Interest builds around possible changes to NASCAR schedule

Wait a minute I am getting the shaft here. In 2019 I predicted NASCAR would double the number of road races. They have, they went from 3 to 6. Then in 2020 my bold prediction came across as beach, but I really meant dirt. It was an autocorrect by racing-forum, which was beyond my control. :)

pjmolo said:
From the BOLD PREDICTION thread:




close, but no cigar . . . . .
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pjmolo said:
Unless there is some clarification by @DIDIT, I've got to agree with @Team Penske on this one.

Which means that there are currently 3 road races on the Cup schedule and for the prediction to be true they'll have to announce the addition of at least 3 more.
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Formerjackman said:
IMS has likely sold me my last NASCAR ticket there. Just as when they stole the Xfinity race from IRP, I WILL NOT reward this act of stupidity by giving them any of MY hard earned money.
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Feel ya man, Iam bummed the Oval/Rectangle is gone. So much tradition and history on that layout, I for one enjoyed the racing there. I have no desire to see the road course but that's me and at the end of the day its not what I want. I kind of hope when things change again the date is given to an actual road course like Montreal, I'd love to see Cup racing there. The Brickyard 400 is dead, bummer. I have no desire to go to a Cup race there, however I still need to make that Indy 500 or hopefully an F1 race if they get that back. Its easy to dance on the grave of this race not being from the midwest like we are but I know if I was a race car driver in NASCAR, the Brickyard 400 would be my most important race... I just grew up with the understanding how important that place is. Oh well, still gotta make a race there though. Driven by many times never got to see inside.
 
I'm sure many wouldn't understand, but for me it's almost like a family member has died. No Cup race there on the road course will ever have the same prestige as a race on that oval, just as the F1 races there didn't. Is NOTHING sacred any more?
 
Formerjackman said:
I'm sure many wouldn't understand, but for me it's almost like a family member has died. No Cup race there on the road course will ever have the same prestige as a race on that oval, just as the F1 races there didn't. Is NOTHING sacred any more?
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Yah I agree with you totally 100%. But that Road America race is going to be SWEET. I think I might check that one out for sure.
 
Snappy D said:
Yah I agree with you totally 100%. But that Road America race is going to be SWEET. I think I might check that one out for sure.
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I was already on their website cause I bet that place is going to be packed
 
It's too bad moving over to IRP and putting some money/temp bleachers (40-50K capacity)/renovation like what Nashville is doing, into the facility again is viewed as a "step down".

Especially when we want more short tracks.

Yeah the IMS move is the one I don't really care for.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
The key point of my argument is that there aren't any short tracks who can afford to pay for those upgrades.

As to NASCAR really wanting more short tracks, they're about to convert Cali to one, remember?
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But it seems as though the short tracks would be able to front the money if they were guaranteed of getting a Cup race. And yes I saw that Fontana would be converted to a short track. They will have that ready in 2022 right?
 
kkfan91 said:
I was already on their website cause I bet that place is going to be packed
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I've never done the weekend camping at a track before, Im heavily interested in trying it out at Road America. I'm so happy they got a race, hopefully in the future they will get a playoff race.
 
Snappy D said:
I've never done the weekend camping at a track before, Im heavily interested in trying it out at Road America. I'm so happy they got a race, hopefully in the future they will get a playoff race.
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I'm minutes away from getting the VIP camping and seating package for the week. Everything I've heard is that RA has a top-notch camping experience
 
I'm honestly shocked no Gateway announcement. They got rid of a midwest race from Chicago and Kentucky isn't that far away either really.
 
I suppose this may be why Atlanta is getting it's 2nd date back?


(was kind of surprised by that one based on how attendance has looked there, love the track though).

Couple things:
Disaster or not, I'm watching that Bristol race (it has my curiosity).
What will happen to the racing surface after dirt?

Darlington getting their 2nd date back and Road America addition are the 2 best changes imo.
decent size hopes for COTA, 3 trips to Texas tho?
taking the Brickyard off the big track is a mistake, too much tradition, too much history.
Phoenix needs to be rotated out as finale post 21'
 
Turtle84 said:
I suppose this may be why Atlanta is getting it's 2nd date back?


(was kind of surprised by that one based on how attendance has looked there, love the track though).

Couple things:
Disaster or not, I'm watching that Bristol race (it has my curiosity).
What will happen to the racing surface after dirt?

