NASCAR considers turning down the volume on its cars

If you make the personal choice to attend a nascar race and then complain about the noise level of the race cars with 750HP, you are an idiot.

I can respect that opinion, not growing up in a racing fan family I wasn't really sure what to expect. My first live racing experience was the 2016 Kansas truck race.

It wasn't the social event we were anticipating, conversing with my buddies or others around us was impossible. Sure it was cool to hear them wind out down the front stretch when the start but it's to frikin much for the entirety of the race for me. I don't want them to be quiet but it's obnoxious.

If you're not an actual fan who's crazy about racing I don't see much reason to go to the track, there's no way to learn anything about the sport there because you can't ask questions to anyone.
 
I can respect that opinion, not growing up in a racing fan family I wasn't really sure what to expect. My first live racing experience was the 2016 Kansas truck race.

It wasn't the social event we were anticipating, conversing with my buddies or others around us was impossible. Sure it was cool to hear them wind out down the front stretch when the start but it's to frikin much for the entirety of the race for me. I don't want them to be quiet but it's obnoxious.

If you're not an actual fan who's crazy about racing I don't see much reason to go to the track, there's no way to learn anything about the sport there because you can't ask questions to anyone.
if you don't get the first time. it might knot be for you.
 
This debate is dumb as ****. Imagine this statement:


"The concert was good, but I couldn't converse with my friends the whole show!... I mean loud music is cool but this was quite obnoxious. Why are their amps and speakers SO BIG?!!!"
 
Another poster mentioned putting the exhaust exit back on the left side. I guarantee you that takes a lot of the bite away from the noise. The amplification off the wall all day probably doesn't help matters. These cars don't need fuggin baffles.
 
Another poster mentioned putting the exhaust exit back on the left side. I guarantee you that takes a lot of the bite away from the noise. The amplification off the wall all day probably doesn't help matters. These cars don't need fuggin baffles.
Puts the system directly under the driver.

That wouldn't fly, I'm afraid.
 
I'll make this simple when it comes to quieting the cars down.....NO ****** WAY!!!!!! bull****!
 
I didn't know that. How long ago?
I don't know exactly when to when or why they switched sides but here's a couple examples/sweet pictures.

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I found something about switching sides but it wasn't dated. Talked about removing heat stress on the driver and placing the exhaust opposite pit wall. Makes sense.

Learn something new every day.
 
I found something about switching sides but it wasn't dated. Talked about removing heat stress on the driver and placing the exhaust opposite pit wall. Makes sense.

Learn something new every day.

Time for Steve Tirechanger and Guy Wheeldood to compromise for teh fans.
 
This debate is dumb as ****. Imagine this statement:


"The concert was good, but I couldn't converse with my friends the whole show!... I mean loud music is cool but this was quite obnoxious. Why are their amps and speakers SO BIG?!!!"
That's a poor analogy. A concert is specifically about the music. Amps and speakers have to be large so the people in the cheap seats can hear. Race cars don't HAVE to be loud to be fast.
 
You guys are great. Truly.

B!tch about low attendance but shame on anyone who didn't like exactly what was offered.

I understand what you are saying as it is important for you to be able to converse with your friends while at a Nascar event and if that is important for many people and they would attend races if they were quieter then it should be done.

I think where the disconnect comes in for many of us is that we really like the sound the V8 engine produces and noise and racing are 2 peas in a pod. Another thing is I believe that conversing with our friends during sporting events, races, movies, concerts, high school plays, the workplace or watching TV is nowhere near a top priority. When I am at an event I want to be engaged in the event and not have people bugging me while the event is on. If people want to speak with me they can do so at an intermission or after the event or we can go out to dinner or for coffee and chat in a setting that is more conducive to conversation.
 
That's a poor analogy. A concert is specifically about the music. Amps and speakers have to be large so the people in the cheap seats can hear. Race cars don't HAVE to be loud to be fast.

