Joey Logano

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by SlicedBread22, Nov 28, 2013.

  1. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    I've been keeping up loosely with the Pinty's series that just has regular points. The leader is pretty far ahead and is in survival mode. The rest of em are racing like hell to gain or keep their positions. Refreshing. No yelling or screaming or POINTS MATTER. The leader's team and driver earned that privilege.
     
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  2. FenderBumper

    FenderBumper The "good old days" ??

    True, but I still believe what Matt said after being penalized. Brian had done an interview after Kansas where he said that Logano had used "great strategy" by taking out a contender. That gave Matt cover to ignore the fact that he was blocking like cazy and wreck Logano out of the playoffs and help his teammate.
     
  3. FenderBumper

    FenderBumper The "good old days" ??

    Logano was a nice guy at JGR and he lost his ride. Hammy and Kyle were constantly on the radio telling their CC what they wanted Joey to do to help THEM win, rather than letting the kid run his own race and keep his ride.
     
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  4. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    and you believe Kenseth needed an excuse? from Brian?
     
  5. FenderBumper

    FenderBumper The "good old days" ??

    I doubt Matt would have been that brazen without the supreme A-hole saying dumb sheet on TV. He would have waited for an on track excuse, like Logano chopping his nose. Matt just nailed the gas and held it as he drove the 22 into the wall, confirming what outsiders say about nascar just being a demolition derby dressed up as racing. I've seen Matt dish out payback before, but never like that.
     
  6. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    I believe he said his throttle stuck. Sticky sticky
     
  7. wi_racefan

    wi_racefan Tire changer

    I thought he had a tire going down? lol
     
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  8. FenderBumper

    FenderBumper The "good old days" ??

    How soon they forget….
    Unapologetic Matt Kenseth defends wrecking Joey Logano at Martinsville, calls out NASCAR CEO Brian France

    Matt Kenseth doesn’t regret crashing Joey Logano and believes NASCAR could have done a better job of quelling the animosity between the two drivers.

    Never denying he spun Kenseth, Logano contends he was left with little choice because Kenseth repeatedly blocked him -- including one instance where he pushed Logano into the outside wall.

    How Kansas unfolded drew admiration from France, who called Logano's maneuver "quintessential NASCAR" in an interview the following day on SiriusXM Radio. That remark further irked Kenseth, who felt the sport's top executive was promoting that kind of driving.

    "I felt like I was almost encouraged. I felt like the comments almost condoned it, the way Brian France said Joey was smart in the way he strategically eliminated a threat for the title," Kenseth said. "I just never dreamed, ever, that I'd get suspended for going back and evening the score."

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    What I don't believe or like, is when Kenseth says if Logano had apologized for Kansas, he wouldn't have wrecked him at M'ville. Kenseth knows he got what he deserved. Matt knows most veterans would have done exactly what Logano did. I think Matt thought Joey should be his doormat.
     
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  9. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    That is way way after it happened and he was trying to get his ass out of hot water.

    "couldn't get it to turn" @ 9:30 ish in the clip

     
  10. wi_racefan

    wi_racefan Tire changer

    I lost a lot of respect for Matt as a driver after that incident.
     
  11. Invisible Guest

    Invisible Guest Team Owner

    A lot of them really don't race the way Joey did that day. Guys like Larson and Elliott don't race that way. They've got a lot of 2nd place finishes, but apparently they don't want to be known as a driver that will wreck someone to get wins. Still not a Joey fan .. smug fella .
     
  12. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    winner winner chicken dinner
     
  13. dirtfan

    dirtfan Crew Chief

    Seeing a Tony Stewart fan say this is quite.... odd. Pot, kettle, and all that...
     
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  14. FenderBumper

    FenderBumper The "good old days" ??

    I don't think Larson or Elliott have Matt block them to the apron, then run them into the wall, and let Matt run them to the apron again. Matt gets turned by most competitive drivers in that situation because they refuse to lift a 3rd time.
     
  15. TexasRaceLady

    TexasRaceLady Admin/TimeOut Monitor Staff Member Contributor

    For the life of me, why on earth is a 3 year old incident being hashed and re-hashed?
    Are y'all bored, or something. ROTFLMAO
     
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  16. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    real short memory

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  17. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    Hell, theres a thread arguing over an 18 year old event.
     
