NASCAR Announces 2018 National Series Driver Participation Guidelines

Blaze88 said:
When he does race guess what? I don't cheer for him against the drivers in the series. I rather a driver who's trying to make a name for himself win the race over Dale Jr. Kyle fans rather he win over a driver making a name for himself. Plus when's the last time Jr ran more than like 3 to 4 races?
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You, sir , are a magnificent human being.
 
aunty dive said:
I'm pretty sure he has every right to do so.

He pays the bills.
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DUN24 said:
No one is saying he doesn't. Just pointing out the fact that he is such a man-child that he came out of left field threatening to pull his precious, precious support from the truck series for really no reason.
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I guess he thinks he has a reason ... probably financial. I really don't know.

Whatever ... the fact remains that some excellent talent has run through his Late Model and Truck programs. I agree that it would be a shame if he shut it down for any reason, justified by random internet forum posters or otherwise.
 
It really is kind of a Catch-22 with the Xfinity Series...do you kick the Cup guys out and risk losing sponsorship and the education for the up-and-comers, or do you leave the Cup guys in and continue to field a terrible racing product? I think the new rules announced this morning provide a pretty good balance between the two, I don't think I'd wanna see them cut the Cup driver participation any more than that though.
 
ToyYoda said:
It really is kind of a Catch-22 with the Xfinity Series...do you kick the Cup guys out and risk losing sponsorship and the education for the up-and-comers, or do you leave the Cup guys in and continue to field a terrible racing product? I think the new rules announced this morning provide a pretty good balance between the two, I don't think I'd wanna see them cut the Cup driver participation any more than that though.
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It is a smart move, squeeze it down a little more and see what happens.
 
ToyYoda said:
It really is kind of a Catch-22 with the Xfinity Series...do you kick the Cup guys out and risk losing sponsorship and the education for the up-and-comers, or do you leave the Cup guys in and continue to field a terrible racing product? I think the new rules announced this morning provide a pretty good balance between the two, I don't think I'd wanna see them cut the Cup driver participation any more than that though.
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I'm fine with it stopping here, and I'll be glad that next year that NONE of them regardless of experience can race the playoff races as that will make the run to the championship really fun.
 
I don't, drivers who are much greater than Kyle and continue to be so long after they retire help society and the sport much more than what I think is a bad example.
 
aunty dive said:
I guess he thinks he has a reason ... probably financial. I really don't know.

Whatever ... the fact remains that some excellent talent has run through his Late Model and Truck programs. I agree that it would be a shame if he shut it down for any reason, justified or otherwise.
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The world would move on without the rowdy trucks, though I agree.
 
BobbyFord said:
I think they're trying to make more seating room in the grandstands.
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I've never understood this logic. Are you saying that more Cup guys running in the lower series will get more fans in the stands? Because these fans want to see the "best of the best" on the track, even if it may hurt the quality of the product?
 
2 Sweet said:
I've never understood this logic. Are you saying that more Cup guys running in the lower series will get more fans in the stands? Because these fans want to see the "best of the best" on the track, even if it may hurt the quality of the product?
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I never understand how it hurts the quality of the product myself and always see it as a plus when Cup drivers are in a lower series races.
 
2 Sweet said:
Yes, agree to disagree, we've been over this many times before and I've already beaten this topic to death too much as it is.

I'm just asking why some may think that less Cup drivers in an Xfinity race would hurt attendance?
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Well believe it or not Kyle Busch does have a lot of fans that show up for those races and him not participating could stop them from attending. I don't see how it would help attendance really. I think the Xfinity and Trucks should actually race on the same day at tracks with lights to help attendance for both series.
 
Clutch said:
KBM develops young talent. If he closes shop that will have a negative impact on Xfinity and Trucks.
Just be careful what you wish for.......you may get it.
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I fully expect the teams owned by cup drivers to close down. They won't be able to get sponsor dollars to cover the costs and it's not worth it to lose money on a team that you can't drive for.
 
Blaze88 said:
Brad rather develop the talent than be the talent. At least in the Trucks.
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Eric Jones ............ truck champion brought to you by Kyle Busch and KBM !!! KBM truck was championship quality thanks to Kyle participating in its development. Kyle should race hell out of his trucks !!!
 
2 Sweet said:
Yes, agree to disagree, we've been over this many times before and I've already beaten this topic to death too much as it is.

I'm just asking why some may think that less Cup drivers in an Xfinity race would hurt attendance?
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Will I buy Xfinity tickets if Kyle isn't racing ? nope :idunno:
 
kyle18fan said:
Eric Jones ............ truck champion brought to you by Kyle Busch and KBM !!! KBM truck was championship quality thanks to Kyle participating in its development. Kyle should race hell out of his trucks !!!
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Erik Jones is good enough that Kyle really didn't have to be there. Js. But I mean of course Kyle fans will all defend this as they would be sad if he couldn't pad his stats.
 
