Interest builds around possible changes to NASCAR schedule

2 Sweet said:
I'll keep saying it, if you're going to reconfigure anything, pick the worst track on the schedule. That is currently Texas and has always been Texas. Make it into a short track or remove it from the schedule altogether.
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Ah, no. That is/was Atlanta. It along with Texas has been repaved and reconfigured.
 
Kiante said:
Chicago during the summer is about as packed as they come. Many of summers as a child I spent there, its a great city to me.

Great market as well, but go ahead and have a field day about how crap it is.
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I’m not against a street course, but it needs to have longevity, identity, and an actual good race track. Long Beach and Trois-Rivières seem to be decent, but the rest are kinda so-so IMO.

Also if NASCAR runs another road course. I’d like to see the Brickyard/IMS oval back at least on a rotating every other year basis. Drivers still rave that they want to run the oval and I don’t blame them. Let’s not oversaturate the road courses.
 
hmmm298 said:
"Everything's bigger in Texas." Maybe we can get a 3 miler. :XXROFL: :XXROFL: :XXROFL: :dirtbike::booya::dual9mm::moon::moon::moon:
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iRacing Superspeedway in real life. Make it so. (it's a fictional track they throw into schedule once in a while. 3 mile super high banked oval, no restrictor plates. 230+ in Cup cars, carnage ensues)
 
Mispeedway15 said:
Nothing will top Chase Elliott getting drafted into war ever
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hey I'm looking closer to being right every day. Even now Nascar going to let show support on the cars. Has that EVER happened before for any conflict?
 
gnomesayin said:
There was excellent racing at California in the late '00s and through most of the' 10s until NA18D ruined it.

Short tracks are fun, but there is a risk of overplaying that hand in the same way that intermediates were over-built.
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Amen. I'm OK with half a dozen short track races sprinkled in as a spice, but to me they shouldn't go beyond that.

The announcement that the Fontana short track project has been snuffed out was cause for real celebration in my household. That was genuinely good news around here.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
"Snuffed out"? I heard an interview saying there was nothing currently scheduled. Did I miss something (again)?
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The proposed design was found to not be feasible for good racing, plus they want to keep certain areas of the track in-tact. So...the original short track proposal is toast but a reconfiguration is still in the talks
 
RacerrecaR said:
The proposed design was found to not be feasible for good racing, plus they want to keep certain areas of the track in-tact. So...the original short track proposal is toast but a reconfiguration is still in the talks
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Same person that told ya that this is Texas's last year as a track?
 
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“We had to pump the brakes a little bit with where we were going,” said Dave Allen, the president of Auto Club Speedway, transcript courtesy of Speed Sport. “We definitely are looking at the potential of changing the facility to a half-mile track. A lot of fans have said they want to see more short-track racing.

“So that’s what we’ve been looking at. The timetable has not been established as of yet. I hope as we get through the year, a little further, we’ll have a little bit more direction on that, but the excitement within the company to continue to strategize and to develop what that looks like moving forward is very, very strong.”

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Larry McReynolds Weighs in on Looming NASCAR Track Change

America's Crew Chief has weighed in on an important debate. Larry McReynolds has said that he is not in favor of changing Auto Club Speedway into a short track.
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Charlie Spencer said:
None of which sounds much like 'snuffed out'. More like 'put down in the ashtray to smolder.'
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You're probably right, especially after reading the quote provided by @StandOnIt. My comment was based on what Mike Joy said during the race, and what I heard him say may have been colored by my bias against expanding the number of short track races.

To me, Fontana is a great race track and totally unique on the Nascar circuit. It would be a crime against the sport of Nascar to tear it down to build yet another short track. (I do understand the economic principles of maximizing the value of surplus real estate... but I hope Nascar doesn't sacrifice the great Fontana racing to seek real estate gains. I also understand that some people regard "more beatin' and bangin'" as the Holy Grail of Nascar... but I'm not in that camp.
 
