Kurt Busch to Furniture Row racing.

Smoke14 said:
What a way to start a new ride, suspended.....
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This is probably what should happen since he's already on probation but it's not likely going to happen IMO. The probably need to find a way for Kurt to pay for his antics but not penalize Furniture Row for something that they had no part in.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
This is probably what should happen since he's already on probation but it's not likely going to happen IMO. The probably need to find a way for Kurt to pay for his antics but not penalize Furniture Row for something that they had no part in.
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If I were them, I'd be on the phone to Allmendinger just in case. FRR wanted Busch and they got him and all that comes with him. If Nascar is to be fair, the fact that Busch is moving to a new team shouldn't matter. Live and learn, I guess.
 
#17D500winner said:
If I were them, I'd be on the phone to Allmendinger just in case. FRR wanted Busch and they got him and all that comes with him. If Nascar is to be fair, the fact that Busch is moving to a new team shouldn't matter. Live and learn, I guess.
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This is how I see it. Stop making 'so talented' excuses for these clowns and give Kurt a 2 race suspension. I've defended Kurt in the past, but enough is enough. Kurt has been on probation and suspended for 1 race this year. Slam him with 2 or 3 race suspension. Treat him like the child he is and spank him good to help him learn that the whole world doesn't revolve around what he wants at that moment.

There was ZERO embarassment or apology coming from Kurt on Sunday, just more excuses. FRR will survive. Regan comes back, AJ or even David Ragan are options.
 
I don't believe I'm saying this but this isn't the first time a driver has climbed back into his race car after a crash and driven off. Any emergency worker who thinks they can stop a race car with their hands is crazy.
Jr gave JJ a ride after the race was over, not during a yellow flag. I've seen owners and CC get rides to VL without penalty.
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SST55 said:
I don't believe I'm saying this but this isn't the first time a driver has climbed back into his race car after a crash and driven off. Any emergency worker who thinks they can stop a race car with their hands is crazy.
Jr gave JJ a ride after the race was over, not during a yellow flag. I've seen owners and CC get rides to VL without penalty.
I now return you to the normal SST55.
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On xm radio , Dave Moody was saying that the reason Nascar was upset was not about the safety workers etc., but because Kurt was ignoring their calls to stop driving to the pit area and dropping bits of his wrecked race car on track. When they later realized that Kurt had taken his helmet off , they understood that Kurt couldn't hear them .Dave didn't think there will be any penalty.
 
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Kurt Busch won't face further penalties for ignoring official requests to stop his car after a Lap 98 wreck at Talladega Superspeedway, NASCAR officials said Tuesday. NASCAR parked Busch for the remainder of Sunday's Sprint Cup race because he drove away from the wreck with emergency workers still in the process of providing him and the #51 Phoenix Racing Chevy assistance, and because there was emergency medical equipment on the track. Busch said he never heard NASCAR's repeated requests to stop because he'd taken off his helmet that contains radio communication equipment. "I got out of the car and surveyed the damage, saw that it could still roll so I jumped back in," Busch told reporters at Talladega. "That is the competitor in me, which is the desire that I have and that is what gets misconstrued all the time." Busch was leading at the time of the wreck that was caused when his car ran out of gas. The 2004 Cup champion finished 39th in his final race for Phoenix Racing before moving over to the #78 at Furniture Row Racing to get a head start on the 2013 season. "This is the way my life works," Busch said. "I am leading, I wreck, I run out of gas. I'm still that competitive guy that tried to get back in the race and now NASCAR is yelling at me because I don't have my helmet on and I'm trying to get it to the garage so the guys can work on it. Now I'm in trouble, now I have this little storm right here. This is my life. I'm not complaining. I put myself in a lot of these situations, but it's on to good things now moving forward. I got all the bad luck out of the way. This year has been a great year to test me in every way." Busch is on probation through the end of the year for verbally abusing a reporter in June. He also was suspended from the Sprint Cup race at Pocono.
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From Jayski
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
This is probably what should happen since he's already on probation but it's not likely going to happen IMO. They probably need to find a way for Kurt to pay for his antics but not penalize Furniture Row for something that they had no part in.
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I agree. But somebody needs to pin Kurt's ears back. ;)
 
