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Maybe something like the Toyota Camry XSE Hybrid? Remember the snark about Toyota's lack of a pushrod on entry to the series? Yes, I am laughing now.Well, it looks like 2024 will be the last year for the Camaro and rumors are that the replacement will be an all-electric performance sedan.
How many years now has GM been saying “x year is the last year for the Camaro”?Well, it looks like 2024 will be the last year for the Camaro and rumors are that the replacement will be an all-electric performance sedan.
If NASCAR doesn't go down the electric/hybrid road, I can't imagine GM will remain committed to NASCAR and I feel like Ford will be in a similar situation.
?Maybe something like the Toyota Camry XSE Hybrid? Remember the snark about Toyota's lack of a pushrod on entry to the series? Yes, I am laughing now.
How many years now has GM been saying “x year is the last year for the Camaro”?
Maybe something like the Toyota Camry XSE Hybrid?
I can only imagine sitting at a dirt track watching electric sprint cars run around in 2050Well...it's here.
The rapid electrification of race cars and consumer cars has me worried about something no one's talking about. What do short tracks do across the country when there'll be no more 90s sedans to purchase and turn into an entry series car? No more street stocks or compacts? Do they go entirely to kit cars? Even with kit cars how long will manufacturers continue to produce highly specialized ICE engines for racing when they're going to be one of the few purchasers of ICE left.
These questions don't have to be answered tomorrow, but by 2030 we better have a road map in place because by 2040 the world of short track racing is going to have to go through a lot of major change.
I'll ask stupid questions. Why don't they buy newer cars? What's special about sedans from the '90s?What do short tracks do across the country when there'll be no more 90s sedans to purchase and turn into an entry series car?
Start being forward thinking rather then cling desperately to the ways of past embrace change. Someone should be working on an electric sprint car engine now.Well...it's here.
The rapid electrification of race cars and consumer cars has me worried about something no one's talking about. What do short tracks do across the country when there'll be no more 90s sedans to purchase and turn into an entry series car? No more street stocks or compacts? Do they go entirely to kit cars? Even with kit cars how long will manufacturers continue to produce highly specialized ICE engines for racing when they're going to be one of the few purchasers of ICE left.
These questions don't have to be answered tomorrow, but by 2030 we better have a road map in place because by 2040 the world of short track racing is going to have to go through a lot of major change.
I’d venture to guess $$? Usually in those classes people do without to race.I'll ask stupid questions. Why don't they buy newer cars? What's special about sedans from the '90s?
Technology by 2040 is going to develop rapidly and costs should dramatically drop.Well...it's here.
The rapid electrification of race cars and consumer cars has me worried about something no one's talking about. What do short tracks do across the country when there'll be no more 90s sedans to purchase and turn into an entry series car? No more street stocks or compacts? Do they go entirely to kit cars? Even with kit cars how long will manufacturers continue to produce highly specialized ICE engines for racing when they're going to be one of the few purchasers of ICE left.
These questions don't have to be answered tomorrow, but by 2030 we better have a road map in place because by 2040 the world of short track racing is going to have to go through a lot of major change.
Because the cars they're using have frames ... they're not unibodies.I'll ask stupid questions. Why don't they buy newer cars? What's special about sedans from the '90s?
Hahaha the disappearance of the sedan if anything is going to be an issue. It's going to basically going to have to be an Accord/Camry class unless they want to run the high powered Ford Ecosport and Chevy TraxTechnology by 2040 is going to develop rapidly and costs should dramatically drop.
By the time 2040 comes around, nobody on a short track will be racing 1990s sedans. They will be racing sedans from the 2010s.
Where'd he finish?For the record I have seen a Prius on a dirt track
Fix It Again, Tony!I'm in no Rush to get rid of my Uncles Red Barchetta..
Start being forward thinking rather then cling desperately to the ways of past embrace change. Someone should be working on an electric sprint car engine now.
I dont know who runs them except maybe the street stock / mini stock divisions, everything else pretty much are current model pre fab fiberglass bodiesI'll ask stupid questions. Why don't they buy newer cars? What's special about sedans from the '90s?
Yeah, only 15k new Camaros have been purchased so far this year through September, compared to 44k Challengers and 41k Mustangs.Well unless something drastic changes in the next year or so, I'm afraid they aren't lying.
Hell of a torque advantage.For the record I have seen a Prius on a dirt track
Those new fans will now be able to hear you talk to them about the finer details and nuances of what's going on. One sensory experience will replace another.The biggest disadvantage to a fully electric series is the loss of experience. Forever the mantra to create lifelong fans out of non-fans or casual fans was “just take them to a race”. The live experience is purely a sensory one. The sound of the engines and you can feel the power in your chest when they roar by.
More people are driving performance cars as daily drivers and the Camaro just sucks in that department compared to the competition. Low visibility, cramped interior, zero trunk space, etc… There also just arent that many for sale. Dealers know they dont sell so they dont order them or get shipments. It’s all SUVs. Why do you think they made the Blazer look like a Camaro?Yeah, only 15k new Camaros have been purchased so far this year through September, compared to 44k Challengers and 41k Mustangs.
Soon enough, oh trust and believe the changes are coming soon.Those new fans will now be able to hear you talk to them about the finer details and nuances of what's going on. One sensory experience will replace another.
@Kiante , get to work on scanners with Bluetooth. Lighter, more comfortable earbuds will replace full headsets. Sell your earplug stock.
I think another reason people don’t buy them….they’re kinda ugly. The 5th-Gen Camaro (2010-15) looked pretty good IMO, but they screwed it up with the 6th Gen, particularly the 2019 and up models.More people are driving performance cars as daily drivers and the Camaro just sucks in that department compared to the competition. Low visibility, cramped interior, zero trunk space, etc… There also just arent that many for sale. Dealers know they dont sell so they dont order them or get shipments. It’s all SUVs. Why do you think they made the Blazer look like a Camaro?
The biggest disadvantage to a fully electric series is the loss of experience. Forever the mantra to create lifelong fans out of non-fans or casual fans was “just take them to a race”. The live experience is purely a sensory one. The sound of the engines and you can feel the power in your chest when they roar by. The sights and smells, etc…
Making up for that sensory experience in an electric series will be a tall task IMO.
Formula-E is cool and all, but nothing beats the feeling of 30+ screaming V8s flying by.
Well we knew this was coming, the truth is our sport will die at a major league level if it doesn't electrify.
My question is what will GM race without a Camaro?
They can't race a Corvette, as translating a mid engined design to a front engine car would look just goofy.
But it would be running in an ICE series, which is kind of dumbThey will have a replacement for the Camaro, likely built off of the Cadillac sedan platform, and it'll be electric.
PR nightmare.But it would be running in an ICE series, which is kind of dumb
See Toyota SupraWell we knew this was coming, the truth is our sport will die at a major league level if it doesn't electrify.
My question is what will GM race without a Camaro?
They can't race a Corvette, as translating a mid engined design to a front engine car would look just goofy.
But it would be running in an ICE series, which is kind of dumb
That means all motorsports will need to electrify.It beats entering an Equinox lol
I agree it's kind of dumb, and I really don't know, I'm just assuming they would be on board if NASCAR agreed to integrate some kind of hybrid system but who really knows. I'm worried about GM's future involvement in motorsports with this electric obsession they have going on now
That means all motorsports will need to electrify.
I just will miss the loudness of the cars