Interest builds around possible changes to NASCAR schedule

Spotter22 said:
I wouldnt bet anything after the Contracts run out next year.
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Oh, I'll bet the Rock doesn't have a Cup race in '21. Anybody want a piece of that, let me know! That's a bet I'd love to lose.

They'll be doing well if they can get an X or Truck race by then, and NASCAR will want a couple of years to see what kind of numbers they can draw.
 
Privateer said:
Regarding the Olympic breaks, I imagine this is summer only and not winter which is a lesser event and in the early months of the year the series is on Fox, but what are they going to do with those 3 races every 4th year? They have to move them somewhere.
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Hey, run 'em at tracks near the Olympic host city! Assign each car randomly to a participating country. :p
 
The two week break during the Olympics makes no sense. NBC had NASCAR coverage during the 2002 Salt Lake games, the 2004 Athens games, the 2006 Torino games, and the 2016 Rio games.

NBC doesn't use USA or MSNBC for Olympic broadcasts anymore. Why not put NASCAR coverage on either of those networks?
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Indianapolis on 4th of July ... just like California before, how many traditions is NASCAR going to tear apart to make this work?
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Ya know, the Daytona 4th race is run at night. Last time I checked, Indy wasn't lit. I wonder how much of an affect that would have on the viewership on a summer afternoon?
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Oh, I'll bet the Rock doesn't have a Cup race in '21. Anybody want a piece of that, let me know! That's a bet I'd love to lose.

They'll be doing well if they can get an X or Truck race by then, and NASCAR will want a couple of years to see what kind of numbers they can draw.
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I would rather they start reconfiguring the cookie cutters into smaller tracks. i.e. if they ever decide to repave Chicago, just reconfigure the whole track into a Rockingham replica.
Turn Texas into an original Bristol configuration.
Bank the turns of NHMS to 15 or 20 degrees.
Make Kansas the next North Wilkesboro.
Put Atlanta back to the original oval configuration.

The locations of these tracks make them very desirable since they are next to major city centers, but the 1.5 mile track configurations don't work for NASCAR (They were meant for Indycar). Alternatively, Rockingham, NorthWilkesboro, etc. are great configurations but in terrible locations.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Ya know, the Daytona 4th race is run at night. Last time I checked, Indy wasn't lit. I wonder how much of an affect that would have on the viewership on a summer afternoon?
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Sunday afternoon races rate higher than Saturday night races. There's a reason Daytona was moved to Sunday night the year NBC took over.
 
KodiakRusty89 said:
Hurricane season is legit! I would never plan a trip along the Southeast coast in late August through early October. It seems like every year there's at least one weekend of college football that's affected by a tropical storm/hurricane. I was covering a game that Florence postponed last year.
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Hell, I was forced off Cape Cod by Irene. Nowhere on the coast is really totally safe that time of year.
 
I guess nobody should do anything close to the east coast for 6 months during hurricane season, for sure don't be holding any races there. o_O
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
No need to clone Rockingham when we're getting it back.
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Everyone is pretty sure it's happening. I wish I shared the optimism, I really want there to be a Cup race there in 2021. There's alot of smoke coming from their twitter feed but I'll be believe it when the green flag drops from there on a picture perfect North Carolina afternoon. I'll be happy if they get a standalone Xfinity/Trucks weekend combo.
 
LouieLouie said:
I would rather they start reconfiguring the cookie cutters into smaller tracks. i.e. if they ever decide to repave Chicago, just reconfigure the whole track into a Rockingham replica.
Turn Texas into an original Bristol configuration.
Bank the turns of NHMS to 15 or 20 degrees.
Make Kansas the next North Wilkesboro.
Put Atlanta back to the original oval configuration.

The locations of these tracks make them very desirable since they are next to major city centers, but the 1.5 mile track configurations don't work for NASCAR (They were meant for Indycar). Alternatively, Rockingham, NorthWilkesboro, etc. are great configurations but in terrible locations.
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I pray every race weekend when I attend my home track of Chicagoland that they shut the place down for a year and bulldoze it to make it a replica of North Wilkesboro Speedway. Complete with the quaint buildings/luxury suites they had in Turn's 3 and 4. Along with the elevation changes on the front/back stretches.
 