I'm disappointed that something wasn't done. I think they should have made him clean the restrooms after the Charlotte race or maybe clean up the stands or something. :rolleyes:
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
I'm disappointed that something wasn't done. I think they should have made him clean the restrooms after the Charlotte race or maybe clean up the stands or something. :rolleyes:
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It wont take long before he blows another head gasket. :)
 
Seems to me I saw Earnhardt Senior do pretty much the same thing and everybody cheered. Different time.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
I'm disappointed that something wasn't done. I think they should have made him clean the restrooms after the Charlotte race or maybe clean up the stands or something. :rolleyes:
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That might not be a bad idea. They could have him clean and paint the restroom stalls that probably has his, and his brothers name scribbled all over them.
 
ted@economy said:
Seems to me I saw Earnhardt Senior do pretty much the same thing and everybody cheered. Different time.
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Dale was an ahole in competitive situations, Kurt can be one at any given time, and Dale didn't try to hit cars in the pit lane like Kurt tried with Tony when he drove for Penske. Dale always kept the bigger picture in mind, if not he would have never won titles. Kurt is just a punk or unreasonable recreational idiot
 
Greg said:
Dale was an ahole in competitive situations, Kurt can be one at any given time, and Dale didn't try to hit cars in the pit lane like Kurt tried with Tony when he drove for Penske. Dale always kept the bigger picture in mind, if not he would have never won titles. Kurt is just a punk or unreasonable recreational idiot
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I agree with everything you said , but I did see him do the same thing that Kurt did. Just sayin.
 
ted@economy said:
I agree with everything you said , but I did see him do the same thing that Kurt did. Just sayin.
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I will check but based on my memory Dale asked them if the car could be cranked up. It happened slower and there was more deliberation, it was not like he sneaked away from the Medical responders. And he went to his car without opposition medical personal that was present at the time.

In any case any similarity now is apples to oranges. An incident about 15 years ago, probably had less prescribed protocols if any on how to enforce procedures. I will admit Dale could pull power moves to do some stubborn things, but I think that was a part of the era, Bobby Allison among others could be stubborn too. Drivers had more freedom to work off of their impulses, to be more self styled etc, Lee Roy Yarbrough punched big Bill France in the face once at Talladega too but that doesn't permit a current driver to Punch Brian or Helton in todays world . The point is that Nascar has refined itself and it is less crude now. Drivers now get cushy living perks at the track but they are expected to stick with the regimen, if Dale was in this era he would have to abide by a stiffer policy too.
 
ted@economy said:
I agree with everything you said , but I did see him do the same thing that Kurt did. Just sayin.
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Did you? Post the video link if you would. I've still got the 1997 Daytona race on VHS. I'm just too lazy to try to find the damn VCR to watch that segment of the race again. There's plenty of video out there of the wreck and what followed on YouTube and I did look that up. I could be wrong but I don't recall seeing video of him getting back into the car and driving off. I don't think that moment was caught on camera. He did get back in the car and drive it to the pits but did he really do it without his helmet on along with one of the safety worked leaning into or reaching in the car and medical equipment sitting on the back deck? Somehow I don't think so but I guess we'll all remember it how we want to. It's just that I hate to see history rewritten.

Here's some video from that day.





 
Well , he did have his helmet off when he go out of the car , there were safety workers there , in these times there would have been a mandatory ride back to the medical center .I agree , different times.
 
ted@economy said:
Well , he did have his helmet off when he go out of the car , there were safety workers there , in these times there would have been a mandatory ride back to the medical center .I agree , different times.
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It's a stretch to compare those two incidents IMO so I'll definitely agree to disagree on this.
 
ted@economy said:
Well , he did have his helmet off when he go out of the car , there were safety workers there , in these times there would have been a mandatory ride back to the medical center .I agree , different times.
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Taking his helmet off didn't put him or anyone else in danger :confused:
 
#17D500winner said:
Taking his helmet off didn't put him or anyone else in danger :confused:
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I know that, but the video didn't show when he put it back on again. In any event , they but had wrecked race cars that they drove back to the pits and they both declined the mandatory ride to the medical center . Both were likely dropping bits and pieces on track on the way back to the pits. Like Greg pointed out , those were different times.
 
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