Las Vegas Grand Prix (2023)

Crofty is on point. If you're going to penalize that, you have Verstappen surrender the spot back. The five seconds is not significant enough.

Nobody could ever accuse F1 officials of being competent at playing up "the show" though. They had every chance to save the battle for the win and make it interesting, and refused.
 
I do appreciate the announcers calling out the Verstappen penalty, you don’t often see that on NASCAR coverage.

NASCAR's TV partners view themselves as so invested that the talent is coached to essentially operate as PR reps. The British approach to this stuff is a lot different. They sell the pageantry of it all, but keep arm's length from the sanctioning body.
 
The 5-second penalty is the only penalty allowed in the regulations I guess. I think I may have seen something other than that once in the last few seasons. Gutless.
Penalty might still hurt.

Verstappen only pulled out to that lead because of restart shenanigans.
 
The 5-second penalty is the only penalty allowed in the regulations I guess. I think I may have seen something other than that once in the last few seasons. Gutless.

I know it’s sacrilege for F1 to adopt anything from NASCAR but this would be solved by making Verstappen do a pass through penalty.
 
I overslept and I am rinning -23 minutes on the DVR.
 
NASCAR's TV partners view themselves as so invested that the talent is coached to essentially operate as PR reps. The British approach to this stuff is a lot different. They sell the pageantry of it all, but keep arm's length from the sanctioning body.
NASCAR’s TV partners have talent who have financial interests on the track.
 
Say what you will about the race but this coverage is better than what we get from FOX and NBC. We’re getting shots of battles throughout the field. If this were produced by NASCAR folks, we’d have a close shot of Verstappen right now.
Which is precisely why NASCAR needs to take their TV production in house for 2025
 
It's nice to see Max being so outspoken.
1 I was joking get your panties out of a knot. 2 ovals are just as if not more technical than a road course. Multiple lines, actual traffic, constant g forces. I watch plenty beyond NASCAR I've tried multiple times to like F1 there is nothing entertaining about an engineering competition to me.
During the peak of my NASCAR fandom I always defended the "they're just driving in circles" notion. Then came the 550 package.
Earlier we were talking about the TV camera angles. This is more like what I was expecting from Vegas:

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If it wasn't for that shot I couldn't tell the race is in Vegas. Just looks like a generic street course.
 
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