I’m not gonna lie, I think it’s silly they repaved & made Atlanta into a 510 speedway race now twice a year while Chicagoland is off the schedule which produced some of the best racing in its final years. I get that attendance wasn’t great it’s final couple years, but Chicago was one of the more underrated tracks before it closed

I guess we’ll see how Atlanta goes
 
Chicago had both poor attendance and an area that didn't really embrace racing. At least Atlanta politics want racing
 
wi_racefan said:
Chicago had both poor attendance and an area that didn't really embrace racing. At least Atlanta politics want racing
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I think playing the attendance card is a lazy argument because you can say most of the tracks on the schedule dont have great attendance. Why arnt those tracks axed off the schedule? What is the basis for attendance these days, selling out the place? If thats the case a whole lot of tracks can be left behind. The area absolutely embraced racing because 1.) I was there for all but 4 of the 19 Cup races, I saw the people show up 2.) The NASCAR Date (Cup, Xfinity, Trucks) kept getting moved around. Started in second weekend in July after Daytona for a while then moved to a night race ( which was awesome, wish it stayed that), moved to the first race of the Cup playoffs (2012 I believe. went back to a day race and Second week in September) which was a huge mistake because well... College football and Chicago Bears going on. I remember there was a year the race was opposite of a Bears home opener and an NFL Season opener. That failed then moved back to August, during the day which in the midwest is not optimal. They had the lights but didnt want to make it a night race for some reason. Im not saying people showing up shouldnt be a reason that NASCAR kept coming, it is. But NASCAR also failed the fanbase here by moving the race around constantly, not investigating more night racing for Cup and the track in its first years of existence erred by making people buy every single weekend of racing just to be able to buy a Cup ticket in
 
AuzGrams said:
I’m not gonna lie, I think it’s silly they repaved & made Atlanta into a 510 speedway race now twice a year
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OK, I thought I had a good understanding of NASCAR racing, but I don't have a clue what a "510" race is. Can someone explain for a novice?
 
wi_racefan said:
Chicago had both poor attendance and an area that didn't really embrace racing. At least Atlanta politics want racing
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The attendance card is kinda a lame argument IMO. Kansas & Atlanta both have so-so attendance for at least one of their races.

2018 Chicago wasn’t bad but not full. 2019 had rain storms in the area.

Kentucky did nothing but have great attendance & fanfare for all their races as well. Would I want these races at the expense of a non 1.5 mile track? No. But both of these races I would prefer over TWO races at Kansas & Atlanta. People talk about how the schedule needs more variety then they do that.
 
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Snappy D said:
I think playing the attendance card is a lazy argument because you can say most of the tracks on the schedule dont have great attendance. Why arnt those tracks axed off the schedule? What is the basis for attendance these days, selling out the place? If thats the case a whole lot of tracks can be left behind. The area absolutely embraced racing because 1.) I was there for all but 4 of the 19 Cup races, I saw the people show up 2.) The NASCAR Date (Cup, Xfinity, Trucks) kept getting moved around. Started in second weekend in July after Daytona for a while then moved to a night race ( which was awesome, wish it stayed that), moved to the first race of the Cup playoffs (2012 I believe. went back to a day race and Second week in September) which was a huge mistake because well... College football and Chicago Bears going on. I remember there was a year the race was opposite of a Bears home opener and an NFL Season opener. That failed then moved back to August, during the day which in the midwest is not optimal. They had the lights but didnt want to make it a night race for some reason. Im not saying people showing up shouldnt be a reason that NASCAR kept coming, it is. But NASCAR also failed the fanbase here by moving the race around constantly, not investigating more night racing for Cup and the track in its first years of existence erred by making people buy every single weekend of racing just to be able to buy a Cup ticket in
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Yep you make some very good points. Kansas & Atlanta sure benefitted by having two races a season didn’t it. 🙄 That whole less is more mentality & schedule variety doesn’t matter for those venues.
 
That is one of the reasons I quit going.
Snappy D said:
I think playing the attendance card is a lazy argument because you can say most of the tracks on the schedule dont have great attendance. Why arnt those tracks axed off the schedule? What is the basis for attendance these days, selling out the place? If thats the case a whole lot of tracks can be left behind. The area absolutely embraced racing because 1.) I was there for all but 4 of the 19 Cup races, I saw the people show up 2.) The NASCAR Date (Cup, Xfinity, Trucks) kept getting moved around. Started in second weekend in July after Daytona for a while then moved to a night race ( which was awesome, wish it stayed that), moved to the first race of the Cup playoffs (2012 I believe. went back to a day race and Second week in September) which was a huge mistake because well... College football and Chicago Bears going on. I remember there was a year the race was opposite of a Bears home opener and an NFL Season opener. That failed then moved back to August, during the day which in the midwest is not optimal. They had the lights but didnt want to make it a night race for some reason. Im not saying people showing up shouldnt be a reason that NASCAR kept coming, it is. But NASCAR also failed the fanbase here by moving the race around constantly, not investigating more night racing for Cup and the track in its first years of existence erred by making people buy every single weekend of racing just to be able to buy a Cup ticket in
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