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  18. Ford 222

    Ford 222 Team Owner

    I disagree. Matt had no reason to be pissed at Joey and Joey had no reason to apologize or kiss his butt or even be nice after Matt whined and claimed he was wasn’t raced fair. Joey got blocked and when he didn’t lift Matt got what he asked for. Shoulda been over then. Matt threw a KB type tantrum at Martinsville and cost JL a shot at the title.
     
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  19. TexasRaceLady

    TexasRaceLady Admin/TimeOut Monitor Staff Member Contributor

    I know ---- these make me laugh. :D
     
  20. FenderBumper

    FenderBumper The "good old days" ??

    Harvick did a number on us. :mad:
     
  21. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Hell, he got ol Kyle damn, drunk, crawling, attempting to walk, and his ol lady is pissed at him. :D
     
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  22. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    I'm not saying Matt was right OR wrong. I'm just saying that he was pissed at Joey, and Joey does NOT have a very good history of putting these fires out before something bad happens. It boils down to do you want to argue about who's right, or do you want to not have to worry about a guy taking you out on purpose at a critical moment? It's liking arguing with your wife. Being right doesn't count for very much. If she's not happy, she will FIND a way to make you sorry.
     
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  23. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    I think Matt was more shocked and surprised than anything with Carl. I think he was caught so off guard, he didn't even have time to be mad in the moment it happened. There is ALSO the fact they were teammates, which kind of limits what you can reasonably do. If Carl was as mad as he appeared, he probably WOULD have hit a non-teammate.
     
  24. Ford 222

    Ford 222 Team Owner

    I still argue the ‘90 title was a farse....
    Lol...yes I don’t seem to learn that lesson very well....or when I do it’s usually too late.
    I see your point but JL had been the butt kissing guy before at JGR and it got him nothing but disrespect. I believe he went the other end of the spectrum during that time with his issues with Denny, Tony, then Matt taking his respect. Definitely could have handled it better thinking short term but I don’t think that was where his mind was.
    Matt’s a racer, not a fighter. It was way out of character when he jumped Brad (another racer, not a fighter) in the haulers. Plus knowing Brad was kind of a wuss to violence, he probably was empowered to jump him. Like KB thought with Joey but Joey’s duck of his sucker punch was pretty skilled. Lol
     
  25. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    Yes, the penalty the 6 team got was kind of a chicken sh!t penalty, but by the letter of the rule it was an infraction. Also remember that at the point is the season the penalty was issued, nobody had ANY way of knowing that the championship would come down to it. Who could have predicted in March that Earnhardt would beat Martin by a smaller margin than the penalty? I think with a lot of people that bring this up (not saying you, I don't know what you think) the insinuation is that NASCAR stuck it to Roush just to benefit RCR, but again, how could anybody in March know that that penalty would even come into play? As long as we're talking about a chicken sh!t penalty, how about the time Gordon got penalized for using an intake manifold that was 100% legal down to the OEM part number, but was made (by GM) out of magnesium instead of aluminum, saving a pound or two of weight? The manifold didn't make one more horsepower than the aluminum one, but by the letter of the rule it was illegal. In BOTH cases, NASCAR should have just gave the teams a small fine and told them not to do it again, they would be watching.
     
  26. Ford 222

    Ford 222 Team Owner

    Oh yeah I realize it was way too early for NASCAR to guess that 46 points would be enough to cost Roush. But the 3 NEVER got in trouble. Didn’t they pit the 3 off of pit road that year when he took off before all tires were tight and lost one side outside pit out? Wasn’t even penalized a lap which would have been devastating in Oct when the title points were still tight.
     
  27. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    I remember the incident, but I honestly don't remember how it played out. I looked up the results and Earnhardt finished 25th, 14 laps down, so draw your own conclusions. Mark finished 14th, three laps down.
     
  28. Yeah.... Fall Charlotte race. They had the lugs off all 4 tires. When the jack dropped on the right side, Earnhardt nailed the gas. The left sides fell off before turn 1. They let Chocolate Myers and another crewman take a jack, 4 way lug wrench and tires down there. Car should have been loaded on a rollback. Worst decision I think was in the final race at Atlanta, Jack rented a car from Robert Yates. He should have just run what he had been.
     
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