Interest builds around possible changes to NASCAR schedule

kkfan91 said:
I mean thats just dirt racing. However in my experience sprint cars throw a lot more dirt being open wheel vs late models where a lot of whats thrown seems to get caught under the car.
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Good marketing. “First 500 fans get a free pair of goggles at the gate”. Merch haulers have driver themed goggles for purchase. Would make for excellent social media content and kids can keep their goggles forever.
 
kkfan91 said:
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This is certainly better than the "dump slot" they placed it for this year. Still in the middle of high season so hotel costs are to the moon.

I hope the tracks embark on a strategy to reduce ticket pricing in 2021 by about 20% or more. Yes it cuts into revenue but nothing can compare to the debacle of this year. Want fans back? Create INCENTIVES!
 
Switchback said:
Exactly, the stages have greatly hurt road course racing.
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I remember Sonoma where William Byron looked DOMINANT a year or two ago, but was forced to give up the track position due to being close to the cutoff line for the playoffs when the stage break came and having to go for the stage points vs strategy by half the field pitting before the caution.
That soured me on road course stages, and I still think that would have been his first win.

I believe his teammate Chase won that race, but it may have been Truex.
 
Snappy D said:
always thought this move would make total sense, start the season in Florida and from there with a stop in Atlanta (and Rockingham. I kid) before heading West.
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I do wish they would go back to Rockingham it was always one of my favorites as a kid. I never was old enough to watch North Wilkesboro when they still went there but have watched some older races on tv/YouTube and loved it as well.
 
Ugh sounds to me like they want to turn the Food City 500 into the dirt race. Hard Pass. Also looks like there might not be too much of a shake up for this first chunk which I imagine includes the first portion of the year because I’m sure new tracks would have leaked out already. COTA was the first rumor of a new track I believe this close to the announcement
 
It would be interesting to see how the dirt surface holds up after 25 pounding laps from 40 cars that weigh 2 1/2 times as much as the WOO sprinters that ran at Bristol a few years ago. I think they started 24 in the A Main.

I'm not too optimistic.
 
In the past, no other facility has indicated an interest in hosting a dirt race. It would have to be a short track; anything else would likely require too much dirt and accompanying logistical issues. I suspect the turns at Martinsville are too tight, but I am not speaking from any level of experience at all.

Obviously, if NASCAR insists it needs a dirt race on the Cup schedule, the sensible thing to do is to find an existing dirt track. The key word, of course, is 'sensible'.
 
2 Sweet said:
Why are they screwing with the Bristol races? If they insist on running a Cup race on dirt, do it somewhere else
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This. Times 100. If they want a dirt race so bad...then go to an already existing dirt track. I would be more than okay trying that rather then messing with a Bristol race.
 
Which of the many dirt-surfaced racetracks in North America can accommodate 40 Cup teams?

And 30 or 40 thousand post-Covid19 fans?
 
aunty dive said:
It would be interesting to see how the dirt surface holds up after 25 pounding laps from 40 cars that weigh 2 1/2 times as much as the WOO sprinters that ran at Bristol a few years ago. I think they started 24 in the A Main.

I'm not too optimistic.
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A raceable dirt track can be prepared and hard packed for a longer race. But by longer, I mean 100 lap late model races. They raced there too in 2000, and the track prep was excellent.



But those cars weigh 2400 lbs, not 3400. It is hard for me to envision even the best prepared surface lasting more than 150 or 200 laps before they're just racing on rubber. Is that enough? Would be for me, but I'd rather the experiment not replace a conventional Bristol race.
 
Is the all star race still in Bristol next year? They usually use that to test new stuff.
 
Chicago should not lose its date.

Kentucky that sucks for due to it being a popular track for fans to attend. The racing not so much, but eh.

Making these schedules are a rough business and Chicagoland has put on some fine races as of late.
 
Snappy D said:
Well take this with a grain of salt. However way you slice it, there’s just a lot of smoke around my home track of Chicagoland. DBC is the Door Bumper Clear podcast
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Lends credibility to the Road America thing. Hasn't NASCAR talked about a street course race in Chicago?

