Has Kevin Harvick (at age 43) Lost A Step?

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As for what happened on the race track, Harvick driving Chase Elliott up to the wall was just another episode of Yap Yap's Dirty Driving... don't even try to pass him clean, just door slam him off the racing line.

When Larson's slide job on Harvick came up a couple inches short, Kevin had a legitimate shot to wreck Larson, but he failed to get the job done. It seemed to me... his reaction was slow, he's lost a step.
 

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Harvick was owed much worse. If Elliott wasn't a nice guy, Harvick had a door slam coming similar to what he dished out. Instead, all Elliott intended to do was make it difficult for Harvick to pass him again.

Kev got off easy, then still through a tantrum about it, while always making sure he had extra protection present. This is a man so insecure and desperate to prove that he can scare, well, anyone that he took to threatening reporters.

Anyone still buying the tough guy act has blinders on, that's for sure.
 

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Harvick was owed much worse. If Elliott wasn't a nice guy, Harvick had a door slam coming similar to what he dished out. Instead, all Elliott intended to do was make it difficult for Harvick to pass him again.

Kev got off easy, then still through a tantrum about it, while always making sure he had extra protection present. This is a man so insecure and desperate to prove that he can scare, well, anyone that he took to threatening reporters.

Anyone still buying the tough guy act has blinders on, that's for sure.
But he has mr potato head crazy eyes!
 

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It’s so hard when you like both drivers involved lol. Kevin is surely in my top 5 current favorites. **** happens.
 

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So here’s my take (and I’m a major Chase Elliott fan):

Harvick was better in the long runs than most. He had gained in Chase. When he made the pass, both went for some of the same real estate. Harvick seemed to lean in a bit but that can also be from momentum in the track. More of a racing deal than anything.

Chase comes back out gives a little side kiss when going around, then proceeds to block for his team. It’s what they all do. Happy wasn’t getting back around Chase (with his fresher tires) and Larson just needed the opportunity.

It’s Bristol and rubbin’ is racin’. On to next week.
 

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A lot is being made of “Chase made a lane that wasnt there”

No.

This isnt old Bristol. There is more than 1 lane. Harvick tried to use the lapper as a pick and Chase knows that won’t work anymore. Harvick didn’t anticipate that Chase would use another lane and over drove the turn. Just bad judgement and racing with bad old habits.
 

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Pssst: Kevin never kicked anyone’s ass. All talk.
I know, but I was just going with the legend. He sure looks like a guy who might kick somebody's ass, but you are right. 🤣
 

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A lot is being made of “Chase made a lane that wasnt there”

No.

This isnt old Bristol. There is more than 1 lane. Harvick tried to use the lapper as a pick and Chase knows that won’t work anymore. Harvick didn’t anticipate that Chase would use another lane and over drove the turn. Just bad judgement and racing with bad old habits.
I will politely disagree. Harvick had the advantage, keep in mind it was Harvick's exhaust that cut the spoiled brats left front tire...and that happened from the silver spoon entitled kid going for a hole that was not there.

NASCAR should dock Elliot twenty five points for blocking after being warned three times (he actually was given it eight times by my count) by the flagman with the move over flag. And just in case any one forgets, NASCAR has black flagged team mates in the past for influencing the out come of a race.

Harvick had every right to own the real estate he took, Elliot, well not so much...but he is one of the medial darlings and NASCAR will protect the little chit.
 

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So here’s my take (and I’m a major Chase Elliott fan):

Harvick was better in the long runs than most. He had gained in Chase. When he made the pass, both went for some of the same real estate. Harvick seemed to lean in a bit but that can also be from momentum in the track. More of a racing deal than anything.

Chase comes back out gives a little side kiss when going around, then proceeds to block for his team. It’s what they all do. Happy wasn’t getting back around Chase (with his fresher tires) and Larson just needed the opportunity.

It’s Bristol and rubbin’ is racin’. On to next week.
Or, we could go with the Chase was pissed, and drove like a dick to ruin Harvick's race....that happens too. The thing is....He might not want Larson to get hot if I wants to repeat. Poor judgment IMO for the big picture. Harvick will not win this Championship.
 

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I will politely disagree. Harvick had the advantage, keep in mind it was Harvick's exhaust that cut the spoiled brats left front tire...and that happened from the silver spoon entitled kid going for a hole that was not there.

NASCAR should dock Elliot twenty five points for blocking after being warned three times (he actually was given it eight times by my count) by the flagman with the move over flag. And just in case any one forgets, NASCAR has black flagged team mates in the past for influencing the out come of a race.

Harvick had every right to own the real estate he took, Elliot, well not so much...but he is one of the medial darlings and NASCAR will protect the little chit.
I’m going to label this as the hottest take in R-F history lmao
 

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The bigger question to me is why in the hell is there a NASCAR official and security there? If this is part of the sport, let them have at it. I just don't get it. Did NASCAR and security follow them into the hauler? No. Then, why the bull**** show?
 

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I’m going to label this as the hottest take in R-F history lmao

It's really funny reading the comments from the anti-Hendrick guys whenever something like this happens. They are so salty and jealous of Chase Elliott's success. Just like they were jealous of Jimmie Johnson, just like they were jealous of Jeff Gordon.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.
 

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They are so salty and jealous of Chase Elliott's success.
Won't consider myself anti-Hendrick, but I will chime in. Before he won , he tried so hard. Now, that he has won, he drives the cleanest/with the most class, and wins with a nobility that only Jesus Christ himself couldn't attain. Chase--like every driver--has a brand that some don't like.
 

