesn’t race at The Rock and Wilkesboro, that’s what will fix attendance more tracks like those instead of a Roval. I wish Cup raced at Martinsville 4 times a year.The answer to the original thread question..... More races like Martinsville.
Thread closed.
Andy Hillenburg would agree. It sure would be nice to see them race there but even when given the chance at resurrection, fans stayed away from Rockingham. Those two facilities are a dead issue at this point. We ain't going back. Heck, the best of the short tracks was on display yesterday and many stayed away. More than likely the weather had a lot to do with that.Yes I agree. Just watched the last 25 laps or so again, just amazing stuff going on all around the track. It’s a shame this series doesn’t race at The Rock and Wilkesboro, that’s what will fix attendance more tracks like those instead of a Roval. I wish Cup raced at Martinsville 4 times a year.
Yes I agree. Just watched the last 25 laps or so again, just amazing stuff going on all around the track. It’s a shame this series doesn’t race at The Rock and Wilkesboro, that’s what will fix attendance more tracks like those instead of a Roval. I wish Cup raced at Martinsville 4 times a year.
I feel like many fans are staying away despite the type of track, it’s just not limited to short tracks on the scheduleAndy Hillenburg would agree. It sure would be nice to see them race there but even when given the chance at resurrection, fans stayed away from Rockingham. Those two facilities are a dead issue at this point. We ain't going back. Heck, the best of the short tracks was on display yesterday and many stayed away. More than likely the weather had a lot to do with that.
I just feel like attendance is down in everything, many people are opting to just watch events from home. Tracks over built themselves and the demand isn’t there, what if some of these places downsized, now I don’t know if that’s healthy for the sport itself but would it create a demand or sense of urgency to get people out to a Cup short track?On these boards we love our short tracks and cannot even fathom why every other Nascar fan isn't screaming for more of them. Unfortunately based on attendance and ratings they are not loved by the general populace as my guess is that Martinsville had around 40K spectators and between 2.5 and 3 million viewers from home yesterday. That is not bad at all but way under what some of the other races do in attendance and viewing from home.
I just feel like attendance is down in everything, many people are opting to just watch events from home. Tracks over built themselves and the demand isn’t there, what if some of these places downsized, now I don’t know if that’s healthy for the sport itself but would it create a demand or sense of urgency to get people out to a Cup short track?
might be why ESPN picked up F-1 for a song, more profit as football ratings continue to fallThis is an opinion piece. It lays out why ESPN might walk away from the NFL. I'd be looking at this if I was NASCAR.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/why-espn-could-abandon-nfl-football-guest-column-1052792
Weather must have had a good bit to do with attendance as a number of seats in our section were shown as sold but empty . Forecast was wind warnings, rain showers, and cold.
This is an opinion piece. It lays out why ESPN might walk away from the NFL. I'd be looking at this if I was NASCAR.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/why-espn-could-abandon-nfl-football-guest-column-1052792
Checks Dish Network channel lineup for the Bo Diddley Network and the reconstituted Noggin channel. Looks like I'm all set. I pay for those two as well. Not surprised @ all.The most baffling thing for me with the current broadcast deal with Nascar is that there was no competition for the rights. ESPN couldn't run away fast enough and neither could TNT so the fact that FOX and NBC gave Nascar a blank check is absolutely amazing.
I think Nascar will always have a few events on over the air stations but as more time goes by the bulk of the races may end up on the Bo Diddley Network or the reconstituted Noggin channel.
Weather must have had a good bit to do with attendance as a number of seats in our section were shown as sold but empty . Forecast was wind warnings, rain showers, and cold.
Yep --- I'm paying DirecTV for them, also. I'll make sure to have them on my list of preferred channels. ROTFLChecks Dish Network channel lineup for the Bo Diddley Network and the reconstituted Noggin channel. Looks like I'm all set. I pay for those two as well. Not surprised @ all.
They were talking about people not going to the race all day Friday on NASCAR radio. That leads me to believe that they knew it was going to be a lackluster gate and was going to look bad on TV.
Unfortunately, having to shoot the cars the way they do now, to limit the lack of crowd, makes it very hard to see how is the sponsor of the car.
Checks Dish Network channel lineup for the Bo Diddley Network and the reconstituted Noggin channel. Looks like I'm all set. I pay for those two as well. Not surprised @ all.
Interesting piece, but to me it says more about ESPN's issues than the NFL's (or other sports by extension). ESPN has one game a week, and I assume the two ABC playoff games are on the same contract. That's about 6% of the NFL's 'inventory'. It's not like CBS or Fox is considering dropping pro football.This is an opinion piece. It lays out why ESPN might walk away from the NFL. I'd be looking at this if I was NASCAR.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/why-espn-could-abandon-nfl-football-guest-column-1052792
I watched the Bo Diddley Network back when they first started and played his music all the time. Now it's just reality programming and that kind of crap.Checks Dish Network channel lineup for the Bo Diddley Network and the reconstituted Noggin channel. Looks like I'm all set. I pay for those two as well. Not surprised @ all.
This is an opinion piece. It lays out why ESPN might walk away from the NFL. I'd be looking at this if I was NASCAR.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/why-espn-could-abandon-nfl-football-guest-column-1052792