Not sure there's a need for Kentucky with races at Indianapolis and Nashville. Wouldn't mind seeing Gateway added either.

Road courses suck now with stage racing.
 
Kentucky I don’t care too much about, Chicagoland dropping would be a bummer but not surprising given the constant speculation this year.

Unfortunately without Cup dates I think these tracks are mostly screwed.
 
Snappy D said:
always thought this move would make total sense, start the season in Florida and from there with a stop in Atlanta (and Rockingham. I kid) before heading West.
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Many moons again when I came out with a proposed schedule shake-up, I had Homestead after Daytona. It makes the most sense. Start in Florida, go out west, then come back for Texas, Atlanta, and the short tracks.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Lends credibility to the Road America thing. Hasn't NASCAR talked about a street course race in Chicago?

Not sure there's a need for Kentucky with races at Indianapolis and Nashville. Wouldn't mind seeing Gateway added either.

Road courses suck now with stage racing.
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I don’t at all see a street race here in the city or around Soldier Field because Chicago is constantly crying broke as well as other logistical hurdles around Soldier Field like the Chicago Park District. I would be the most surprised if that race got approved, if they leave Chicagoland might as well leave the state I guess. This is a huge bummer and a shot in the gut to those of us like myself who supported the track initially as my parents bought the “season ticket pass” which you had to buy to get Cup tickets back in the day. That was wild watching my dad shell out $1200 for Trucks, ARCA, Busch and Indy Car races just to get Cup. We lived 25 min away, so no lodging. I took over the tickets in recent years and no complaints, I’ve probably only missed about 5 races in the almost 20 years they’ve been racing there. I’ll still support NASCAR by trying to go to 1-2 races a year because I love it but it really makes me angry losing a home track and a pretty nice facility like Chicagoland. Sucks loving and giving support to something only to have it ripped away, but I guess that’s big league sports right?
 
MRM said:
Many moons again when I came out with a proposed schedule shake-up, I had Homestead after Daytona. It makes the most sense. Start in Florida, go out west, then come back for Texas, Atlanta, and the short tracks.
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I'd like to see them add a short track in June or July. (Loudon isn't a short track.)

Glad to see NASCAR is finally trading out Brobdingnagians for short tracks and road courses.
 
gnomesayin said:
A raceable dirt track can be prepared and hard packed for a longer race. But by longer, I mean 100 lap late model races. They raced there too in 2000, and the track prep was excellent.



But those cars weigh 2400 lbs, not 3400. It is hard for me to envision even the best prepared surface lasting more than 150 or 200 laps before they're just racing on rubber. Is that enough? Would be for me, but I'd rather the experiment not replace a conventional Bristol race.
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If you want Cup cars on dirt, they need to go to Springfield or Du Quoin, (Illinois) which are flat dirt miles. I'm not much of a dirt guy, but those tracks handle the ARCA (Cup) cars, and the show is not too bad.
 
I wonder if dropping Chicagoland and Kentucky is to help Indianapolis attendance more than anything else. It's great having a Cup race an hour from my house, but as noted above, the racing has never been that great at Kentucky.
 
Snappy D said:
Well take this with a grain of salt. However way you slice it, there’s just a lot of smoke around my home track of Chicagoland. DBC is the Door Bumper Clear podcast
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That SUCKS!

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One of the big drivers in these changes is our partnership with Camping World. Because of that tracks like Michigan and Road America are more desirable because they’re premier camping destinations.

It’s something many need to consider with NASCAR, Camping is such a huge part of the race weekend for many unlike other sports.
 
