Joey Logano

The two I saw were Kyle Busch and I believe C bell

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I don’t see how anyone could disapprove of what JLo did at Martinsville especially given all that was at stake. Situations like this are nascar hallmarks.

Truex used to be a nice appreciative kid but once he got his 15 minutes he thinks he puts his pants on differently
 
wi_racefan said:
I'm not a Joey fan, but I don't understand all the hate towards him. He got pushed around like crazy, then he stands up for himself and bring on the hate. I haven't seen anything that hes done that I'd consider a dirty move.
If people dont like that he came from money, well at least hes successful. Paul Menard comes from money and hasn't done a damn thing, yet not much hate there.
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I don't see it as "hate" --- more like spur of the moment "boo, on you". Let's not paint everyone as a "hater" just because they don't like
what Joey did.
 
wi_racefan said:
The two I saw were Kyle Busch and I believe C bell

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Larson chimed in on Bell's Twitter post about it to mock stock car racing as well. Not even sure why he stays if he hates it the way he puts off, go drive your dirt mobiles.
 
Revman said:
Is Joey hated? Since when? I mean, to my knowledge, he has never done anything wrong. Ever. Am I right? If Denny is hated for what he did to Mr. History, and the consensus is that that was dirty, and Joey is hated for what he did to Martin, and the consensus is that that is hard racing, maybe we need to consider the source when defining a driver as "hated." Maybe some of NASCAR Nation just likes to hate for hate's sake. FWIW, I hate what happened to MY Toyota driver, but in no way shape or form was it dirty.
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IMO you will drive yourself batty trying to figure out all the rules concerning why some drivers are vilified and others are sanctified for similar incidents.
 
JMO but I don’t see hatred toward drivers as much as I do fans being partisan. I wouldn’t be mad at any driver for doing what JLo did because it is doing your job.

If Kyle Busch had bumped Chase Elliott out of the way heads would still be exploding. If Chase Elliott knocked Kyle Busch out of the way he would be nominated for sainthood. Partisanship always obscures the truth.
 
wi_racefan said:
Sure was a lot of cheers after matt wrecked him and drivers calling him out about driver code. In this case couple drivers calling him out again on Twitter

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Ya and most of those are/were drivers just there for the money. Junior stood up for his buddy Matt. Then again Junior hasn't raced for a win in years. I really enjoyed watching Matt back in a Roush car this year, it's where he belongs. :sarcasm:
 
sdj said:
After watching the replay several times from different angles, I will say I was wrong on getting all over Joey for moving Martin. Just a racin thing that anyone in that position would have done.
Funny thing was that they almost let Hambone win the race.
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The bone did squeak by for second, oh that would have been a fine mess, all week long listening to Hamlin saying he has done that 10,000 times.:D
 
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SlicedBread22 said:
Junior said it best... If it's your driver that does it it's not dirty if it's your driver it happened to it is... However most people tend to be on Joey's side of this one. Which is a great change of pace for me I'm used to defending him now I'm just agreeing with most people lol
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I think Jr nailed it but I wish it wasn’t so
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Junior said it best... If it's your driver that does it it's not dirty if it's your driver it happened to it is... However most people tend to be on Joey's side of this one. Which is a great change of pace for me I'm used to defending him now I'm just agreeing with most people lol
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I would like to think that many who aren't particularly Joey fans although they didn't like it, knew enough about short track racing to be able to tell a bump from a dump job. Truex didn't have to light up his tires either and hook left for his part. It wasn't a drag race like Allen likes to scream at every opportunity. He touched, he touched would have been more appropriate.
 
FLRacingFan said:
Joey races harder than most and that bothers people, not unlike the early Keselowski years.
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Joey is so old school, he reminds me a lot of Harvick when he was younger. Super aggressive all-round and just hard-nosed as a driver. I think after those JGR years and that '13 season bs with Hamlin has really toughened him up.

Let a fan favorite pull that move and people would have went bat **** insane over the win.
 
As a fan of his I love the aggressiveness.. but also that he's not so pig headed as to not expect the same in return and he's okay with that. He's said several times he expects to be raced the way he races. At this point everyone knows he's not going to be conservative when the checkered flag is on the line. I know I wouldn't want him lined up around me on a late restart because he's not going to make it easy.. and he shouldn't. Id put him against anyone in that situation.

..and anyone who is counting him out for this championship might have another thing coming. He's got as good a shot as anyone.
 
I think restarts will be a whole new game again next with them taking the driver adjustable track bar away

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wi_racefan said:
I think restarts will be a whole new game again next with them taking the driver adjustable track bar away

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yeah me too, not being able to adjust the car in the race is going to lead to more passing too I believe if they don't get the car right in the pits. They will be harder to drive for sure during a long run
 
StandOnIt said:
yeah me too, not being able to adjust the car in the race is going to lead to more passing too I believe if they don't get the car right in the pits. They will be harder to drive for sure during a long run
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I think you'll see more people come and go throughout the run

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StandOnIt said:
as far as restarts go, Joey and Kyle Busch are two of the best at scarfing spots. Penske's brilliant move with pit crew changes at Martinsville put Logano in the winners circle. He wouldn't have had the opportunity to do what he did to win IMO.
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Absolu Absolutely.. in typing that last post I almost said anyone but maybe the 18.. and yeah the pit crew changes definitely seem to have helped.
 
StandOnIt said:
I think Penske has something to do with that. You know the personalities over on the Indy side, do you see that same kind of thing over there?
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I think they all know, across NASCAR/IMSA/IndyCar/Supercars, that they're racing for Penske for a reason and that Roger has the utmost faith in them all the time. I don't think there's a single driver across any of those that couldn't be characterized as aggressive except for maybe Pagenaud, and he won a title just by beating the tar out of everyone. It's a lot easier to race that way when you know your team owner has your back at all times. How many times did Will Power tear up a car and come agonizingly close to winning a title before he finally did? And then after all of that he became maybe the best superspeedway racer in the series. All of the drivers seem to get along extremely well too, which isn't so common throughout motorsports. There's definitely an environment/atmosphere that brings the best out of people there.
 
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such a geek!
 
I’ve never been a sliced fan but I still can’t get over that epic burnout.

I wonder if NASCAR is going to caution the boys about getting too crazy.
 
harkin said:
I’ve never been a sliced fan but I still can’t get over that epic burnout.

I wonder if NASCAR is going to caution the boys about getting too crazy.
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eh, some it seems their intent is to blow the back tires off, in Logano's case IMO it is more of an art form or a contest of skill. And he parked it dead center on the finish line

 
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StandOnIt said:
Logano won at Vegas and at Phoenix and he didn't have the fastest car at either place. But I didn't hear him say with either win.."we didn't have the fastest car today" :cool:
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That's just good solid race execution. Reminds me of the 48. Seems like when Joey does have the car to beat, he will run away with it. He may win 8 races this year.

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