How much longer for 7 Time?

AuzGrams said:
Oh come on. If Johnson is so comfortable then why have they changed multiple crew chiefs to get a spark going?
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Well they are obviously trying to fix that mindset, but it's more of something that Johnson is unaware of but is still happening to him.
 
Turtle84 said:
Fair enough, I may be reaching here. Just getting these thoughts out though...

Definitely an uphill battle critiquing anything on Jimmie's resume. I mean he's the most clutch driver I've ever seen. The more I review it...it's just unbelievable really.

The only questionable part I had was how far are we extending out his prime years to the point where he really starts tailing off? It seems it almost had 3 different stages, peak powers from 2006-2010 then some type of moderate fall off around 2014/2015, and then post 2017 severe drop off. I think I am starting to see what you're seeing performance wise for him on that. I still think it would be hard to attribute percentages for, is it driver/team decline or just a bad season?

On competition note, I noticed looking at JJ's career stats, the only time he missed out with dominating season long stats were, the 2012 BK season like you said, and his 2004 29 year old season to Kurt. Compare his numbers to last year's 4 and 18 car full season stats and we're looking awfully similar with 8 wins 20+ top 5s avg finish under 9 for KB and Harv. Just sayin'. Those are some mighty dominating numbers. And none of them ended up with a trophy (different discussion for sure).

I've been thinking about this too, but 2016 Homestead basically seals how much more clutch Jimmie has been than KB (in these moments). Small snippet, but it's almost the perfect matchup of the 18 going against the 48 after 22/19 wiping each other out, KB in his "prime" and JJ at the tail end, and Jimmie still came out on top for #7. That's a massive ding to Kyle when it comes to goat discussion vs JJ imo.

I think anything JJ related here is fair game, since it's mostly a wait and see prediction thread of when he may or may not hang it up, and how that may go.

It's been pretty painful watching him mid-packing it and the slow slide backward constantly. This is in direct contradiction to my OP rant on Jimmie, but it's still within the realm of possibility JJ has a serious resurgence if him and Cliff start clicking and HMS gains an edge on this package, or the next one. I find it an extremely tall order given the driving style issue and how quickly it would need to happen, but I hope he does prove me wrong, it would be awesome to see unfold. He's still in great physical shape, so that's a plus if he can get something going.
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Agreed on all accounts. And thanks for your thoughts.

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AuzGrams said:
Oh come on. If Johnson is so comfortable then why have they changed multiple crew chiefs to get a spark going?
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Yeah agreed. His attention may be becoming decided, but I wouldn't call it comfortable.

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AuzGrams said:
Oh come on. If Johnson is so comfortable then why have they changed multiple crew chiefs to get a spark going?
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Agreed. I think it's the opposite. He desperately wants an eighth championship and I think the wide gulf between his current reality and that goal is getting to him. Remember the roval?
 
Joker said:
Agreed. I think it's the opposite. He desperately wants an eighth championship and I think the wide gulf between his current reality and that goal is getting to him. Remember the roval?
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I think jerking crew chiefs around makes everybody at Hendrick wake up. They might be next going down the road.
 
StandOnIt said:
I think jerking crew chiefs around makes everybody at Hendrick wake up. They might be next going down the road.
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I know it's not really Hendrick style, but I have been wondering for some time if some heads didn't need to roll, but not necessarily crew chiefs. The cars themselves just don't seem to be good enough when they come off the truck, and lately it seems some of the preparation has gotten sloppy. I know technically the crew chief is ultimately responsible for these cars, but he's not the one doing the R&D, the chassis building, the body hanging and the car assembly.
 
Formerjackman said:
I know it's not really Hendrick style, but I have been wondering for some time if some heads didn't need to roll, but not necessarily crew chiefs. The cars themselves just don't seem to be good enough when they come off the truck, and lately it seems some of the preparation has gotten sloppy. I know technically the crew chief is ultimately responsible for these cars, but he's not the one doing the R&D, the chassis building, the body hanging and the car assembly.
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Hendrick moves people around and some find themselves in a closet with a phone is what I have seen over the years. It's rare to hear Jimmie comment about any personnel change like he has with this one.
 
StandOnIt said:
Hendrick moves people around and some find themselves in a closet with a phone is what I have seen over the years. It's rare to hear Jimmie comment about any personnel change like he has with this one.
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I don't disagree with that statement about moving people around. I have to wonder if it isn't actually time to can a couple of people, just to try to light a fire under the ones that remain.
 
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