NASCAR considering radical changes to playoff system

I think part of being a great driver/team is adapting to the changes and using it to your advantage... is it any wonder the 48 team has won in so many different formats? These rule changes wont change the drivers... its not going to change the fact that when theres 20 laps to go and the guy in 2nd is closing in it's exciting.
 
I think we are getting all worked up over nothing anyway, the whole deal is so damned dumb that its not going to happen anyway. Somebody with a few live brain cells will put the binders on this bs.
 
I probably take it too seriously but..

They race for championships, earned with points. That's how you properly race for a championship.

'not just a game' my ass.

I like points. Not a W-L record.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
I understand that. I just know that if its going to happen theres nothing I can do about it. Im going to try to look at the things I like about it instead of the things I don't. I think it will make for more excitement through the season... and like I said earlier.. if theres cars on track doing laps, making passes and fighting for the win Im satisfied.. that's really what its all about to me... I'd rather enjoy the on track action than worry about the points system... after all.. the best drivers are going to win no matter what the points system is. I'm wondering if they're going to put a limit on how many times teams can test at Homestead lol
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Spoken like a true casual fan.

Not saying that you are but you can tell you're new at this.

Its all about the grit and grind of the season.
 
reck said:
Any changes they make wont impact the likes of Joey. He's not a championship caliber driver.
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:XXROFL: Maybe not.. yet... but his team damn sure is championship calibre... after all how often is there a 23 year old championship calibre driver? e definitely has championship potential... it's only a matter of time... he'll get at least one in his career.
 
reck said:
Any changes they make wont impact the likes of Joey. He's not a championship caliber driver.
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reck said:
Spoken like a true casual fan.

Not saying that you are but you can tell you're new at this.

Its all about the grit and grind of the season.
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I get that... Im just not going to let myself get all worked up over this... I love the championship implications of any race... I really only see this making it more exciting until Homestead when someone finds a way to use the system and steals a championship and they change the rules again next year.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
:XXROFL: Maybe not.. yet... but his team damn sure is championship calibre... after all how often is there a 23 year old championship calibre driver? e definitely has championship potential... it's only a matter of time... he'll get at least one in his career.
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Well he ain't no Jeff... Nevermind.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
is it any wonder the 48 team has won in so many different formats?
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Many different formats? The chase itself hasn't change since its inception. They keep shuffling the point system and how many drivers are allowed in, nothing more.

You can still win the championship by having flawless races in the chase which is where the 48 excels at.
 
The funny thing
reck said:
Many different formats? The chase itself hasn't change since its inception. They keep shuffling the point system and how many drivers are allowed in, nothing more.

You can still win the championship by having flawless races in the chase which is where the 48 excels at.
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Not just points formats... parts/rules changes, car changes,etc..
 
^Or in other words, as long as there are 10 races to determine a champion, the format doesn't really change.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
I think part of being a great driver/team is adapting to the changes and using it to your advantage... is it any wonder the 48 team has won in so many different formats? These rule changes wont change the drivers... its not going to change the fact that when theres 20 laps to go and the guy in 2nd is closing in it's exciting.
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I've reread all of your contrary posts on this and your comments make me think that your trolling for arguments again. So I'm done with this.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Either way the cream will rise to the top in any system.
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Jeff Gordon, Carl Edwards, Denny Hamlin, Kevin Harvick would all disagree.

What you're saying is that basically Jimmie is the only "cream" that rises in series since he's being the only one to win on multiple formarts. And Tony of course.
 
Honestly I think theres many faults with this idea... but like I said.. why let it get to you... its going to make the races better.. and the championship not... or maybe it will... who knows... the only thing I can tell tell you I know for sure... Is that they'll change the rules again next year when the 214 champion is someone that only won two races and had 25 finishes of 20th or worse.
 
reck said:
Jeff Gordon, Carl Edwards, Denny Hamlin, Kevin Harvick would all disagree.

What you're saying is that basically Jimmie is the only "cream" that rises in series since he's being the only one to win on multiple formarts. And Tony of course.
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Im not talking about just the champions.. but the best drivers have all finished in the top 5 at least every year. The top 5 is the cream...
 
reck said:
That's not how you determine cream rising to the top.
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I just mean that no matter how the points go.. ur gona have the same 5 or so guys fighting for the cup every year.. is it any wonder we always see the same guys in the chase for the most part?
 
That's because top drivers at the Cup level are far and in between.

There is currently a drought of top prospects in NASCAR so of course you're going to see the same good old guys. They basically got no competion out there.

Guys like Larson, Dillon and so on could change that.
 
reck said:
That's because top drivers at the Cup level are far and in between.

There is currently a drought of top prospects in NASCAR so of course you're going to see the same good old guys. They basically got no competion out there.

Guys like Larson, Dillon and so on could change that.
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My point is that the points system isn't going to change the winners.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
I really only see this making it more exciting until Homestead when someone finds a way to use the system and steals a championship and they change the rules again next year.
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I honestly have no idea how anyone can see it like this. It's not even racing at this point. Knowing it's all a bunch of fake, phony-ass bull**** kills all of the passion and joy about it.
 
In addition to expanding the Chase field from 12 to 16 drivers, a win in the season’s first 26 races would virtually ensure a driver entry into the championship Chase. If there were more than 16 winners, the 16 with the most wins and highest in points would gain entry.


So if a Harvick had already won a race and he was leading Kurt to the line on the last lap he'd naturally slow to let Kurt by to get the win so he could make the Chase. The same team manipulation we saw last year. Am I missing something?


Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/20...-points-chase.html#.UtsCAdI5S1t#storylink=cpy
 
Clutch said:
In addition to expanding the Chase field from 12 to 16 drivers, a win in the season’s first 26 races would virtually ensure a driver entry into the championship Chase. If there were more than 16 winners, the 16 with the most wins and highest in points would gain entry.


So if a Harvick had already won a race and he was leading Kurt to the line on the last lap he'd naturally slow to let Kurt by to get the win so he could make the Chase. The same team manipulation we saw last year. Am I missing something?


Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/20...-points-chase.html#.UtsCAdI5S1t#storylink=cpy
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As most of us have been saying about this from the start, a Huge can of worms.
 
FLRacingFan said:
The regular season would really become more meaningless than the NBA's - which I thought was impossible. Brian always finds a way.
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Indeed. Too much coasting.

That is why I'm an advocate for shortening the season to at least 62 games. Watching the Spurs play (My team) play in the early months gets tedious because they dont take it seriously until like April.
 
NASCAR has been letting the fans vote on lots of things lately, such as the Sprint Unlimited format. I think they ought to let fans vote on the championship format, too.

- Adopt the chase "elimination" idea
- Keep the chase the way it is
- Eliminate the chase

Maybe then they will see how far out of touch they are with their fan base.
 
If this really does happen, I would love to see a bunch of drivers boycott the Daytona 500. With how worthless races leading up to the chase would be, drivers wouldn't be missing out on much anyway. I know there was some boycott that failed in the past, but this is several decades later.
 
I'm sure Nascar could prevent any organized boycotts, but if the penalty for finishing last is low enough, I can see some drivers having very convenient migraines that keep them out of races they feel are dangerous.
 
PeopleAreStrange said:
If this really does happen, I would love to see a bunch of drivers boycott the Daytona 500. With how worthless races leading up to the chase would be, drivers wouldn't be missing out on much anyway. I know there was some boycott that failed in the past, but this is several decades later.
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Why would they boycott?
 
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