I can understand race cars being made quieter if a health problem exists for drivers, team members and fans or if a majority of people would just prefer it that way. I think that what makes many of incredulous about some of the initiatives Nascar has brought forth or those in consideration is where did they come from? Brian France is telling us that the changes being made in Nascar are what the fans want but in truth most of us have not even thought of any of them.
 
Well, none this year. I need to find a new group of guys to go with as two of the four that went last year won't go back.

Is the primary reason they won't go back due to the noise and inability to converse during the race or are there other factors too?
 
I can respect that opinion, not growing up in a racing fan family I wasn't really sure what to expect. My first live racing experience was the 2016 Kansas truck race.

It wasn't the social event we were anticipating, conversing with my buddies or others around us was impossible. Sure it was cool to hear them wind out down the front stretch when the start but it's to frikin much for the entirety of the race for me. I don't want them to be quiet but it's obnoxious.

If you're not an actual fan who's crazy about racing I don't see much reason to go to the track, there's no way to learn anything about the sport there because you can't ask questions to anyone.
I'm curious the age range of the group you were with.
IMO, the social event occurs during tailgating, while attending trackside shows and events, while perusing the vendor area, during pre and post race festivities. The other part is the race.
My friends and I have never really had any problem communicating while the cars are on the track.
 
IMO, the social event occurs during tailgating, while attending trackside shows and events, while perusing the vendor area, during pre and post race festivities. The other part is the race.
My friends and I have never really had any problem communicating while the cars are on the track.
^ This..... exactly.
 
I'm curious the age range of the group you were with.
IMO, the social event occurs during tailgating, while attending trackside shows and events, while perusing the vendor area, during pre and post race festivities. The other part is the race.
My friends and I have never really had any problem communicating while the cars are on the track.

Yeah, the idea of of talking with your buddies during a race is a new one on me as it isn't something I have thought of. I want to be able to concentrate on the race and enjoy it and I will debrief with my buddies later.
 
Yeah, the idea of of talking with your buddies during a race is a new one on me as it isn't something I have thought of. I want to be able to concentrate on the race and enjoy it and I will debrief with my buddies later.
I'd rather talk about what's happening on lap 25 while it's going on and I still remember it.

Maybe you haven't thought of it because it's less practical than it could be.
 
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Yeah I know. I found it wasn't that much more by the time I added up the grandstand ticket, a pit pass, food and drinks. But, if you aren't paying for all that, it is a lot of difference... multiplied by the number of people you are paying for. It is a nice experience if sometime you find yourself by yourself.
 
I don't know exactly when to when or why they switched sides but here's a couple examples/sweet pictures.

They talked about this a couple of times during one of the races. They don't want the hot exhaust near the re-fueling door/gas man. This has caused fires in the past so they moved it to the other side of the car.
 
They talked about this a couple of times during one of the races. They don't want the hot exhaust near the re-fueling door/gas man. This has caused fires in the past so they moved it to the other side of the car.

I don't if it is applicable with the helmets today but they also has some drivers suffer from the fumes.. carbon monoxide poisoning. Or maybe it isn't applicable with the fuel today.
 
Been thinkin what a Top Fuel Dragster would sound like with mufflers.
Anyone who has ever been to a NHRA event, can attest to the fact that TV cannot do it justice. It is, essentially, a barely controlled explosion of power that rattles your chest and shakes your fillings. It is an AWESOME display of raw power and human ingenuity. I doubt many would attend the races if it were an electric drag race (which may be as fast or faster.)
 
Been thinkin what a Top Fuel Dragster would sound like with mufflers.

The largest breaking of wind ever.


Well, none this year. I need to find a new group of guys to go with as two of the four that went last year won't go back.

Cruise it by yourself. It really is a blast cruising in and interacting with other fans during your day or weekend. I know it's funny given this thread, but you won't have a problem socializing.


Just curious, what tracks have you been going to?



That's a poor analogy. A concert is specifically about the music. Amps and speakers have to be large so the people in the cheap seats can hear. Race cars don't HAVE to be loud to be fast.

The noise is the music, maaaaaaaaan. It's not just about what you hear, it's about what you feel. I'd prefer we keep them bleachers shaking. Lol.
 
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