NASCAR's most underrated drivers.

Madman88 said:
The team won back to back Championships in what is now the Monster Energy Cup Series in 2003 and 2004, kurt bush and Matt.k.

Roush Racing set a NASCAR record by putting all five of its race teams in the Chase
for the Nextel Cup in 2005

Biffle drive for Roush from 2003 - 2016, they were most definitely top tier during Biff's early tenure.
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I still don’t think they were top tier. They did have some really good drivers at the time.
 
I think sterling marlin is also highly under appreciated!

He would have been the 2002 Cup champion. Really not much debate about that... then he got hurt and sidelined with that Kansas wreck. Great wheelman!
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Clear winner here
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Absolute unit.
 
Madman88 said:
The team won back to back Championships in what is now the Monster Energy Cup Series in 2003 and 2004, kurt bush and Matt.k.

Roush Racing set a NASCAR record by putting all five of its race teams in the Chase
for the Nextel Cup in 2005

Biffle drive for Roush from 2003 - 2016, they were most definitely top tier during Biff's early tenure.
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he wasn't watching in those years. BTW that was also back when only 10 cars go into the chase as well. half the cars in the whole deal were roush cars. If today half the playoffs were one organization, I am pretty sure they would be considered top tier. Its very hard for a company to have all its cars running well enough to be in the top 10.
 
hidesert cowboy said:
he wasn't watching in those years. BTW that was also back when only 10 cars go into the chase as well. half the cars in the whole deal were roush cars. If today half the playoffs were one organization, I am pretty sure they would be considered top tier. Its very hard for a company to have all its cars running well enough to be in the top 10.
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Who wasn’t watching in those years?
 
JohnHill said:
I think sterling marlin is also highly under appreciated!

He would have been the 2002 Cup champion. Really not much debate about that... then he got hurt and sidelined with that Kansas wreck. Great wheelman!
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There's plenty of debate. He was 5th in points when he got injured
 
BobbyFord said:
FFS
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Maybe he was overrated...
But the kid was a great in Xfinity....I loved to watch him.
You are well aware how important communication with CC/Driver is.... Just like Logano who promised much but delivered little during his 4 years at JGR ....Atwood didn't receive the match he needed during his 2 years with Evernham....seems a million years ago now
 
BobbyFord said:
I still don’t think they were top tier. They did have some really good drivers at the time.
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Boy, I NEVER saw it that way at all. I remember being GENUINELY concerned for a good while that Roush was going to completely dominate NASCAR. One thing I WAS told by a couple of guys that went to work there was that Jack was kind of cheap with salaries, including drivers, and that it wasn't most of the guys "dream job". They said everybody really wanted to go work for Hendrick or JGR. I don't think the team was ever the same after Jack sold part of the team to Henry.
 
Formerjackman said:
Boy, I NEVER saw it that way at all. I remember being GENUINELY concerned for a good while that Roush was going to completely dominate NASCAR. One thing I WAS told by a couple of guys that went to work there was that Jack was kind of cheap with salaries, including drivers, and that it wasn't most of the guys "dream job". They said everybody really wanted to go work for Hendrick or JGR. I don't think the team was ever the same after Jack sold part of the team to Henry.
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I agree, Roush was a power house in the early 2000s. He made guys like Kenseth, Edwards, Kurt Bush and others into superstars.
 
Jimmie Johnson. No ****.

For all of the success the man has had in his career, people still put qualifiers on his achievements as if he's some slouch.

7x Champ BUT he had the Chase Format. 83 wins BUT he had Chad Knaus. He's just the product of a great organization. :bsflag:
 
DSquad48 said:
Jimmie Johnson. No sh!t.

For all of the success the man has had in his career, people still put qualifiers on his achievements as if he's some slouch.

7x Champ BUT he had the Chase Format. 83 wins BUT he had Chad Knaus. He's just the product of a great organization. :bsflag:
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yeah, the same people are like Dale E. was just a bully who only won cause he wrecked people. Race um straight up and he'd of lost a lot of those.

:puffin::puffin::puffin:
 
Not sure if Kenny Schrader and Neal Bonnett were underrated.... Maybe Harry Gant too. I think they were. I know the other drivers respected them.
 
JohnHill said:
Someone else threw it out there as well, but I’ve thought about this over the years...

I’m highly impressed with what Ricky Rudd did in his career. I honestly think his name should be dropped around a lot more.

I give him credit for pulling off the ‘gutsy-ist’ Drive in my opinion... when he did what he does and roughed out that hot afternoon in martinsville to win that race after they splashed him with hot water in the pits too... dude was getting oxygen in victory lane! That’s a moment right there.

Also, didn’t he tape his eye lids open, to run a race... after he got banged up in a wreck?!
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Not sure of the year, but YES to eyelids taped open
Happened in Daytona

https://www.foxsports.com/nascar/story/countdown-to-daytona-a-salute-to-tough-guy-ricky-rudd-013117
 
AuzGrams said:
Kept Front Row Motorsports 34 in the top 35 of owner points for all of 2009 which was huge for that team.
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That he did. That's the last year I went to Martinsville or any Nascar race for that matter. He had a pretty good run going and Elliott Sadler spun him out to put him a lap down. At least I got to see him win there live in 1999. Unforgettable moment for me.
 
DSquad48 said:
Jimmie Johnson. No sh!t.

For all of the success the man has had in his career, people still put qualifiers on his achievements as if he's some slouch.

7x Champ BUT he had the Chase Format. 83 wins BUT he had Chad Knaus. He's just the product of a great organization. :bsflag:
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Every great athlete/driver has haters. Don’t think that makes them underrated. Unless you think Lewis Hamilton is underrated as well. I agree with Andy that Biffle is underrated, he got run out of the sport when he still has some driving ability and was a loose wheel while leading at Texas from being the first driver with championships in all 3 series.


Some others:

JPM (has won in every top racing series, came oh so close many times on ovals in Cup)

Truex (a champion that people actually do try to negate his accomplishments, many in this board)

Vickers (last cup driver to win on part time schedule, last win for MWR, also made the chase and won with RBR. If he didn’t have blood clots I think he’d still be around.)
 
dirtfan said:
As a long-time Roush fan, I completely agree
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When you built the teams, won in everything you raced, and are the boss/owner, you’re allowed to do that. He was the most hands on owner in the garage, actual team member while he was winning. Hendrick, Gibbs, Childress, Penske, and almost everyone else outside driver owners don’t lay a hand on the car, engine, or race strategy. Gotta respect what he’s done.

Wouldn’t fly with him though....
 
JerryF said:
Not sure if Kenny Schrader and Neal Bonnett were underrated.... Maybe Harry Gant too. I think they were. I know the other drivers respected them.
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Gant....definitely. Heck he didn’t make it to Cup until he was 40 or something did he?
 
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