It's happening, and I'm really starting to lose my patience with NASCAR. I have put up with a lot of dumb **** over the past 10 years, the absolutely retarded looking COT, Spingate, Brian France publically endorsing Donald Trump, this playoff nonsense, stages, caution clocks, etc. But this is getting too much even for me to tolerate at this point
 
DewChaser988 said:
It's happening, and I'm really starting to lose my patience with NASCAR. I have put up with a lot of dumb sh!t over the past 10 years, the absolutely retarded looking COT, Spingate, Brian France publically endorsing Donald Trump, this playoff nonsense, stages, caution clocks, etc. But this is getting too much even for me to tolerate at this point
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You sound like you need to take a breath, settle down, and reassess. I've been pretty fed up myself at times, but many of these issues you cite aren't related. It was known the schedule is being revamped (and more so again in 2021}. I'm a fan of some possible changes and not of others, but I see nothing to panic about in this news.
 
gnomesayin said:
You sound like you need to take a breath, settle down, and reassess. I've been pretty fed up myself at times, but many of these issues you cite aren't related. It was known the schedule is being revamped (and more so again in 2021}. I'm a fan of some possible changes and not of others, but I see nothing to panic about in this news.
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curious.... you have a pretty good grasp and are pretty rational what of the changes do you like and dislike?
 
gnomesayin said:
You sound like you need to take a breath, settle down, and reassess. I've been pretty fed up myself at times, but many of these issues you cite aren't related. It was known the schedule is being revamped (and more so again in 2021}. I'm a fan of some possible changes and not of others, but I see nothing to panic about in this news.
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I was referring to more so the dumb decisions that NASCAR has made
 
Charlie Spencer said:
And as to having a race at Daytona when the kids are in school, it doesn't seem to bother NASCAR to have a race there in February.
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Lol you really don't get it. Those of us that live here do (I'm of course assuming that you don't). It's cool, agree to disagree.

It's honestly just another topic where the usual suspects that support every decision the sport makes or at the very least are indifferent, gather around to mock the ones that choose to take a passionate stance against said decisions. I'm always going to have a strong opinion, and my opinion is this decision is going to backfire and they'll be back in Daytona in July within 5 years.
 
I expect the Coke 600 to be moved from it's traditional Memorial Day weekend date soon as well, at this rate. Since NASCAR clearly could care less about tradition
 
AdoubleU24 said:
Lol you really don't get it. Those of us that live here do (I'm of course assuming that you don't). It's cool, agree to disagree.

It's honestly just another topic where the usual suspects that support every decision the sport makes or at the very least are indifferent, gather around to mock the ones that choose to take a passionate stance against said decisions. I'm always going to have a strong opinion, and my opinion is this decision is going to backfire and they'll be back in Daytona in July within 5 years.
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Yup. and some people plan their vacations in Daytona around this I do. Hell I planned my wedding around it this past year. Got married on a Friday, at the track on a Saturday with the family. It was awesome.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Indianapolis on 4th of July ... just like California before, how many traditions is NASCAR going to tear apart to make this work?
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Seems to me that you could make the argument that the D500 is the signature of event at Daytona and no matter how meaningful the July 4 event is to us race fans, it’s always a secondary race as far as the track is concerned. So from a marketing standpoint, perhaps tying a different track to July 4 can use the holiday to raise the profile of another event.

Nascar has been trying to raise the profile of the Brickyard race and the July 4 weekend might deliver that. I’m willing to see how it comes off - the whole celebration of America at Indy might be cool.
 
Snappy D said:
Yup. and some people plan their vacations in Daytona around this I do. Hell I planned my wedding around it this past year. Got married on a Friday, at the track on a Saturday with the family. It was awesome.
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I was planning on taking my dad up to Daytona one year as a Father's Day gift,
 
Privateer said:
There has been a run of Brickyard 400s where the forecast temperature was high 80s. I'm from eastern N.C. and I now live in Fort Wayne and agreed, the lack of humidity makes summers there for me a breeze, but all weather is relative. A Canadian can wear a T-shirt when it's 40 while a Floridian would be bundled up in a snowsuit.

