NASCAR Announces 2018 National Series Driver Participation Guidelines

Blaze88 said:
That's why you added YMMV as if I was saying the exact opposite when in fact I'm saying I like that he has a team and think it would be bad for the sport if he shut down the team.
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But you don't think he should be allowed to develop his trucks on the track using his vast experience ..... and satisfying some sponsors while he is at it.
 
Blaze88 said:
Are the only trucks with Sponsors on teams that sometime have Cup Drivers in them?
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You know the answer to that question and it means nothing. If Kyle needs to be in the seat to make some sponsors happy then so be it ....... not all sponsors are the same
 
kyle18fan said:
You know the answer to that question and it means nothing. If Kyle needs to be in the seat to make some sponsors happy then so be it ....... not all sponsors are the same
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Then if he gets banned, he can find some that won't care. That's my point here. I don't want the team being shut down as I like new blood being made.
 
Who the hell is NASCAR listening to? Really don't know, but I will call bull**** when they eventually run Cuppers out, and the attendance doesn't change....because it won't.
 
Blaze88 said:
"I can't believe sponsors want wins"

Seems to me you're saying they couldn't win without Kyle being around.
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You continue to read stuff in that I didn't say !!! weren't we just discussing a young man that won in a KBM truck ? :confused:
 
BobbyFord said:
I just know that the truck series already has the least amount people in the stands. It always has and I never understood why because the racing is usually better.
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Agreed. I would guess that the truck series dates/schedule does a lot to hurt the attendance, but I really don't know what the biggest factor is. But I'm glad NASCAR recognizes there is a problem, and they are doing what they believe is in the best interest to improve it going forward. I am 100% on board with the new limitations (especially the xfinity series) but I can see why some may not like it, fans and drivers both. I really don't blame Kyle Busch for being upset, but deep down I think he understands why these decisions were made.

The way I see it, Cup teams already dominate the Xfinity series as is, so adding Cup drivers into the mix makes the competition even worse IMO. The Iowa race was the best Xfinity series race I've seen in many years. The racing was fantastic, and when you have Xfinity drivers/teams getting more exposure and winnings, that has to be healthy for the series.

I had planned on going to three races next year: Cup fall race at Martinsville, Trucks at Eldora, and Xfin at Iowa. Now I'm leaning towards Martinsville in the spring and also adding a Cup/Xfinity doubleheader in the fall. With these new rules, NASCAR just got an extra Cup and an extra Xfinity race out of me next year. I'm just one person and I'm sure there are others like kylefan who might go to less Xfinity races now, so time will tell if it helps attendance or not. At the very least, I certainly think it will help the quality of the product.
 
Blaze88 said:
Yeah and that's with "Kyle there."
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Kyle was in the box a great deal of the time ........ like a good owner should be !!! Would you feel better if Kyle was sent out of the country to a deserted island when his trucks get raced ? what if he has the internet available on the island ? should he be put in jail on truck race day ? horse whipped maybe ?
 
kyle18fan said:
Kyle was in the box a great deal of the time ........ like a good owner should be !!! Would you feel better if Kyle was sent out of the country to a deserted island when his trucks get raced ? what if he has the internet available on the island ? should he be put in jail on truck race day ? horse whipped maybe ?
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As I said earlier I'm fine with the number of races staying at this new one they annouced today. Lol.
 
2 Sweet said:
Agreed. I would guess that the truck series dates/schedule does a lot to hurt the attendance, but I really don't know what the biggest factor is. But I'm glad NASCAR recognizes there is a problem, and they are doing what they believe is in the best interest to improve it going forward. I am 100% on board with the new limitations (especially the xfinity series) but I can see why some may not like it, fans and drivers both. I really don't blame Kyle Busch for being upset, but deep down I think he understands why these decisions were made.

The way I see it, Cup teams already dominate the Xfinity series as is, so adding Cup drivers into the mix makes the competition even worse IMO. The Iowa race was the best Xfinity series race I've seen in many years. The racing was fantastic, and when you have Xfinity drivers/teams getting more exposure and winnings, that has to be healthy for the series.

I had planned on going to three races next year: Cup fall race at Martinsville, Trucks at Eldora, and Xfin at Iowa. Now I'm leaning towards Martinsville in the spring and also adding a Cup/Xfinity doubleheader in the fall. With these new rules, NASCAR just got an extra Cup and an extra Xfinity race out of me next year. I'm just one person and I'm sure there are others like kylefan who might go to less Xfinity races now, so time will tell if it helps attendance or not. At the very least, I certainly think it will help the quality of the product.
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All of the changes are killing it for me. I'm going to two races next year to spend time with family and friends but I'm really not interested in the racing.
 
Blaze88 said:
And you do also since it seems to trigger you when people complain about Kyle.
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Yup, I know where it is, but not really 'triggered." If I was, I would be in a constant state of misery like many of those I have ignored.
 
BobbyFord said:
All of the changes are killing it for me. I'm going to two races next year to spend time with family and friends but I'm really not interested in the racing.
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Yes, there have been wayyyyy too many changes over the least 15 years, most of which were for the worse IMO. But as much as I miss the better days of the past, I've stuck around and still enjoy it
 
Blaze88 said:
I just know I would be scared to sign with KBM. I would hate to be driving for him and they ban Cup guys and then I'm out of a ride because it upsets him.
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Sign with some crappy team then ......... some team that don't have Kyle Busch to develop their trucks :p
 
StandOnIt said:
I think if I am reading this right this is pretty huge

WHAT ARE THE NEW GUIDELINES?

In 2018, any driver who scores Cup points will be barred from competing in the final eight races of the Xfinity and Truck Series in 2018 (that’s the regular-season finale and the playoffs).

It says ANY driver. That would cover a hot shot Xfinity driver that is going to cup. Teams can legally run 5 cars for a few races, Hendrick and Gibbs recently ran Elliott and Jones in a few cup races when they were full time in Xfinity. This rule would have excluded them from all of that, 8 races, playoffs, etc. yikes, doesn't look like much of that will be happening anymore.
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If they declared for Xfinity, they would be fine.
 
Blaze88 said:
I didn't exactly mean me as in me. I just meant it would be something a driver needs to think about.
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A driver would take a year in the best equipment. Easy. What Truck driver outside of Matt Crafton is looking for a long term deal?
 
Blaze88 said:
I not heard Brad mention shutting down his team? He might not be happy but at least he isn't making threats to take his ball home
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He doesn't have to threaten because Kyle is doing it for him. He is a blogger not a fighter you know.
 
Revman said:
A driver would take a year in the best equipment. Easy. What Truck driver outside of Matt Crafton is looking for a long term deal?
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Sometimes you might have to wait a bit longer than a year if there isn't room for you. I just know it would be risky to sign on with a team who could be gone because Kyle gets upset.
 
kyle18fan said:
So I can assume you are crappy until you prove otherwise :booya: I got a work buddy that runs a mod light ... he may let me make some laps in it soon
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Like I said I didn't mean me as in me. I meant if I was a driver it's something I would think about before signing with him. It's a great team, but a driver could be screwed by him shutting down on them.
 
Blaze88 said:
Sometimes you might have to wait a bit longer than a year if there isn't room for you. I just know it would be risky to sign on with a team who could be gone because Kyle gets upset.
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Kyle has a pretty good track record of developing talent. Worth the risk.
 
I thank God (the same one Coach likes) that I have had the opportunity to see our 2015 Champion Kyle Damn Busch win in all three series. Those days are going away. Pathetic. All of you dislikers---Get your asses to the track. I will be watching the stands now.
 
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