NASCAR considering radical changes to playoff system

Why let them race after they are eliminated from the championship? how hard would they race then?
 
sounds to me like they are trying to be like MLB or NFL in that the longer the events/ playoffs the more in tense and exciting. Good idea. However in MLB /NFL teams out of the playoff picture are obligated to give them their best when playing them. Start and play your starters for the most part is the norm. However in racing they don't race the contenders too hard in fear of wrecking them , I I understand that.

So its apples and oranges too me. Leave it alone or have a regular season cup champ say 30 races under a point system. Then have your playoffs. eliminate some each week or what ever.
Just my totally uneducated opinion.
 
So, yeah, I accidentally dozed off earlier today, and I'm hoping against hope that I'm actually still asleep and this is all just a bad dream that I'll eventually wake up from.
 
The fact every other sport has "Game 7" moments is a reason to not have them in NASCAR. NASCAR should trumpet that the champion must do well all season long. NASCAR should celebrate that a finish in February matters in November. Instead, NASCAR is trying to be like everybody else.
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Exactly. NASCAR had the most legitimate way of crowning a champion pre-2004 - right up there with the English Premier League in terms of simplicity and logic.
 
I have a feeling that this subject will cause it to be another loooong day of listening to the SiriusXM NASCAR Channel. :(
 
So last year, Tony Stewart would have made the Chase despite missing the last 5 "regular season" races and not being able to participate in the Chase. Guess he would have been an automatic 16th.
 
From the article: "
For years NASCAR has been drowning in its own expectations. After spending much of the early 2000s bragging about how hot it was, the sport cooled off. The problem is that NASCAR was never as hot as it claimed to be. It was popular, yes. It had rabid fans, no doubt. But it never had 75 million fans, as it so often claimed. It was never the second-most watched sport, as it liked to tout. So now after years of declines in attendance, TV ratings and the ever-sought, ever-elusive buzz, NASCAR is trying desperately to get back to where it was. The problem is, it was never there in the first place, and the sport's leaders fail to understand that getting there shouldn't be the goal anyway. NASCAR officials spend too much time concentrating on what will make NASCAR more popular and not enough time on what will make it better."

Just, perfect.
 
I think it was two years ago I said I wouldn't be surprised to see something cooked up where the points would be reset either after every Chase race or for the final race. Didn't think they'd do something like this, if they do.
 
The problem with Brian France's mentality is that "Game 7 moments" aren't extremely common in other sports as well. That's what makes them special, to be honest. The 1992 Hooters 500 was special because it came down to the very end. The 2011 Ford 400 was special because it came down to the final lap and an epic showdown for a championship. Moments like that are truly special.

I mean, while at it, let's just host the championship race at Talladega. :sarcasm:
 
So..... Dover, Talladega & Phoenix are the cutoff races where these groups of drivers are eliminated. I wonder if it will do anything for their attendance?

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Not real surprising but of the four hosts, three in favor and one undecided on this proposed change. Pretty much any anti sentiment about this issue is being shot down by the hosts. There's a definite agenda to push this idea on the listening public.
 
Sounds like a done deal too me. Cant wait too see the mess unfold at Homestead, its gonna take them years to clean this up and bring Nascar back into reality :(

Thanks mr France !!!! you really crapped your pants on this one
 
ToyYoda said:
So last year, Tony Stewart would have made the Chase despite missing the last 5 "regular season" races and not being able to participate in the Chase. Guess he would have been an automatic 16th.
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They probably would have added a 17th spot - the Tony Stewart Injury Clause. Just because.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
From the article: "
For years NASCAR has been drowning in its own expectations. After spending much of the early 2000s bragging about how hot it was, the sport cooled off. The problem is that NASCAR was never as hot as it claimed to be. It was popular, yes. It had rabid fans, no doubt. But it never had 75 million fans, as it so often claimed. It was never the second-most watched sport, as it liked to tout. So now after years of declines in attendance, TV ratings and the ever-sought, ever-elusive buzz, NASCAR is trying desperately to get back to where it was. The problem is, it was never there in the first place, and the sport's leaders fail to understand that getting there shouldn't be the goal anyway. NASCAR officials spend too much time concentrating on what will make NASCAR more popular and not enough time on what will make it better."

Just, perfect.
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Exactly. The biggest problems are the cars and tracks - not what is the best way to Jimmie-proof the championship.
 
Something to ponder...

If this system were in place last year, David Ragan, whose Talladega win was his only top-10 in the first 26 races, would have finished 15th in points. Tony Stewart, who missed 15 races, would have finished 16th in points. Brad Keselowski, who started every race, had a win, 9 top-5s, and 16 top-10s, would have finished 17th in points.

I think the flaws in this format are glaringly obvious.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
The problem with Brian France's mentality is that "Game 7 moments" aren't extremely common in other sports as well. That's what makes them special, to be honest. The 1992 Hooters 500 was special because it came down to the very end. The 2011 Ford 400 was special because it came down to the final lap and an epic showdown for a championship. Moments like that are truly special.

I mean, while at it, let's just host the championship race at Talladega. :sarcasm:
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I was thinking the EXACT same thing last night.. a lot of the time teams don't even make it to game 7 lol
 
Under the current proposal, Johnson would have finished third in last year’s Chase, losing the title to Matt Kenseth, who finished second at Homestead while Johnson ran ninth.

Of course we all know he would have ran the race differently. ;) Sorry, couldn't resist.

Good article on the Anti JJ Rule can be found here.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Under the current proposal, Johnson would have finished third in last year’s Chase, losing the title to Matt Kenseth, who finished second at Homestead while Johnson ran ninth.

Of course we all know he would have ran the race differently. ;) Sorry, couldn't resist.

Good article on the Anti JJ Rule can be found here.
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NASCAR would be perfectly happy if JJ never won another championship... can't dare have someone topple Earnhardt's seven championships....
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Under the current proposal, Johnson would have finished third in last year’s Chase, losing the title to Matt Kenseth, who finished second at Homestead while Johnson ran ninth.

Of course we all know he would have ran the race differently. ;) Sorry, couldn't resist.

Good article on the Anti JJ Rule can be found here.
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This wouldn't surprise me one bit. Petty and Earnhardt are the two biggest icons in the history of the sport, so Brian France may be getting nervous that Johnson will tie and eventually surpass their 7 championships. And, as mentioned in the article, Homestead isn't one of Jimmie's better tracks. I wonder if this change would be considered if Kenseth had won the championship last year?
 
Playoffs don't work in racing, that's what heat races are for.

I suppose letting most of the competitive teams in the Chase will reduce the chance of last year's fiasco.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
From the article: "
For years NASCAR has been drowning in its own expectations. After spending much of the early 2000s bragging about how hot it was, the sport cooled off. The problem is that NASCAR was never as hot as it claimed to be. It was popular, yes. It had rabid fans, no doubt. But it never had 75 million fans, as it so often claimed. It was never the second-most watched sport, as it liked to tout. So now after years of declines in attendance, TV ratings and the ever-sought, ever-elusive buzz, NASCAR is trying desperately to get back to where it was. The problem is, it was never there in the first place, and the sport's leaders fail to understand that getting there shouldn't be the goal anyway. NASCAR officials spend too much time concentrating on what will make NASCAR more popular and not enough time on what will make it better."

Just, perfect.
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Yep in other words they concentrate too much on making more money than making the racing better.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
NASCAR would be perfectly happy if JJ never won another championship... can't dare have someone topple Earnhardt's seven championships....
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Jimmie Johnson is going to win two more, so NASCAR and all the haters should just get used to the idea of 8 time Champion Jimmie Johnson.
 
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