Darlington getting their 2nd date back and Road America addition are the 2 best changes imo.
decent size hopes for COTA, 3 trips to Texas tho?
taking the Brickyard off the big track is a mistake, too much tradition, too much history.
Phoenix needs to be rotated out as finale post 21'
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Of course there's a ****** casino involved. JFC.
 
Not the biggest fan of Atlanta getting two races, but it is returning to the southern roots I guess. Would have maybe preferred Chicago getting dropped & Kentucky staying from a fan standpoint.
 
The Brickyard has been struggling in ticket sales for a while.

The road course is to create more interest and with IndyCar being there as well, as mediocre as the IndyCar races have been on the RC, will put more butts in seats. The tradition is great, but we have to remember who runs the ship at IMS now and the money spent upgrading the place.
 
My thoughts on the new schedule:
-I'm excited for COTA and Road America. Every racing series that has visited these two tracks has put on good races.
-Darlington and Atlanta are iconic venues and I'm glad they got their second date back even though I didn't see a second Atlanta race coming. Time will tell if it's a good idea to run at Atlanta in July.
-I'm skeptical about the dirt race at Bristol. Bristol is IMO the best track in NASCAR and I don't think changing anything about the Bristol spring race was necessary. In general I like the idea of a cup race on dirt but I'd rather have it at an original dirt track.
-I don't think IMS will be on the schedule much longer. This is now the fourth different date for the Brickyard in five years. Switching the race to the road course seems like a final attempt to save this race. The Indy 500 will now be the only race on the IMS oval, as it was until 1993. I hope the Indianapolis race switches to IRP in the future.
-I don't really care about Nashville Superspeedway. Hopefully this race will be moved to the Fairgrounds Speedway in a couple years.
-We're down to 9 races at 1.5ers (from 11) which is good.
-Fans have been calling for more short tracks but we'll lose a short track race and another race at a one-miler.
-There were a lot of changes to the playoffs for this year so I agree with not making a lot of changes again.

I still hope the playoffs will be gone at some point and maybe just maybe we can get a different package for the larger tracks next year.
 
Blaze said:
I really wanna go to that second Atlanta race, as it's two days before my birthday, but it's also hot as BALLS during July....
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No word on whether it's a night race or not? Last time they had one was 2014 I think.
 
Kiante said:
The Brickyard has been struggling in ticket sales for a while.

The road course is to create more interest and with IndyCar being there as well, as mediocre as the IndyCar races have been on the RC, will put more butts in seats. The tradition is great, but we have to remember who runs the ship at IMS now and the money spent upgrading the place.
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I don't believe the difference in attendance will amount to much of anything at all. If anything, I wouldn't be shocked if it's less.
 
Formerjackman said:
I'm sure many wouldn't understand, but for me it's almost like a family member has died. No Cup race there on the road course will ever have the same prestige as a race on that oval, just as the F1 races there didn't. Is NOTHING sacred any more?
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I'm sorry for your loss.

I appreciated the traditional Brickyard 400 for the demanding test of driver, equipment, and execution that it was. Since that wasn't enough for the chattering class nor the masses, there was a constant demand to turn it into a dumbassed drafting fest with "closer racing".

Since they couldn't leave well enough alone, I'm fine with the switch to a road course format with the superior aero and engine package. You may be correct that this won't do any favors for the event's popularity, but it makes it a more appealing race to me than the direction they were heading in.
 


Oh, OK Steve-O, if you say so. We'll take what we can get for now, and know that the number of low HP / high DF races is decreasing rather than increasing:

36 in 2019
22 in 2020 (as originally scheduled)
17 in 2021
 
gnomesayin said:


Oh, OK Steve-O, if you say so. We'll take what we can get for now, and know that the number of low HP / high DF races is decreasing rather than increasing:

36 in 2019
22 in 2020 (as originally scheduled)
17 in 2021
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When Steve says “we like what we are seeing” it has nothing to do with on-track competition or what fans ask of the sport.

“We like what we are seeing” = “We like still having network contracts”
 
RacerrecaR said:
The first few races after the reconfiguration were the best Bristol races ever IMO. This track went downhill once they decreased the track width after fans were complaining about 3-wide racing
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Different strokes I guess. I saw the night race live in 2008, I thought it was the worst race I'd ever watched.
 
Wow. Can’t believe Michigan lost a race as well. Quite clear they’re trying to move more back to the South
 
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