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Won't consider myself anti-Hendrick, but I will chime in. Before he won , he tried so hard. Now, that he has won, he drives the cleanest/with the most class, and wins with a nobility that only Jesus Christ himself couldn't attain. Chase--like every driver--has a brand that some don't like.

You're looking for something that's not there.
 

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I will politely disagree. Harvick had the advantage, keep in mind it was Harvick's exhaust that cut the spoiled brats left front tire...and that happened from the silver spoon entitled kid going for a hole that was not there.

Harvick had every right to own the real estate he took, Elliot, well not so much...but he is one of the medial darlings and NASCAR will protect the little chit.

Such a load of crap. Regardless of whatever move Chase made, Harvick lost the back end of his car, slid into Chase and cut his tire. Intentional? No, but sometimes there are consequences to your actions, intentional or not. Look, Elliott fan or not, I just call them as I see them. Chase was totally in the wrong last year at Bristol when he walled Logano, and I thought what he did to Matty D at Daytona a few weeks ago, was a **** move, but Chase didn't do a damn thing wrong last night. Harvick's attempt to wipe out Larson just shows what he's made of. I don't hate Harvick, but is as guilty of doing BS stuff and then getting all high and mighty about it as anybody that has been around the last twenty years.

Your comments about Chase being a spoiled brat are WAY off base too. All the guy ever does is show up and drive the wheel off his race car. He's not out running his mouth and trying to draw attention to himself, and if people would stop running into him, you would hardly ever hear a peep out of him. Also don't get to choose who your parents are. Whatever you think of him, all he has ever done is get results at EVERY level he has ever raced, which is a hell of a lot more than you can say about most of the offspring famous drivers.
 

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It's really funny reading the comments from the anti-Hendrick guys whenever something like this happens. They are so salty and jealous of Chase Elliott's success. Just like they were jealous of Jimmie Johnson, just like they were jealous of Jeff Gordon.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

I'm in a weird spot. I have never rooted for Hendrick as an organization. I'm definitely more pro-TSR by default, and I wish Stewart had been allowed to sign Larson so that I could root for him unreservedly.

I just know that Kevin Harvick is a paper tiger, and that there has never been a bigger poser in terms of toughness. Most of the current drivers openly admit they aren't fighters and aren't equipped to do so. Nothing wrong with that. Harvick's image is a fraud, and I'll never tire of pointing this out.

This isn't new. Helmet Harvick had to protect his face from Joey Logano too.

 

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Elliott was laps down.

But he’s “making lanes”.
Only laps down, because Harvick couldn't control his car and cut down Chase's tire. :idunno:He ruined Chase's race, so Chase ruined his. All's fair.

It be different if Harv didn't do anything and Chase was just holding him up.
 

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Only laps down, because Harvick couldn't control his car and cut down Chase's tire. :idunno:He ruined Chase's race, so Chase ruined his. All's fair.

It be different if Harv didn't do anything and Chase was just holding him up.
There is no difference and it doesn’t matter who the players are.

How many times does the blue flag have to wave?
 

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A lot is being made of “Chase made a lane that wasnt there”

No.

This isnt old Bristol. There is more than 1 lane. Harvick tried to use the lapper as a pick and Chase knows that won’t work anymore. Harvick didn’t anticipate that Chase would use another lane and over drove the turn. Just bad judgement and racing with bad old habits.

Picking DOES work. It's worked every time we are here and worked a handful of times throughout the race last night.

Chase did make a lane that wasn't there by forcing he and Kevin 3 wide into the corner, inside of that lapped car. Both drivers over agressively attacked that corner, Harvick lost his nose, since he didn't check up, (he should have) and washed up into Chase. Chase pinned him down, which Harvick probably didn't expect, and Kevin over drove it relative to the room he had at the time.

I can only speak for myself, but Chase sort of forcing his way down there and creating a lane does not mean it was wrong, or unsportsmanlike like. He wasn't a victim there either. It was a total racing incident. The slower car was trying to hold off the faster car for the win. It happens. I don't think that crowd (not all of us) are saying Chase was in the wrong, just that, neither driver really is. I


It seems like this was years in the making, apparently, according to a handful of Chase fans I've spoken with. I had no idea there was bad blood there.

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Where was all the outrage when Ross Chastain blocked Kyle Busch at Atlanta for Kurt to get by? Oh wait. That prevented Kyle Busch from winning so it was ok!

No penalty for that, and hopefully no penalty for this.
 

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Where was all the outrage when Ross Chastain blocked Kyle Busch at Atlanta for Kurt to get by? Oh wait. That prevented Kyle Busch from winning so it was ok!

No penalty for that, and hopefully no penalty for this.
I think a few people here was mad. Mainly Kyle fans lol.
 

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Where was all the outrage when Ross Chastain blocked Kyle Busch at Atlanta for Kurt to get by? Oh wait. That prevented Kyle Busch from winning so it was ok!

No penalty for that, and hopefully no penalty for this.
Well ross didn't have fresh tires (leaders had like 100 lap tires), drive around the leaders, then started blocking......


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It’s a shame Elliott didn’t clean Larson out while he was at it.

Racing like a punk is unbecoming of the current champ.
 

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Well ross didn't have fresh tires (leaders had like 100 lap tires), drive around the leaders, then started blocking......


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Kyle Busch hadn’t caused him to be laps down either.
 
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