Blaze88 said:
Erik Jones is good enough that Kyle really didn't have to be there. Js. But I mean of course Kyle fans will all defend this as they would be sad if he couldn't pad his stats.
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But he was there to provide him with a competitive truck .... they won a championship together. There is nothing to defend ....... Kyle gave a young driver an opportunity and he has done it many times. The record book clearly states all of Kyles wins ... they are listed by series ... very easy and simple to understand.
I wonder how Eric got started in Nascar to begin with ?
 
Simple Fan said:
Well believe it or not Kyle Busch does have a lot of fans that show up for those races and him not participating could stop them from attending. I don't see how it would help attendance really. I think the Xfinity and Trucks should actually race on the same day at tracks with lights to help attendance for both series.
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kyle18fan said:
Will I buy Xfinity tickets if Kyle isn't racing ? nope :idunno:
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Fair enough. I'm on the other side of the coin. I have little interest in attending an Xfinity race with a ton of Cup drivers in it. If I want to watch Cup drivers, I'll go Sunday and watch the Cup race. On the other hand, I'll be MUCH more likely to buy tickets to an Xfinity race if I know it won't be dominated by Cup drivers.
 
kyle18fan said:
But he was there to provide him with a competitive truck .... they won a championship together. There is nothing to defend ....... Kyle gave a young driver an opportunity and he has done it many times. The record book clearly states all of Kyles wins ... they are listed by series ... very easy and simple to understand.
I wonder how Eric got started in Nascar to begin with ?
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At least spell his name right. It's Erik not Eric. But you see my point is, making a threat to pull his team if he's ever not allowed to race is dumb IMO. What will his team start to suck if he isn't allowed to race with them? I doubt that.

Guess it's good NASCAR won't ever ban the cup guys completely or so many people wouldn't be able to get a chance.
 
Blaze88 said:
At least spell his name right. It's Erik not Eric. But you see my point is, making a threat to pull his team if he's ever not allowed to race is dumb IMO. What will his team start to suck if he isn't allowed to race with them? I doubt that.

Guess it's good NASCAR won't ever ban the cup guys completely or so many people wouldn't be able to get a chance.
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I think it was great for Kyle to hire the kid and give him a great start in Nascar ............. I have a difficult time finding any bad in that :idunno: YMMV
I imagine that Kyle is greatly responsible for the success of his trucks .... his input has got to be very valuable. But of course, some folks will find bad in just about anything :idunno:
 
2 Sweet said:
I've never understood this logic. Are you saying that more Cup guys running in the lower series will get more fans in the stands? Because these fans want to see the "best of the best" on the track, even if it may hurt the quality of the product?
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I just know that the truck series already has the least amount people in the stands. It always has and I never understood why because the racing is usually better.
I just think NASCAR is still blindly throwing darts at a map.
 
kyle18fan said:
I think it was great for Kyle to hire the kid and give him a great start in Nascar ............. I have a difficult time finding any bad in that :idunno: YMMV
I imagine that Kyle is greatly responsible for the success of his trucks .... his input has got to be very valuable. But of course, some folks will find bad in just about anything :idunno:
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The top part is you picking a fight that isn't there lol. I like Erik Jones, I was glad he won the championship, I'm glad he's in Cup. So I don't see why you think that's bad? I never said it was bad.

What I said was bad would be him shutting down the team.
 
Blaze88 said:
The top part is you picking a fight that isn't there lol. I like Erik Jones, I was glad he won the championship, I'm glad he's in Cup. So I don't see why you think that's bad? I never said it was bad.

What I said was bad would be him shutting down the team.
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Nope ...... the top part is me stating my opinion. I seriously doubt that ego is the only reason Kyle would shut down KBM, after all .... if he was that ego driven, why would he bring a talented young driver in and showcase his talents ? wouldn't that damage a guys huge ego ? Yep ...... he could have left the young gun at the late model track :idunno:
 
Blaze88 said:
making a threat to pull his team if he's ever not allowed to race is dumb IMO. What will his team start to suck if he isn't allowed to race with them? I doubt that.
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If he's not allowed to race its likely he wouldnt have sponsorship for his team and would have to shut it down as a result anyway.
 
kyle18fan said:
Nope ...... the top part is me stating my opinion. I seriously doubt that ego is the only reason Kyle would shut down KBM, after all .... if he was that ego driven, why would he bring a talented young driver in and showcase his talents ? wouldn't that damage a guys huge ego ? Yep ...... he could have left the young gun at the late model track :idunno:
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That's why you added YMMV as if I was saying the exact opposite when in fact I'm saying I like that he has a team and think it would be bad for the sport if he shut down the team.
 
Simple Fan said:
If he's not allowed to race its likely he wouldnt have sponsorship for his team and would have to shut it down as a result anyway.
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I doubt that. If some of the other teams can get sponsors I'm sure a team that's a threat to win every week with or without Kyle could find some.
 
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