Considering the rationale for where they moved the Brickyard 400 beginning only just last year, moving it to 4th of July weekend makes no sense.

Phoenix to the finale...is this NASCAR/ISC giving up on Homestead a bit? Remove the finale from Homestead and what special do they promote?
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I just left Ft Wayne as I was looking at some commercial property.

I’ve never looked at weather as being an impediment to seeing a sporting event. I would much rather be at Soldier Field in December than Darlington in August but the cooler the better for me.
 
AdoubleU24 said:
It's honestly just another topic where the usual suspects that support every decision the sport makes or at the very least are indifferent, gather around to mock the ones that choose to take a passionate stance against said decisions. I'm always going to have a strong opinion, and my opinion is this decision is going to backfire and they'll be back in Daytona in July within 5 years.
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Well I'm certainly not that :biggrin:. I'm quite disconnected from any enthusiasm about the July Daytona race, or the current racing at Daytona period. Obviously that colors my indifference on the subject, as I'd rather they run the road course or just about anything other than the status quo.

Almost nobody gets how big of a TV draw Indy is. Everyone focuses on attendance and fantasizes that the Brickyard is going to get canceled, which is nonsense. It is typically one of the two most watched races of the second half of the season, and that makes it a big deal for NBC, who has the less attractive half of the schedule. It was postponed last year in its fall debut, and this can't have made NBC happy. Weather considerations should mostly be left to avoiding inclement weather and delays when possible. It's too damn hot in 80% of the country for three months every year, and getting hotter.
 
gnomesayin said:
You sound like you need to take a breath, settle down, and reassess. I've been pretty fed up myself at times, but many of these issues you cite aren't related. It was known the schedule is being revamped (and more so again in 2021}. I'm a fan of some possible changes and not of others, but I see nothing to panic about in this news.
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I won’t be attending any races so from a selfish standpoint it doesn’t matter to me when and where they run the races. They could all be run live at 2:00am as the DVR records just as easily then as it does in the afternoon.
 
DewChaser988 said:
I expect the Coke 600 to be moved from it's traditional Memorial Day weekend date soon as well, at this rate. Since NASCAR clearly could care less about tradition
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The 500, the 600, and the Southern 500 are probably the only permanent races on the calendar at this point - they won’t move those. (They moved Darlington in the past and thankfully that was corrected, they won’t do it again). Memorial Day at CMS is not only a tradition but with the AS race, it gives the whole operation a few weeks “at home”. They won’t move it.
 
IanMcVittie said:
I won’t be attending any races so from a selfish standpoint it doesn’t matter to me when and where they run the races. They could all be run live at 2:00am as the DVR records just as easily then as it does in the afternoon.
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so no at the track report?
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Same as almost all other televised sports.
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Ehh Idk if TV influences as much elsewhere as they do in NASCAR. Date equity for individual events isn’t screwed up by networks anywhere else as far as I know, nor are constant format tweaks that fundamentally alter the competition aspects of the sport.
 
LouieLouie said:
I would rather they start reconfiguring the cookie cutters into smaller tracks. i.e. if they ever decide to repave Chicago, just reconfigure the whole track into a Rockingham replica.
Turn Texas into an original Bristol configuration.
Bank the turns of NHMS to 15 or 20 degrees.
Make Kansas the next North Wilkesboro.
Put Atlanta back to the original oval configuration.
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This is something that should be considered but not downsizing them as much. Most just need to loose the D shape.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Sunday afternoon races rate higher than Saturday night races. There's a reason Daytona was moved to Sunday night the year NBC took over.
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That’s true, but didn’t (maybe they still do) they also have some big fireworks show on the actual 4th, which was a Saturday?
 
Snappy D said:
curious.... you have a pretty good grasp and are pretty rational what of the changes do you like and dislike?
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I'll get back to you after the actual schedule is announced. I view the whole playoffs format with extreme skepticism, so shuffling dates around that affect it draws a shrug from me. I'm more interested in individual races, and what venues and dates could be added or subtracted starting in 2021.
 
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