Snappy D said:
I don’t at all see a street race here in the city or around Soldier Field because Chicago is constantly crying broke as well as other logistical hurdles around Soldier Field like the Chicago Park District. I would be the most surprised if that race got approved, if they leave Chicagoland might as well leave the state I guess. This is a huge bummer and a shot in the gut to those of us like myself who supported the track initially as my parents bought the “season ticket pass” which you had to buy to get Cup tickets back in the day. That was wild watching my dad shell out $1200 for Trucks, ARCA, Busch and Indy Car races just to get Cup. We lived 25 min away, so no lodging. I took over the tickets in recent years and no complaints, I’ve probably only missed about 5 races in the almost 20 years they’ve been racing there. I’ll still support NASCAR by trying to go to 1-2 races a year because I love it but it really makes me angry losing a home track and a pretty nice facility like Chicagoland. Sucks loving and giving support to something only to have it ripped away, but I guess that’s big league sports right?
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That's always my though about Kansas Speedway. It gets a lot of hate, but I support it because it's the only track I can make a weekend trip out of. Any other track would cause me to need an additional day off to attend. Having tracks that offer great racing should be important, but also offering tracks that at least most people could attend without needing lodging should be equally important.
 
Mispeedway15 said:
One of the big drivers in these changes is our partnership with Camping World. Because of that tracks like Michigan and Road America are more desirable because they’re premier camping destinations.

It’s something many need to consider with NASCAR, Camping is such a huge part of the race weekend for many unlike other sports.
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I don't see Michigan losing a race anytime soon anyway since it is where the manufacturers are from.
 
hmmm298 said:
I don't see Michigan losing a race anytime soon anyway since it is where the manufacturers are from.
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I heard from my Road America source that Michigan was a track being considered to lose a date. That's all I heard and would make sense if they instead did a doubleheader there for a weekend. But now with Kentucky likeky going away I don't see Michigan losing their dates anytime soon
 
I don't understand why Kentucky is losing a race from a business standpoint. It has good attendance, new fresh pavement / banking, and good finishes. Whether you actually like the track or not, it just doesn't make sense to me.

Sure seems like the only reason they keep Kansas twice is because of that casino. I would be OK with Michigan losing a race but keeping Chevy & Ford happy seems pretty vital.
 
AuzGrams said:
I don't understand why Kentucky is losing a race from a business standpoint. It has good attendance, new fresh pavement / banking, and good finishes. Whether you actually like the track or not, it just doesn't make sense to me.
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Because the folks screamed for “more Road Courses!” I’ll be eager to see when they turn on them inevitably in the next decade when we have an over abundance of those as well as street courses. I think if that does indeed happen, it will prove NASCAR fans have zero idea what they want, the only constant is the complaining.
 
Snappy D said:
Because the folks screamed for “more Road Courses!” I’ll be eager to see when they turn on them inevitably in the next decade when we have an over abundance of those as well as street courses. I think if that does indeed happen, it will prove NASCAR fans have zero idea what they want, the only constant is the complaining.
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Adding COTA & Road America is more than enough for me.
 
AuzGrams said:
Adding COTA & Road America is more than enough for me.
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Same. I would have been over the moon with those additions, but the rumored 5-6 being added is over doing it IMO. If I wanted to watch road racing there’s Indy Car, IMSA and of course F1 which all are great in their own right.
 
Snappy D said:
Same. I would have been over the moon with those additions, but the rumored 5-6 being added is over doing it IMO. If I wanted to watch road racing there’s Indy Car, IMSA and of course F1 which all are great in their own right.
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Hopefully it's Chicago, Kentucky or Kansas (god forbid it loses a race instead of losing Kentucky), Charlotte All Star/Texas swapout, Dover losing a race in favor of Road America, Gateway, Circuit of the Americas, Nashville Superspeedway.

Personally I think the Nashville Street Course & Bristol Dirt ideas/rumors are lame.
 
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AuzGrams said:
Hopefully it's Chicago, Kentucky or Kansas (god forbid it loses a race instead of losing Kentucky), Charlotte All Star/Texas swapout, Dover losing a race in favor of Road America, Gateway, Circuit of the Americas, Nashville Superspeedway.

Personally I think the Nashville Street Course & Bristol Dirt ideas/rumors are lame.
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1) Dover already gave a race to Nashville for next year. 2) Nashville Street circuit is an Indycar race.
 
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